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    1. >Deevers, a [far-right](https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/post/dusty-deevers-claims-kamala-harris-voters-are-wicked-murderous-people)[ pastor](https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/dusty-deevers-says-scotus-will-stand-god-obergefell-ruling) and [unabashed Christian nationalist](https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/oklahoma-state-sen-dusty-deevers-provides-a-case-study-in-christian-nationalism/) who wants to [abolish abortion](https://x.com/RightWingWatch/status/1757097871600451686), [ban no-fault divorce](https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/christian-nationalist-pastor-dusty-deevers-is-running-for-a-seat-in-the-oklahoma-senate/), [outlaw pornography](https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/this-is-spiritual-warfare-dusty-deevers-holy-crusade-to-outlaw-pornography/), and literally see this nation taken [back to the 1600s](https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/why-cant-we-go-back-christian-nationalist-state-sen-dusty-deevers-wants-to-go-back-to-the-1600s/), has [made](https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/post/right-wing-bonus-tracks-a-horrifying-malevolence) [no](https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/voting-demons) [secret](https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/pagan-pride) of his [belief](https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/dusty-deevers-says-chief-end-government-submission-christ) that the fundamental purpose of government is to convert people to Jesus Christ.

      >“[Jesus] has commissioned us to go and make disciples and baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit,“ Deevers said. „And that means that we are his human agents for extending his dominion, his rule throughout this world, and the nations will be glad through that. So to say that the church and the state are separate in the principle of their authority—and the principle being Jesus Christ—is, I believe, it’s blasphemous to say that Jesus Christ isn’t Lord of Lords and King of Kings. And that means not just over the home, not just over the church, but in every sphere; and that is to belittle the Lord Jesus and he doesn’t take it kindly when we belittle him.“

      Dusty Deevers is an embarrassment to Oklahoma. He would would rather turn America into Iran than actually live in a free society. That in itself should be a disqualifier from public office.

    2. American historian here.

      Your Constitution would like you to know it was written specifically so that fanatical asshats like Dusty Deevers can never have control of the levers of American government.

      Madison intended to protect Americans from the 1500 years of tyranny the Church and Christian rule inflicted on Europe.

      Stay in school, kids.

      Don’t be a Deevers.

    3. Cobra-Lalalalalalala on

      Fuck you and your religion. 

      *-this statement brought to you by the First Amendment*

    4. RedditsAllFake on

      This‘ the logic they’ll use to convince christian nationalists to support trump’s fascist takeover of the government.

    5. CynicalSigtyr on

      „Blasphemy“ is not a relevant term in civics, government, or economics. Separation of church and state was engineered specifically so that we didn’t have to care about what was blasphemous with regards to governing a nation.

    6. He’s from Oklahoma, he probably can’t read the constitution to know that it’s part of the deal.

    7. DragonWarrior980 on

      Hey, this country was founded on separation of Church and State. Shove blasphemy up your ass you psychotic shitbags! Keep your insane Christofascism OUT of my government!

    8. Dusty fully approves of „marrying“ 12 year olds. Just like his Orange God.

    9. TintedApostle on

      So in his own statement he proves that they are incapable of separating their religion from their view of governing. Since most people don’t follow his religion, he expects us to accept his views on separation – Thus proving why separation of his church and any religion from a government is necessary.

      Oh and he supports a guy who violates every precept of his religion – once again proving they practice infidelity of the mind.

    10. CurrentlyLucid on

      He should go live in Afghanistan so he has plenty of religion in his govt.

    11. Real-Tank-2690 on

      Religion is the root of hate and fear and is made to control weak minded people if you need religion to make you a good person you a follower and need help more people have died over religion then anything else in the history of man think of it this way if God created all of in his image he did a really bad job and should be fired

    12. Choice-of-SteinsGate on

      Our nation was not „founded on Christianity“ but enlightenment era principles that turned away from the religious authority of the church, away from the divine right of kings, away from a national religion, and towards reason, rationality and democratic ideals.

      The framers organized these principles together to write our founding documents. They challenged and feared the merging of religion and government. They rejected the Church of England and repeatedly rebuked the idea of a national religion or church.

      There is substantial evidence and documentation that points to these facts:

      The Bible even reveals how Jesus Christ himself believed in the concept of the separation between church and state:

      Mark 12:17, „Jesus said to them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.“

      That said, it is documented *fact* that the founders were opposed to the union of religion and government.

      Some were even self proclaimed deists who dismissed with the idea that a divine hand is meddling in our affairs. Instead, they emphasized the importance of rationality, intellect and observation in understanding nature and how society should be governed.

      Thomas Jefferson is often credited with coining the phrase „a wall of separation between church and state“ in his letter to the Danbury Baptist association.

