Low wages make people move to lower cost of living states.
Nebuli2 on
This map would be a lot more useful if it were net migration per capita.
Dont_Ban_Me_Bros on
It also emphasizes the need to eliminate gerrymandering.
Conscious-Quarter423 on
Democrats, in general, simply must permit more housing to be built in their states. Especially NY, NJ, CO, MA, CA, OR, and WA.
It’s killing them politically and costing them electoral votes and House seats.
StickFigureFan on
All those people moving to Florida that will have to move again when the state is underwater
AbueloOdin on
This is why raw maps have a specific purpose. Like…I’m not sure Nebraska has 4m people to lose. Actually… checks wikipedia… yeah. Nebraska only has 2m. So it lost a solid 10% of it’s population over the course of 30 years? And is light red?
I mean, if you’re trying to figure out where to sell moving truck stuff, this is a good way to picture the size of the market.
Ciarrai_IRL on
Illinois is now a coastal state? Hmm. Cool?
Soggy_Spinach_7503 on
California’s population has increased over 8 million since 1991.
What? Seems pretty useless to have all the Democrats lumped into five states. Spread freedom, move out.
RebelStrategist on
Could this be attributed to boomers retiring and moving south?
thegoatmenace on
its cost of living, its always cost of living.
CharlieParkour on
Back in 1992, I used to say Illinois‘ greatest export was its people.
KeyofE on
“Coastal states like… Illinois.” The coast of Lake Michigan?
hankmaka on
Absolutely baffles me that the great lakes region can’t retain people.
chocolatestealth on
I understand that the data here is meant to capture a full decade, but I’d like to see a cutoff of 2019 instead of 2021. We know that remote work caused *a lot* of people to shuffle around in 2020 and 2021, many of whom decided to „undo“ their decision in the following years.
Ok-disaster2022 on
Populations migrate where there’s jobs. Jobs migrate where there less regulation and they can treat employees like wage slaves.
Uniform laws that protector workers over businesses across the country would be better.
emptybagofdicks on
Calling Illinois a coastal state is definitely a choice
ricochet48 on
People like lower taxes, who would have thought.
BrupieD on
This is a strange choice to focus on housing but only include domestic migration not *all* migration.
For instance Minnesota has a net population loss of ~43.82k between 1991 – 2021 but the state’s population increased by ~1.5 *million* during the same time. Census lists MN population as 4,375,099 in 1990 and 5,706,494 in 2020. The birth rate is nowhere near great enough to account for that population increase so it could only be a net *positive* migration rate. Per your chart, Minnesota attracts far more international migration than domestic migration. Don’t those people need housing too?
maxpowers6969 on
The reason this map gave is not correct. Cost plays into why people are moving, but crime and tax rates are just as big of reasons.
SpaceManJoe316 on
I wonder at what point does the blue migration start flipping seats?
ContinuedContagion on
Pfft, you can keep Florida and Texas.
SteveBored on
What what what. How can this be? You mean to tell me reddit isnt representative of America and that people actually want to move south?
Well I am shocked
e430doug on
Can we stop including timelines that include the pandemic? It was a meaningless outlier.
dumbledorky on
I don’t see how a map that excludes births and international immigration is in any way useful to showcase the need for housing development. Immigrants and people born after 1991 need housing too…
Reasonable-Meal-7684 on
Huh ?
1991: 18,029,532
2021: 19,848,276
New York’s population grew by over 1.8 million people between 1991 and 2021.
Tutor_Worldly on
Great looking map, but a 30 year window is just too many sea changes to account for.
Could we get a version of this from the post Covid era forward? Spring 2021 to now?
Theveryberrybest on
Hawaii is surprising considering that the ability to move is much harder
perplexedparallax on
I think this is outdated. Covid changed a lot.
Fistbite on
Uh oh, you kicked the hornet’s nest OP by posting a map on Reddit that makes blue states look bad
ImissCliff1986 on
Illinois is coastal state?
mizzb00bz on
This map is missing a lot of context because I live in CT and we are getting in more New Yorkers than we are getting locals moving away.
mcjohnson415 on
The California numbers do not appear to be correct. This maps would also be much more useful if it showed percentage increase or decrease not just raw exit numbers.
MasChingonNoHay on
As a Californian, I love seeing that -4.64M. Hopefully it’s all MAGATs
Dobber5099 on
Florida is full. Sorry guys.
Lux-xxv on
And it’s harder in red States that are Growing because we don’t have laws and programs to help with affordable housing. In Montana rich folks keep driving up the housing market while the poor who wanna move here have a hard time getting housing. And then the uneducated folks who get manipulated by the rich blame California instead of the rich who come from all over jr country like Texas and such.
