85% der Amsterdam -Frauen vermeiden bestimmte Teile der Stadt für Sicherheit
https://nltimes.nl/2025/09/09/85-amsterdam-women-avoid-certain-parts-city-safety
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85% der Amsterdam -Frauen vermeiden bestimmte Teile der Stadt für Sicherheit
https://nltimes.nl/2025/09/09/85-amsterdam-women-avoid-certain-parts-city-safety
Von Background_Age_852
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no one should feel unsafe intheir own city
I wonder what has changed in recent years to make this the new norm.
So much for far right, law and order parties like the PVV fixing any of this, how’s that’s blown up government going?
That’s a pretty significant number, definitely something worth paying attention to.
Kinda feels weird hearing stuff like this. I never felt afraid to walk around at night since i was 13, and neither did my parents worry. I wonder how much things have changed in Europe as a whole.
Men too
Please remember surely nothing has changed and it’d be a huge shame if we noticed something.
>Men included, around 70 percent of Amsterdammers have areas they consider dangerous.
So that would be about 55% of men. While the gender disparity shouldn’t be overlooked, this is a problem affecting everyone.
certain parts of any city have always been avoided everywhere in the world and always will be. it shouldnt be that way, but to which magical part of history are you referring? i am from zagreb, an eastern european capital ranked quite consistently as the safest capital of EU, and certain aprts of the city are to be avoided, and always were to be avoided (looking at you dubrava/pescenica)
Avoiding certain parts of the city… Does that mean they avoid the infrastructure there (bulidings, streets,…)? Is the infrastrucutre there dangerous?
Or do they avoid ppl there? Is it ok to avoid the same ppl in other parts of the city? Are we speaking about racism here???
„City parks were most often mentioned, specifically Vondelpark, Sarphatipark, and Oosterpark. “You have less of an overview there, and there are fewer people around,” one respondent said about going to a park at night. “If something happens, you have less chance of getting to a safe place or of being able to talk to someone. Then I do feel like something could happen.”“ – What exactly could happen? Touching a thorny or poisonos plant? Biting dogs? Snakes? Falling into a hole in the ground???
What is meant by „something“??? Can anybody clarify?
These numbers don’t really mean anything without proper comparators.
Considering 85% of women and 70% of people feel unsafe, it should be reasonable to assume that means 55% of men feel unsafe too.
So now we know that both there is a large gender gap where women feel more unsafe than men and that there are areas where the majority of people feel unsafe.
Next we need to see how that stacks up with other comparable cities, both in and out of the country.
Without proper comparisons, it feels like the article is less for informing and more for alarming.
I also don’t think it’s good to jump to conclusions about the cause when the article doesn’t say any itself, nor does it even specify which areas people feel unsafe in.
But however direct the Dutch may be, pointing to what has changed is taboo. When once again a woman is harassed, the suspects are simplified to “youths on fatbikes”. National governmental news organisation omits descriptions that regional newspapers do write down. Even though there for sure may be other causes at the same time, that-what-shall-not-be-named is only named by those who have personal security.
#*85% of Amsterdam women avoid certain parts of the city for safety*
~~De Telegraaf, August 1893~~ Courante uyt Italien, Duytslandt, &c., 1663
Ask the engineers and the doctors they have welcomed in with big signs to accompany them…oh, wait…
Wouldn’t this be common in most cities? Are there places where women wouldn’t avoid walking through unlit parks in the middle of the night in the worst part of the city?
mena
Nothing new, the mentioned areas are well known places for…. less desirable people to hangout. And it’s not only women, everyone has their thoughts about walking there alone.
It’s mainly drugs and everything connected to it, from homeless addicts to youth dealing and everything in between.
That seems like bait. Certain countries or cities might be more dangerous now and this wouldn’t be an indicator for it.
I can talk only for Spain but I assume in ither countries there have been always parts with more criminality that most of the people in the city used to avoid. You’ll be lying to yourselves thinking 20 years ago every street was rainbows and happiness
No shit, they feel unsafe when they go to areas that are used to sell drugs. Drugs, btw, the stats show that the native population buys in mass, a lot more than immigrant kids. You can’t finance these people and then complain about why they are in your city, making it unsafe.
Again, people, crime is down countrywide, with a 60% total. The country has never been as safe as it is today.
Yes, if you go to a specific area where the drug dealers are working in the city with the most tourists who come here because of drugs, I understand you feel unsafe, but nobody is forcing you to do that.
Imported problem lol
Alright, I’ll ask. Which parts & why? Unsafe is a bit open to interpretation. I personally loathe the canals, bloody death traps when you’re wasted foreigner
Doesn’t everyone avoid certain parts of every city? The parts where people go if they want drugs, prostitution, or a fight?
I know the shitty parts of my city to avoid.
> Half of the respondents said they experienced something intimidating or scary on the street, ranging from verbal abuse and catcalling to threats and even physical assault. **Yet 91 percent did not report the incident to the police.**
well it’s kind of hard to fix things if you don’t report them. the alternative is to have cameras everywhere or a police state with military every 200 meters. is this what you are looking for ? i don’t
I mean, this pretty much goes for all major cities.
Here in Brussels, cops avoid certain parts of the city for safety. But I can’t say why because I’ll get in trouble.
That would be probably true in any city, at any moment of history.
What is this magical city who does not have dangerous parts I wonder, I have yet to hear about one.