      Jefferson’s metaphor became part of constitutional jurisprudence. He was later quoted by Chief Justice Morrison in Reynolds v. United States in 1878, and was famously referenced in the Supreme Court Case, Everson v. Board of Education, which interpreted the First amendment’s establishment clause as intending to erect that „wall of separation.“

      Jefferson’s writings have been referenced in a series of important legal cases and public debates throughout our history.

      His famous words are invoked to stress the importance of how this separation protects the rights of the people, and how it preserves the functionality of government and the virtue of religious practice. This includes protecting Americans from a repressive, governing religious authority, and guarding one’s religious practice from government intervention.

      Roger Williams, an early puritan minister, founder of the state of Rhode Island and the first Baptist Church in America, was the first public official to call for „a wall or hedge of separation“ between „the wilderness of the world“ and „the garden of the church.“

      Rogers was an early American statesman *and* minister who acknowledged the need for this separation.

      James Madison interpreted Martin Luther’s „Doctrine of Two Kingdoms“ as a conception of the separation of church and state.

      During a debate in the House, Madison also contended, „Because if Religion be exempt from the authority of the Society at large, still less can it be subject to that of the Legislative Body.“

      In his writings years later he documented his support for the „total separation of the church from the state.“

      „Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion & Govt in the Constitution of the United States,“ Madison wrote, and he declared, „practical distinction between Religion and Civil Government is essential to the purity of both, and as guaranteed by the Constitution.“

      John Locke also promoted this idea. In his, „A Letter Concerning Toleration,“ Locke argued that, „ecclesiastical authority must be separated from the authority of the state, or ‚the magistrate.'“

      George Washington wrote to a group of clergy who protested in 1789 against a lack of mention of Jesus Christ in the Constitution; stating, “You will permit me to observe that the path of true piety is so plain as to require but little political direction.”

      That same year, he wrote to the Baptists of Virginia, “…no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.“

      Furthermore, „One Nation under God“ wasn’t even added to the pledge of allegiance until the 1950s, when there was a moral panic and religious revival that unfairly persecuted anyone who was assumed to be gay, communist, atheist, or anything but a god fearing, Christian-American „patriot“ for that matter.

      The pledge of allegiance was first published in 1892 in an Issue of „The Youth’s Companion,“ an American Children’s Magazine.

      Francis Bellamy—a Christian **socialist**—who was said to have „championed the rights of working people and the equal distribution of economic resources,“ which he believed was inherent in the teachings of Jesus Christ no less, worked for the magazine and drafted the „Pledge of Allegiance“ as part of a marketing campaign to solicit subscriptions and sell U.S. flags to public schools.

      The issue coincided with the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus reaching the Americas; an advertising gimmick.

      Bellamy „believed in the absolute separation of church and state“ and intentionally did not include the phrase „under God“ in his pledge.

      What’s more, Bellamy „viewed his Pledge as an ‚inoculation‘ that would protect immigrants and native-born but insufficiently patriotic Americans from the ‚virus‘ of radicalism and subversion.“

      Additionally, „In God we trust“ wasn’t officially adopted and mandated for our currency until the mid-20th century as part of an effort to distinguish the U.S. from the big bad atheist communists of the Soviet Union.

      And all of that aside, I shouldn’t have to remind those on the religious right that our very first amendment prohibits the government from „respecting an establishment of religion.“

      The Supreme Court has also expanded on this, settling the debate and establishing three basic rules that must be followed in order to not violate the clause.

      Government actions:

      – must have a secular purpose
      – must not promote or inhibit religion
      – must not create excessive entanglement between the church and state

      The religious right believes that they are „under attack“ due to things like secularization and a decreasing number of religious fundamentalists in the US. They even feel victimized by the long-held principle that diversity is a strength in America.

      But these are features, not bugs, and distinctively American features no less.

      They’re also convinced that the mere existence of non-christian religious practices, progressive ideas and secular institutions represents some kind of existential threat to their white, Christian hegemony. This threat of course includes a growing acceptance of marginalized and vulnerable groups—especially those deemed „inferior“ because of their ethnic backgrounds or their refusal to subscribe to conservative and/or Christian dogma.

      They believe that their religious and moral superiority entitles them to governance, and that history proves them right on this matter. But it does not. In fact, „God’s design“ was not included in the American blueprint.

      The fact of the matter is, religion is *not* the bedrock upon which our country, its constitution and its government was founded. And regardless of how many Christian Nationalists have slithered their way into our government, it is still wholly un-American to even suggest that Christianity be used as some state tool to pacify and educate citizens, or become the basis for this country’s rule of law.

      It *is* self evident, that in the United States of America, religion has no place in government, and vice versa.

    13. Choice-of-SteinsGate on

      The cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy of the „religious right“ is absolutely appalling

      The leaders they support and nearly everything they stand for directly contradicts the teachings of Jesus Christ

      These „Christians“ are inherently un-Christian in almost every way

      Conservative Christians prioritize power over principles. They align with political figures and ideologies that contradict Jesus teachings of meekness and service.