Daruuk on
2021 is quite a while ago. especially since COVID accelerated emigration from Blue states.
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Migration data from the IRS as published at [https://heat.aeihousingcenter.org/toolkit/migration_tableau](https://heat.aeihousingcenter.org/toolkit/migration_tableau)
Datawrapper used to make map.
Low wages make people move to lower cost of living states.
This map would be a lot more useful if it were net migration per capita.
It also emphasizes the need to eliminate gerrymandering.
Democrats, in general, simply must permit more housing to be built in their states. Especially NY, NJ, CO, MA, CA, OR, and WA.
It’s killing them politically and costing them electoral votes and House seats.
All those people moving to Florida that will have to move again when the state is underwater
This is why raw maps have a specific purpose. Like…I’m not sure Nebraska has 4m people to lose. Actually… checks wikipedia… yeah. Nebraska only has 2m. So it lost a solid 10% of it’s population over the course of 30 years? And is light red?
I mean, if you’re trying to figure out where to sell moving truck stuff, this is a good way to picture the size of the market.
Illinois is now a coastal state? Hmm. Cool?
California’s population has increased over 8 million since 1991.
But we absolutely must build more housing.
[https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CAPOP](https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CAPOP)
What? Seems pretty useless to have all the Democrats lumped into five states. Spread freedom, move out.
Could this be attributed to boomers retiring and moving south?
its cost of living, its always cost of living.
Back in 1992, I used to say Illinois‘ greatest export was its people.
“Coastal states like… Illinois.” The coast of Lake Michigan?
Absolutely baffles me that the great lakes region can’t retain people.
I understand that the data here is meant to capture a full decade, but I’d like to see a cutoff of 2019 instead of 2021. We know that remote work caused *a lot* of people to shuffle around in 2020 and 2021, many of whom decided to „undo“ their decision in the following years.
Populations migrate where there’s jobs. Jobs migrate where there less regulation and they can treat employees like wage slaves.
Uniform laws that protector workers over businesses across the country would be better.
Calling Illinois a coastal state is definitely a choice
People like lower taxes, who would have thought.
This is a strange choice to focus on housing but only include domestic migration not *all* migration.
For instance Minnesota has a net population loss of ~43.82k between 1991 – 2021 but the state’s population increased by ~1.5 *million* during the same time. Census lists MN population as 4,375,099 in 1990 and 5,706,494 in 2020. The birth rate is nowhere near great enough to account for that population increase so it could only be a net *positive* migration rate. Per your chart, Minnesota attracts far more international migration than domestic migration. Don’t those people need housing too?
The reason this map gave is not correct. Cost plays into why people are moving, but crime and tax rates are just as big of reasons.
I wonder at what point does the blue migration start flipping seats?
Pfft, you can keep Florida and Texas.
What what what. How can this be? You mean to tell me reddit isnt representative of America and that people actually want to move south?
Well I am shocked
Can we stop including timelines that include the pandemic? It was a meaningless outlier.
I don’t see how a map that excludes births and international immigration is in any way useful to showcase the need for housing development. Immigrants and people born after 1991 need housing too…
Huh ?
1991: 18,029,532
2021: 19,848,276
New York’s population grew by over 1.8 million people between 1991 and 2021.
Great looking map, but a 30 year window is just too many sea changes to account for.
Could we get a version of this from the post Covid era forward? Spring 2021 to now?
Hawaii is surprising considering that the ability to move is much harder
I think this is outdated. Covid changed a lot.
Uh oh, you kicked the hornet’s nest OP by posting a map on Reddit that makes blue states look bad
Illinois is coastal state?
This map is missing a lot of context because I live in CT and we are getting in more New Yorkers than we are getting locals moving away.
The California numbers do not appear to be correct. This maps would also be much more useful if it showed percentage increase or decrease not just raw exit numbers.
As a Californian, I love seeing that -4.64M. Hopefully it’s all MAGATs
Florida is full. Sorry guys.
And it’s harder in red States that are Growing because we don’t have laws and programs to help with affordable housing. In Montana rich folks keep driving up the housing market while the poor who wanna move here have a hard time getting housing. And then the uneducated folks who get manipulated by the rich blame California instead of the rich who come from all over jr country like Texas and such.
2021 is quite a while ago. especially since COVID accelerated emigration from Blue states.
Washington, Oregon, and New Mexico are green on this map, but [had a negative net migration from 2020-2024](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_net_migration).