Of course. The separation from the Netherland is the first step towards him becoming prime minister, so I think we could agree with him on that.
BlueHeartbeat on
You should post a translation, you can’t expect most of the sub to have to use a plugin to read your article.
sasnl on
Translation:
Ladies and gentlemen,
Good evening!
How wonderful it is to be in the Netherlands.
How wonderful it is to be here with you.
Today, you have made the effort to come and listen to a Belgian Prime Minister.
You could have stayed at home in front of the television, but you chose to be here.
I don’t know if that was the wise choice. You will be the judge of that later.
When EW – I am no longer allowed to say Elsevier – invited me to give the H.J. Schoo lecture, I did not hesitate for a moment.
After all, I noticed that I am giving the seventeenth lecture at this illustrious gathering.
There are no coincidences. This can only be an irresistible nod to the Seventeen Provinces – the exciting and turbulent years in which the identity and unity of our regions were gently carved in marble. In fact, the pioneer of this, Philip the Good, is the father of our fatherlands, and not William of Orange.
When I was recently in The Hague for the NATO summit and, during a radio interview, I was asked about my feelings of melancholy regarding the separation of the Netherlands, I received, as usual in my own country, some sour reactions, especially from Walloon socialists.
In their eyes, it is “scandalous” or even “completely crazy” to say that it is and remains my very personal opinion that the break-up of the Netherlands is the greatest disaster that has ever befallen us.
Perhaps they should consult Edward Anseele, the socialist leader who helped found the Belgian Workers‘ Party.
Anseele considered the Belgian Revolution to be a “useless revolution of priests and citizens” and a “shameful crime” which – and I quote – “created a border on the map, a major obstacle to the fraternisation of two children of the same tribe”.
My predecessor as mayor of Antwerp and briefly prime minister, Camille Huysmans, also a socialist, called the Revolution “une faute [qui] a détruit un État magnifique” (a mistake [that] destroyed a magnificent state).
I was also criticised for quoting the beautiful verses of Antwerp poet Theodoor van Ryswyck:
*Here, and on the other side,*
*There and here is the Netherlands.*
Van Ryswyck suffered from syphilis, a disease that affected his brain. The poor man was driven mad and died in a psychiatric institution. It is a fate I hope to avoid – I do not have syphilis, but I do have a high-risk job in Brussels‘ Wetstraat. (For my mental health, I mean, not for syphilis.)
In any case, my love for the Netherlands is no secret – I am also married to a Dutch woman – so I cannot simply hide it.
However, closer cooperation between the historic Netherlands – now known as the Benelux – is not a romantic dream or nostalgic notion for me, but a political objective that is essential for our future.
The desire for close cooperation and integration with the Netherlands is, in fact, explicitly and concretely enshrined in Flanders‘ latest coalition agreements:
To work together to protect the prosperity of our Low Countries by joining forces in the areas of culture, education and the economy.
To work together to increase our power and influence within Europe.
And to work together to use this power and influence to strengthen the forces of peace and freedom in the world.
Organic_Contract_172 on
Belgium is the Balkans of Europe
HearingDifficult7143 on
He is unhinged 😀
DearBenito on
The United Provinces are making a comeback? I don’t know how to feel about this one
thetruthfloats on
That’s why there is the BENELUX.
madhaunter on
Even my Flemish family is offended by this. He tries so hard to force a division on our country it disgusts me
hmtk1976 on
I used to think he was a reasonable and intelligent man. The past half year I´ve been wondering why more and more.
Zwift_PowerMouse on
Yeah but they’d have to let the sea back for authenticity.
pabloguy_ya on
Does anyone in the Netherlands want Flanders?
DjangoDynamite on
real and true
Heavy_Practice_6597 on
I dont know if the Netherlands could survive another wave of north Africans if north Belgium joined
The-Nihilist-Marmot on
So Balkan-like that I can hear the accordions.
switchquest on
It’s funny because it’s true.
KirovianNL on
Is this an invitation to liberate the Belgians from themselves?
Aiti_mh on
I’m guessing, Flemish nationalist who doesn’t like having to share a country with Walloons
Flanker1971 on
Is it ok for us now to joke about the Belgians again? Or at least about this one?
