Angela Rayners Abgang ist eine altmodische Kopfhaut für die rechte Presse
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/angela-rayner-departure-scalp-press-analysis
Von Odd-Help6890
Angela Rayners Abgang ist eine altmodische Kopfhaut für die rechte Presse
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/angela-rayner-departure-scalp-press-analysis
Von Odd-Help6890
30 Kommentare
I like her but she’s guilty and has to face the consequences, I mean we heard her call for the resignations of tories plenty of times for similar things.
It’s also just such a bad look as housing minister.
The hypocrisy (as noted she called for Tories to resign from office for similar reasons) and what the hell was she thinking?
To be fair, this situation was entirely avoidable and parties should be doing a better job of making sure their MPs are above board with this sort of thing.
I’m so disappointed in her for this but the difference in approach the media has taken compared to criticisms of the past leadership is absolutely grim.
Like everything, the small detail is where the nuance is.
That’s what makes this different in my view, the independent ethics advisor made it clear the situation was complex and that she acted in good faith.
Still has to resign but it’s just a shame 99% of people won’t actually read the letter.
Glad we at least have a govt that respects standards.
Not so mouthy now is she! I am sure she will be back to grace our government again when the dust settles. In the meantime I am sure the media is piling more offers of cash to tell her side of the story.
The nonsense Labour and their media allies kept coming out with about these being ‘smears against a working class woman’ was insulting
Working class people are hardworking and don’t like cheats, and there’s a lot of people who Labour might not consider ‘working class’, who don’t have Rayner’s 3 figure salary or property portfolio, but would never be allowed to get away with any sort of tax fuckery.
Labour’s inherent belief is that they’re the ‘good guys’ of politics, so when stuff like this or the gift scandal comes around, they seem genuinely incapable of understanding why everyone thinks they’re hypocrites
its all right and good that a tax cheat should leave. It’s also massive hypocrisy that this standard is only applied to those on the Left while the media ignores it being standard practice on the Right.
Also note how this is always painted as a personal failing/choice – no action to fix the systems that allowed the underpaying in the first place is ever taken.
I’ll preface this by stating very clearly that I do not like Rayner and consider her a total fraud who played a good PR game and little more. She abandoned her ‚principles‘ very quickly and fooled a lot of people.
She brought herself down, largely due to her own greed. If you don’t want the right wing press to bring you down don’t be greedy, they’re watching.
“Rightwing conspiracy”
Come on. The right wing didn’t bait her into illegally avoiding tax did it?
While I agree labour gets way harsher treatment by the press, in this case what do you expect? She’s supposed to be the working class face of the party that represents the idea of wealthier people ‚paying their fair share‘. How are you going to get people on board with that when you have members who are themselves dodging taxes, notably wealthy ones at that as well? Just looks hypocritical, you can’t rail on rich people for not paying tax while your own members are dodging it themselves.
People care less when conservatives do it because at least conservatives are honest about hating tax so you kind of expect them to dodge it.
*However, they say her admission that she did not pay the correct stamp duty on the purchase of a Hove flat, which some see as a maddening own goal, gave her opponents a clear opening.*
*The Mirror’s front page called it “crisis point” for Starmer’s deputy. It followed a statement from the conveyancing firm Rayner used to complete her purchase of the Brighton flat, stating it did not offer her tax advice.*
Uses a basic licenced conveyancing firm for a £800K purchase while being Deputy PM and Minister for Housing having funded the deposit from a sale of a share of the existing ‚family home‘ to her minor son’s trust. Taking further advice about trusts – both of whom suggest/recommend that she get specialist tax advice – which she doesn’t. Wait until the press investigates and then get specialist tax advice which says she should have paid £40K more in tax. Defend yourself that you relied on 3 pieces of legal advice that extra tax wasn’t due – when one doesn’t give tax advice, the other two gave advice on trusts but recommended she get specialist tax advice (a very misleading defence).
So yes, quite the own goal is correct. Thankfully the press reviewed it and the Treasury will end up with an extra £40K + penalties and interest that was originally due.
And for those that claim you couldn’t expect this ‚working class lass‘ to know about such details – this is why you use advisors. She spent one year as a home help and then spent the rest of her working life before becoming an MP as a senior union steward – ie someone who would be expected to use the rulebooks and advisors to protect her union members.
Got as good as gave shouldn’t have cheated on her tax.
The right wing press basically controls the narrative in the UK, and pretty much always has.
I didn’t know about Rayner’s disabled son until Wednesday and didn’t know that she had been a child carer until yesterday. My opinion of Angela Rayner was therefore mainly derived from what I saw of her on the TV news, and it wasn’t a positive opinion. Rayner could be extremely brutal and nasty in her attacks on opposition MPs and gave very little sympathy to those who had made genuine mistakes. Therefore, I was extremely glad to see her go – not because she’s a woman or a northerner or because she had had a tough upbringing, I was glad to see her go because my perception of her was of an unpleasant person who had probably tried to cheat the system and who had been caught out.
