Trump ordnete Robben in die katastrophale Mission auf nordkoreanischen Böden auf
https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-ordered-seals-into-disastrous-mission-on-north-korean-soil/
Trump ordnete Robben in die katastrophale Mission auf nordkoreanischen Böden auf
https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-ordered-seals-into-disastrous-mission-on-north-korean-soil/
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Why were we sending US military into NK again? Last time we lost the USS Pueblo. US seals a prisoners of NK would have been a nightmare.
I bet Trump wanted his Obama – Osama moment.
Little Kim is going to pissed.
Department of Warmongering
I thought he fell in love?
And that was during Trump-lite (2019). Imagine what he and the Dept. of War are going to try to do next.
Disturbing that he hid this from congress at the time. It is the sort of blunder that partially cost Carter reelection when he tried to rescue the hostages back in 79.
At the very least, the big four in congress need to be briefed on this shit. For far too long, congress has given the executive branch carte blanche on the use of military force. They need to reign that in.
I usually don’t like the argument „Imagine if this was Obama“ to criticize Trump. But, fuck me… Imagine if this was Obama. Conservatives would demand his resignation in a heartbeat.
Just another Trump shitshow…
But the love letters!!!
Waiting for Kim’s breakup text.
Dude is furious Obama popped bin laden.
Even his seal team 6 is lesser quality.
Add it to his ever-growing list of crimes. Murderous dictator pedophile.
Imagine all the other crazy shit he’s ordered that is under wraps.
Shit and that was before the purge. I cant imagine how many of these stories will be created now that the senior ranks of the military are all MAGA.
I’d understand a rescue mission. However, sending in a Seal team just to spy seems crazy even for Trump.
He going to start a war. First the Venezuela thing, now North Korea. Insane
Yeah great. Hes a fuck-up thats why Republicans want him so much. It resonates with who they are at the core.
Trump is also a pedophile. Makes you wonder how many of the „conservatives“ are raping our children.
Everything he touches turns to shit.
Were they tasked with delivering another love letter?
What the FUCK!
Why didn’t kegwith and trump go on the mission? Cowards, both of them 🤷🏼♂️
Frick’n Imbecile.
> The botched operation was subjected to a series of military reviews during Trump’s first term. Investigators concluded it was justified under the rules of engagement and declared that the deaths were part of a chain of “unfortunate occurrences” that could not have been foreseen or avoided
So the rules of engagement say „it’s okay to kill civilians when operating covert missions on the soil of a nation we haven’t had an armed conflict with in over half a century“ ?
I get that if it was military they could be fired up on, but FFS this is just going to be propagandized all over North Korean as proof against western influence, and it won’t be made up for once. We killed their civilians trying to fish.
> could not have been foreseen or avoided
My ass it couldn’t. We could have *not* gone to do this. What a fucking debacle.
Is there a link that leads to a nonpaywall website
This is what happens when you elect someone with the mental capacity of a 12 year old boy. Trump does things on a whim that he pictures will make him this great American hero who everybody will see as big and powerful, he does this without any actual useful planning or goal in mind other than how he will look. He genuinely has no idea what he is doing.
TIL but did everybody know about this? Is this old news? What kind of psychopath sends troops into NK.
It’s called consciousness of guilt. He was guilty of everything, staged his own assassination attempt and actually became president because theists are morons.
Now we have to suffer consciousness of guilt to the extreme.
he wanted to find out why he wasn’t invited to the „no pedos; real dictators party,“ but he knows why.
The US murder a bunch of innocent NK fishermen. Ignoring all the politics of it we need to start recognizing the humanity of the victims of US foreign policy.
I think this calls for another investigation into Bengazi.
So, I take it the house is going to form a select committee to grill the people in charge of this for endless hours?
we investigated ourselves, and after careful review, found we did nothing wrong.
Read the Article: [https://archive.ph/YtbJu#selection-705.0-725.233](https://archive.ph/YtbJu#selection-705.0-725.233)
>A Donald Trump-approved plan to send Navy SEALs into North Korea to spy on leader Kim Jong Un resulted in the U.S. killing of civilians, according to a bombshell report.
>The mission, carried out in early 2019 during Trump’s first term, tasked SEAL Team 6’s Red Squadron with sneaking onto the shores of the reclusive state via mini-subs to plant an electronic device that would allow the U.S. to [intercept Kim’s communications](https://archive.ph/o/YtbJu/https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-new-love-letters-reportedly-rebuffed-by-kim-jong-un/), [*The New York Times*](https://archive.ph/o/YtbJu/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/05/us/navy-seal-north-korea-trump-2019.html)reported.