Love our neighbours, but we split for reasons. What’s next? Someone wants us all back under Spanish rule?
watch-nerd on
I don’t get the context.
Is he a Belgian advocating for the separation of Flanders from Belgium, and then it joining Netherlands?
Or something else?
Kanhet on
I feel a special military operation incoming by the beginning of next year!
Kelemandzaro on
EW
Pointy-Haired_Boss on
Oh Bart it would be so nice it brings tears to my eyes. And as a thank you the capital should be Antwerp, or even Liege to get buy-in from everyone.
Winter_Ad_2315 on
After reading a lot of comments on De Wever’s statements on the unification of the original Netherlands, I wonder if people know that those original Netherlands / Low Lands included also Namur, Hainaut, la Flandre Française…. So despite the fact that Mr De Wever is indeed a Flemish nationalist, his views on the original/unified Netherlands include what is currently known as Wallonia. He makes the explicit connection with the BeNeLux (a correct connection), meaning that he does not want to split Belgium here, no, he wants to unify what was originally one country. In the late medieval times under the Burgundians, and then between 1815-1830 under Willem I.
Each time, the separation of the South and the North made everyone poorer and made the countries less influential.
So – let’s go for a unified Europe, and let the BeNeLux give the proper example.
piwikiwi on
As a Dutch person, I doubt that it would be in flemish people’s interest to become part of the Netherlands. It would mean they would be the junior partner and I dont see that going well. I also feel that despite the shared language we are culturally relatively different.
Chester_roaster on
I mean surely even the Belgians know their country is made up, this isn’t new.
Dry-Piano-8177 on
Why don‘t we go back a little further. When both countries were part of Spain 😉
DerDeutschLp on
A very Mymy moment
joeri1505 on
As a Dutch person let me just say that in the (stupidly small) chance the Flemish would join us, they would instantly be considered the backwards and somewhat annoying backcountry
They’d basically become our Walloons
rurounidragon on
He should step down as premier and move to the netherlands ,he can try his luck with a centre right party there.
thecartman85 on
2000 years of slaughtering each other and we have learned nothing. The same bs from the same power hungry regards. Humanity doesn’t deserve to exist.
Vierenzestigbit on
We will accept Belgium into our state but only if they call themselves the nether-netherlands
pablo8itall on
Everyone seem to want to dial back the clock to the great empires of old.
It wasn’t that great back then.
janesmex on
Worse than occupation during WWII?
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Make Netherlands great again?!
Of course. The separation from the Netherland is the first step towards him becoming prime minister, so I think we could agree with him on that.
You should post a translation, you can’t expect most of the sub to have to use a plugin to read your article.
Translation:
Ladies and gentlemen,
Good evening!
How wonderful it is to be in the Netherlands.
How wonderful it is to be here with you.
Today, you have made the effort to come and listen to a Belgian Prime Minister.
You could have stayed at home in front of the television, but you chose to be here.
I don’t know if that was the wise choice. You will be the judge of that later.
When EW – I am no longer allowed to say Elsevier – invited me to give the H.J. Schoo lecture, I did not hesitate for a moment.
After all, I noticed that I am giving the seventeenth lecture at this illustrious gathering.
There are no coincidences. This can only be an irresistible nod to the Seventeen Provinces – the exciting and turbulent years in which the identity and unity of our regions were gently carved in marble. In fact, the pioneer of this, Philip the Good, is the father of our fatherlands, and not William of Orange.
When I was recently in The Hague for the NATO summit and, during a radio interview, I was asked about my feelings of melancholy regarding the separation of the Netherlands, I received, as usual in my own country, some sour reactions, especially from Walloon socialists.
In their eyes, it is “scandalous” or even “completely crazy” to say that it is and remains my very personal opinion that the break-up of the Netherlands is the greatest disaster that has ever befallen us.
Perhaps they should consult Edward Anseele, the socialist leader who helped found the Belgian Workers‘ Party.
Anseele considered the Belgian Revolution to be a “useless revolution of priests and citizens” and a “shameful crime” which – and I quote – “created a border on the map, a major obstacle to the fraternisation of two children of the same tribe”.