Either:
It was malicious, and therefore right for her to resign
Or
It was incompetence, and therefore right that as a minimum she is no longer housing minister
No it’s not.
It’s not a ‘scalp’ ……..she wasn’t ’tricked’ into doing the wrong thing.
She’s someone who continuously failed the ‘sniff’ test when buying and selling houses.
She was only ‘sorry’ when she was found out and all the Labour MPs who came out in support of her now look like morons.
I was with Rayner until it turned out she was lying about actually receiving tax advice. The whole story also exposes a few nuggets about her as a person which don’t fill me with confidence, she’s certainly penny wise but pound foolish for example, a solicitor would have probably more firmly advised her to seek legal advice on trust arrangements for SDLT but she cheaped out on her conveyancing – not sensible.
The caliber of MPs is shocking. They couldn’t run a bath all of them put together in parliament. How can this be the best in the country. We need proper leadership and accountability. Make those hard decisions and get rid of the chancellor will be a good start. G he as not got a clue driving this economy into the ground.
stepping down was the right thing to do. she cant call out the rich and do the same thing. but it is ironic when the parties and media going mental at rayner are ran by tax dodging supremes.
tax audits and returns should be open to the public. id love to see how many politicians are shipping off money to their accounts in monaco and the caymans.
The Left always get caught like this.
They’ll catch the Right doing something iffy, call out for a resignation and 9 times out of 10, be told to fuck off and go harrumph in a corner.
Then when the Right catch the Left doing something iffy and call for resignations, heads fucking roll!
I just don’t understand the people leaping to her defence. It’s indefensible. She’s the Deputy Prime Minister of a government raising taxes, looking at increasing taxes on property specifically. She’s gone on record saying „Tax Avoidance costs lives“, „integrity is everything“ and she’s castigated her opposition over their own shady tax omissions and said „its one rule for them, another for the rest of us“. She’s also the housing minister. She knows, because it’s already happened once before, that her political opponents will be examining every minute detail of her tax and property affairs to trip her up.
So when she’s conducting a complex personal tax and property calculation, and she is specifically advised to get specialist legal advice on what she owes, what does she do? Ignores that advice, gets no further legal advice, and chooses to just pay the lower rate, even though a simple google search would have directed her to the .gov.uk web page specifically giving guidance on stamp duty rates, where it says in black and white that properties held in trusts for children are considered 2nd properties of the parents and they are liable for the higher rate.
She then denied she’d underpaid for days when exposed, then admitted she’d underpaid after all, but said she’d got legal advice from multiple sources to say she should pay the lower rate, when she hadn’t.
Nobody can surely seriously believe that someone canny and streetwise enough to rise to the top tier of British Politics is also stupid enough to do that all by mistake? When push came to shove and she saw a chance to keep 40K out of the claws of HMRC, she rolled the dice and went for it, and all her bluster was for nothing. The result is terminal damage to her own government and colleagues.
I have no time for her after she sided with cuts to disability benefits, but this is a worry. Labour are consistently making mistakes, and all it’s doing is making reform stronger. This desperate need to appease the right only emboldens Farage and his knuckle dragging ghouls
I am so sick of this nonsense from MPs and similar whenever they get caught commiting fraud of how it’s so difficult to do everything right.
It is not hard to not avoid £40,000 of tax when buying multiple properties, then to lie about it and then to lie about it being due to your lawyers giving you bad advice (in a topic you should be the foremost expert on anyway considering you’re in charge of it).
Yes the tabloids have been hostile to labour, but at this stage it’s just amateur hour. Like rayners dealt with a lot of personal stuff but surely just don’t take the risk.
No freebies, no substance posts from lammy,no almost million pound purchases. Anything goes through 15 layers of labour party lawyers. Save any extravagance for 2030
Indeed. It’s also old-fashioned accountability, something noticeably lacking the last time Murdoch’s favoured party were in charge.
Remember how Boris had to step down? Or Matt Hancock? It happens on both sides, stop pretending the left are held to a higher standard. Politicians SHOULD be held accountable – their salaries are paid by the taxpayer.
Corrupt minister gone. The leaning of the press that exposed said corruption is mostly irrelevant. If anything, they did their jobs correctly.
Im sorry your team lost, but some of us take society seriously – no one gets to cheat.
As soon as you make it ok for your team to cheat, why bother having a society?
That may be true but she handed it on a plate. Hypocrisy is the worst!
No.. she defrauded the taxpayer and lied about it repeatedly then tried to throw her accountants under the bus. There needs to be more accountability