      They treat the poor and marginalized like vermin

      They preach bigotry and hatred towards outsiders, foreigners and strangers

      They merge their politics and religion to advance policies that worsen inequality and systemic injustices, that take from the poor to give to the rich, that devalue diversity and exploit the underprivileged, that scapegoat vulnerable groups, stigmatize immigrants and refugees, and that aim to promote racial, ethnic, social, and cultural hierarchy.

      They oppose social welfare, safety nets and opportunities for the disadvantaged and the expansion of healthcare.

      But Jesus persistently advocating for the poor, the outcasts, the foreigner, the needy, the sick.

      They emphasize punishment over forgiveness. They openly support the government’s weaponization of the justice system for the purpose of political vengeance.

      They support militarizing domestic policy and federalizing the military and police as a means of oppression.

      Their „law and order“ rhetoric is riddled with dog whistles that intend to incite hostilities towards minorities, immigrants and marginalized groups.

      Their harsh stances on criminal justice, capital punishment, and their disregard for due process and rights for immigrants and out-groups contradict messages of tolerance, forgiveness, love, redemption, compassion.

      Their morality is selective. They constantly overlook ethical and moral concerns; they ignore corruption, greed, environmental degradation, and systemic injustices while vilifying groups that exist outside of their white Christian hegemony and those who don’t strictly adhere to their culture of heteronormativity.

      Their support for Donald Trump takes the form of idol worship, and they devote themselves to a petulant man who represents the antithesis of Christianity and its basic principles.

      Trump has lived a life of fraud and adultery. He is a conman and a cheater in more ways than one. He has been implicated in countless crimes and corrupt scandals. He has a long, perverse history of sexual abuse. He is a petty and vindictive man. He is a demagogue who feeds off of fear and loathing. He relies on the use of inflammatory speech and divisive rhetoric to incite violence and hatred towards his enemies.

      Donald Trump may as well be the anti-christ.

      He’s a pathological liar and narcissist—a self serving hypocrite and greed-monger.

      He embodies the opposite of humility, honesty, fidelity, compassion, austerity.

      As a whole, Trump and his followers defy the very idea of „love your enemies“ and „turn the other cheek.“

      They don’t just despise their perceived enemies, their entire political and religious identity is founded on hate, anger, mockery, antagonism, entitlement, superiority, combativeness, contrarianism etc…

      Truth is central to Christian ethics, but Donald Trump and his supporters are documented liars—they have no commitment to the truth. They lack wits and behave as if truth is subjective.

      Trump’s followers implicitly trust the words of a firebrand and false idol and they promote false narratives, myths, rumors and conspiracy theories.

      They blend their Christian identity and ethos with American nationalism. This is idolatrous and undemocratic.

      They distort scripture and misinterpret and cherry pick the gospel however they see fit.

      Christian Nationalism is a blight on this country, it is evil, it is impious.

      Jesus turned the tables on the Donald Trump’s of the world, but they welcome these rich, corrupt kleptocrats and modern day robber barons with open arms.

      Their party’s platform is inextricably linked to their religious dogma. A party that largely appeals to white supremacists, neo-nazis, hate groups and their many grievances.

      They are a living, breathing contradiction, they epitomize everything a Christian ought not to be, they are un-Christians.

    14. Sad_Pangolin7379 on

      „Give to God what is God’s, and give to Caesar what is Caesar’s.“

      – Actual Jesus.

    15. Yeah no shit dumbass which proves the USA isn’t founded as a Christian nation because the ideals it was founded on at the time would have been considered blasphemous in Christianity. Hence, why the founders were considered radicals. They invented separation of church and state. Fuck these UnAmerican treasonous revisionist Christian Nationalists.

    16. once_again_asking on

      Sounds like Dusty Deevers hates the United States of America. He should leave.

    17. I’m so over Christians, they cause trouble wherever they’ve gone in this world. 99.9% are absolute hypocritical weirdos. I wish they’d fuck off to some designated area where they can live their weird lifestyle and leave the rest of the world alone.

    18. killerkali87 on

      I am convinced most Americans actually have never actually read the constitution 

    19. LovingShiva on

      First of all, no it isn’t. That is ludicrous.

      Second of all, Dusty, go fuck yourself.

    20. PunfullyObvious on

      Is seems that for a goodly number of christians, christianity has little to do anymore with the teachings of christ.

    21. PhalanX4012 on

      Turns out Dusty, to the surprise of no one educated, is a fucking moron.

    22. truethatson on

      Even if you’re a Christian who wants a theocracy, WHAT CHURCH????? WHICH ONE?!?!

      My family are dedicated Christians and they apparently can’t agree on a single GODDAMN THING when it comes to their churches, their religion and their worship.

      Seemingly the only thing they have in common is that they voted for the end of our democracy in favor of what they think is best for them, leaving everyone else out..

      You know, *real* Christians.

    23. bleat_bleat_bleat on

      Fascist fuckers, I’m not interested in participating in a controlled cult

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