My predecessor as mayor of Antwerp and briefly prime minister, Camille Huysmans, also a socialist, called the Revolution “une faute [qui] a détruit un État magnifique” (a mistake [that] destroyed a magnificent state).
I was also criticised for quoting the beautiful verses of Antwerp poet Theodoor van Ryswyck:
*Here, and on the other side,*
*There and here is the Netherlands.*
Van Ryswyck suffered from syphilis, a disease that affected his brain. The poor man was driven mad and died in a psychiatric institution. It is a fate I hope to avoid – I do not have syphilis, but I do have a high-risk job in Brussels‘ Wetstraat. (For my mental health, I mean, not for syphilis.)
In any case, my love for the Netherlands is no secret – I am also married to a Dutch woman – so I cannot simply hide it.
However, closer cooperation between the historic Netherlands – now known as the Benelux – is not a romantic dream or nostalgic notion for me, but a political objective that is essential for our future.
The desire for close cooperation and integration with the Netherlands is, in fact, explicitly and concretely enshrined in Flanders‘ latest coalition agreements:
To work together to protect the prosperity of our Low Countries by joining forces in the areas of culture, education and the economy.
To work together to increase our power and influence within Europe.
And to work together to use this power and influence to strengthen the forces of peace and freedom in the world.
Belgium is the Balkans of Europe
He is unhinged 😀
The United Provinces are making a comeback? I don’t know how to feel about this one
That’s why there is the BENELUX.
Even my Flemish family is offended by this. He tries so hard to force a division on our country it disgusts me
I used to think he was a reasonable and intelligent man. The past half year I´ve been wondering why more and more.
Yeah but they’d have to let the sea back for authenticity.
Does anyone in the Netherlands want Flanders?
real and true
I dont know if the Netherlands could survive another wave of north Africans if north Belgium joined
So Balkan-like that I can hear the accordions.
It’s funny because it’s true.
Is this an invitation to liberate the Belgians from themselves?
I’m guessing, Flemish nationalist who doesn’t like having to share a country with Walloons
Is it ok for us now to joke about the Belgians again? Or at least about this one?
Love our neighbours, but we split for reasons. What’s next? Someone wants us all back under Spanish rule?
I don’t get the context.
Is he a Belgian advocating for the separation of Flanders from Belgium, and then it joining Netherlands?
Or something else?
I feel a special military operation incoming by the beginning of next year!
EW
Oh Bart it would be so nice it brings tears to my eyes. And as a thank you the capital should be Antwerp, or even Liege to get buy-in from everyone.
After reading a lot of comments on De Wever’s statements on the unification of the original Netherlands, I wonder if people know that those original Netherlands / Low Lands included also Namur, Hainaut, la Flandre Française…. So despite the fact that Mr De Wever is indeed a Flemish nationalist, his views on the original/unified Netherlands include what is currently known as Wallonia. He makes the explicit connection with the BeNeLux (a correct connection), meaning that he does not want to split Belgium here, no, he wants to unify what was originally one country. In the late medieval times under the Burgundians, and then between 1815-1830 under Willem I.
Each time, the separation of the South and the North made everyone poorer and made the countries less influential.
So – let’s go for a unified Europe, and let the BeNeLux give the proper example.
As a Dutch person, I doubt that it would be in flemish people’s interest to become part of the Netherlands. It would mean they would be the junior partner and I dont see that going well. I also feel that despite the shared language we are culturally relatively different.
I mean surely even the Belgians know their country is made up, this isn’t new.
Why don‘t we go back a little further. When both countries were part of Spain 😉
A very Mymy moment
As a Dutch person let me just say that in the (stupidly small) chance the Flemish would join us, they would instantly be considered the backwards and somewhat annoying backcountry
They’d basically become our Walloons
He should step down as premier and move to the netherlands ,he can try his luck with a centre right party there.
2000 years of slaughtering each other and we have learned nothing. The same bs from the same power hungry regards. Humanity doesn’t deserve to exist.
We will accept Belgium into our state but only if they call themselves the nether-netherlands
Everyone seem to want to dial back the clock to the great empires of old.
It wasn’t that great back then.
Worse than occupation during WWII?