>But as the SEALs were on the shore, they spotted a small boat, with one person entering the water. Believing the boat could be North Korea’s security force, the U.S. team opened fire, killing two or three people in a hail of gunfire.
>When the SEALs approached to confirm the kills, they discovered the men were civilians who had simply been fishing for shellfish, the *Times* reported. Realizing their mistake, members of the Red Squadron—the same unit that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan in 2011—pulled the bodies from the water so they would not be discovered by North Korean authorities.
>One official familiar with the mission told the *Times* the SEALs even punctured the fishermen’s lungs to ensure the corpses would sink.
>North Korea has never publicly acknowledged the deaths, and U.S. officials remain unsure whether the regime ever learned what happened six years ago, according to the report.
>*******************
>According to the *Times*, before the SEALs entered the no-communications zone, Trump had to personally give the final go-ahead for the mission.
>*******************
>The botched operation was subjected to a series of military reviews during Trump’s first term. Investigators concluded it was justified under the rules of engagement and declared that the deaths were part of a chain of “unfortunate occurrences” that could not have been foreseen or avoided, according to the *Times*. The findings were then classified and never made public.
>Several of those involved in the failed mission were later promoted.
>*****************
This was simply a poorly planned mission that went sideways, and because Trump gave the final go ahead the buck stops with him.
Innocent people were killed for no good reason and it was kept a secret for 6 years. Oversight is necessary.
Reminder. Hegseth recently fired the top navy Seal Commander over politics and philosophy.
“SEAL Commander Fired After Clashes With Pentagon
SETH HETTENA AUG 25, 2025
Inside the firing of Rear Admiral Jamie Sands, whose push for accountability and transparency collided with Hegseth’s vision for Naval Special Warfare
Rear Adm. Milton “Jamie” Sands, the two-star commander of the Navy SEALs, was fired Friday after repeated clashes with Pentagon leadership over his handling of high-profile cases and cultural battles inside Naval Special Warfare.
Sands’ defenders say his removal was political, the result of months of friction with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and his allies. But his critics faulted his judgment in several controversies, from a decision that blindsided the Justice Department and scuttled a plea deal, to his push for female instructors in SEAL training, to his handling of a Navy board tied to the 2022 death of trainee Kyle Mullen.
From the outset, Sands brought a values-driven approach to command, emphasizing what he called the “non-negotiable” SEAL ethos of abandoning self and embracing the team. In an appearance on The Program Podcast, he warned leaders against two failures he viewed as catastrophic for discipline and morale. One was misplaced loyalty or prioritizing personal relationships over the organization. The other was willful blindness, ignoring “unacceptable, illegal, immoral, unethical, just bad” conduct.
That philosophy put Sands on a collision course with the civilian military leadership under a president who has ticked many of those boxes. Less than a year after taking command of Naval Special Warfare in Coronado, California, the admiral who gained national attention in 2016 for cracking down on drug abuse within the SEALs was abruptly dismissed.
https://theiceman.substack.com/p/seal-commander-fired-after-clashes
If this is true then it was an act of war. A war crime even. I find it hard to believe that nobody in the chain of command pointed this out. Real life is not a computer game. You usually can’t do these kinds of insertions unless you’re already at war with the target country.
Don’t get me wrong, Trump is a supremely stupid person and I can see him wanting to do something like this, but it was during his first administration where there were ostensibly still some adults in the room capable of stopping him, so I’m hesitant to believe that this took place.
If it did happen, then it is of course turbo fucked.
So there will be hearings in congress like the Benghazi hearings, right?
He’s unfit to be Potus.
The mission sounds like a total mess and shouldn’t have been done. I can see why they’d be tempted to get some kind of information out of North Korea. It is the world’s worst kept secret that intelligence agencies struggle to get any kind of network in place within North Korea. South Korea’s National Intelligence Service didn’t even know that Kim Jong-il was dead until it was announced through official government channels. If the South Koreans are struggling to inflitrate high levels of the North Korean government one can assume its a near impossible task for other countries. Killing the fisherman sounds bad ,but I am not surprised ,given the kind of operation it was, its not unheard of for this kind of action to be taken. Its a legally grey area if Special Forces can kill civilians if they believe the civilians in question will alert enemy forces. In this instance, it appears that they can under the UCMJ. This practice has caused problems in Afghanistan amongst British and Australian Special Forces. We’ve also seen what happens when Special Forces are spotted by civilians and chose to do nothing (Operation Red Wing in Afghanistan ended with 19 dead SEALs).
Its a stark reminder that these kinds of missions can have all kinds of problems and put the military in no win situations. Hence why its important to have a reasonable adult making decisions.
Few things are more dangerous than giving absolute power to a man who knows absolutely nothing but has convinced himself that he knows absolutely everything.