They also showed off some quadrupedal robots which can mount machine guns on their backs.
alwaysfatigued8787 on
Please don’t let there be laser beams attached to shark heads.
LavenderGinFizz on
*Or what? You’ll release the dogs, or the bees? Or the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark, they shoot bees at you? Well, go ahead! Do your worst!*
Rare_Confidence6347 on
Well, people are always like “but that could never happen” and yet here we are. Knocking on the door of doomsday.
humbleObserver on
You ever think about how many problems we can solve in the world if we didn’t have to all worry about defending ourselves from ourselves?
CryMoreFanboys on
Modern Day Imperial Japan
Dramatic_Charity_979 on
Ah, this is going to get ugly 🙁
DTH_245 on
How does this show of force not convince magats that we have no allies anymore? Frump wanted so bad to be one of those guys up there and he wasn’t even invited. Fucking clown.
RedPack2 on
New? You mean they stole it from someone.
Majestic-Collar-2675 on
That’s swell, but try getting a good bikini wax in Beijing!
MediocreDecking on
If you won’t develop the weapons of the Apocalypse you can bet your adversaries will.
Majestic-Collar-2675 on
China is much better at producing lethal viruses.
DrunkenNinja27 on
Man we are fucked, best we can hope for is temu quality.
nelsonself on
China unveils new weapons that they copied from the Americans.
turtleturtlerandy on
Imagine if people used technology to better society instead of trying to hurt people.
Yurple_RS on
Most nuclear weapons are launched from ballistic missile platforms..
It’s shitty that we’re dissolving these treaties and are back in another cold war arms race.
analog_jedi on
Those are way bigger than the warheads from Spies Like Us. Who are they even trying to scare with this?
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jhev1 on
Do new and now powerful nukes really matter? Like what it is a race to see who can save the most rocket fuel and destroy the world with less missiles? Unless your weapon is undetectable from launch it doesn’t matter. Whoever you fire at is going to fire back before your missile hits.
eighthgen on
To be peaceful, you must be capable of great harm. Otherwise, you are just harmless.
CombatRedRover on
I mean, liquid-fueled ICBMs are… hunh.
They are generally considered old technology. I get that the claimed range on these missiles is impressive, but the cost is making these missiles practically worthless.
Liquid fueled missiles don’t sit around all fueled up. The fuel is incredibly toxic and incredibly dangerous to work with. Minimum hours to fuel up the missiles, more like 12 hours. That tends to get noticed.
Liquid fueled missiles are pointless as second strike missiles, since they would obviously be targeted by any first strike. That means their only use case is for first strike, and since their fueling is telegraphed, not even as a surprise first strike.
Even worse, after being put on alert and being fueled, after a certain amount of time the missiles have to be very carefully unfueled. That means there is a distinct period of time when the missiles are utterly worthless, because they have been unfueled and they can’t be refueled until after a pretty serious maintenance cycle. Seals, tanks, all those have to be inspected and possibly replaced after coming into contact with the incredibly toxic fuel. Offhand, I would say at least a couple of days when those missiles just sitting there, worthless. That makes the country that runs those missiles incredibly vulnerable in that period of time.
There’s a reason they switched to solid-fueled rockets right around the time that spy satellites became a serious thing. Liquid-fueled rockets were great (from, say, the Soviet POV) when the only way to keep an eye on Soviet missiles was via U-2 or SR-71 spy planes. Once every Soviet missile silo was under 24/7 surveillance by spy satellites, solid fueled rockets became the way to go. Especially because you could put them onto TELs that would go traipsing around the Siberian woods.
Trying to go into a liquid fuel ICBM is weird. You get some very impressive range out of it, or at least claimed range, but… why?
As to naval-based lasers, cool! There’s a lot of science fiction whiz bang about them, but realistically naval-based laser weapons are, best case scenario, a cheaper (per shot) and more effective replacement for the CIWS than anything else. Within Earth’s atmosphere, there’s only so much power you can pump through the air before you get some serious diminishing returns. The atmosphere doesn’t like absorbing that much thermal energy, and the more light energy you pump through it the more gets converted into thermal energy, and at a certain point the atmosphere has so much thermal energy pumped into it that you can’t pump more light through it.
Let’s say that the maximum is a megawatt. If you try pushing through a gigawatt, you’re not going to get two megawatts of throughput. You’re going to roil up the atmosphere so much that you’re going to get less than a megawatt even though your laser is pushing a lot more power out its front end.
I’m as big a Sci-Fi nerd as the next guy, but in atmosphere laser cannons are, as best as we can tell right now, going to max out as replacements for the Bradley’s 25mm Bushmaster. The limitation isn’t technology, it isn’t focusing the lasers better, it isn’t how much power you can push through your laser assembly. The limitation is the pesky breathable atmosphere around us. Unless you can figure out a way to create a vacuum tunnel between you and your target via some kind of force field, a replacement for the CIWS it’s about the max for lasers. Possibly ever.
Personal-Agent7819 on
They have enough military now that they can safely conquer Taiwan and everything else in the South Chinese Sea without being afraid of repercussions. In the end China does this to conquer non Chinese land.
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They also showed off some quadrupedal robots which can mount machine guns on their backs.
Please don’t let there be laser beams attached to shark heads.
*Or what? You’ll release the dogs, or the bees? Or the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark, they shoot bees at you? Well, go ahead! Do your worst!*
Well, people are always like “but that could never happen” and yet here we are. Knocking on the door of doomsday.
You ever think about how many problems we can solve in the world if we didn’t have to all worry about defending ourselves from ourselves?
Modern Day Imperial Japan
Ah, this is going to get ugly 🙁
How does this show of force not convince magats that we have no allies anymore? Frump wanted so bad to be one of those guys up there and he wasn’t even invited. Fucking clown.
New? You mean they stole it from someone.
That’s swell, but try getting a good bikini wax in Beijing!
If you won’t develop the weapons of the Apocalypse you can bet your adversaries will.
China is much better at producing lethal viruses.
Man we are fucked, best we can hope for is temu quality.
China unveils new weapons that they copied from the Americans.
Imagine if people used technology to better society instead of trying to hurt people.
Most nuclear weapons are launched from ballistic missile platforms..
It’s shitty that we’re dissolving these treaties and are back in another cold war arms race.
Those are way bigger than the warheads from Spies Like Us. Who are they even trying to scare with this?
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Do new and now powerful nukes really matter? Like what it is a race to see who can save the most rocket fuel and destroy the world with less missiles? Unless your weapon is undetectable from launch it doesn’t matter. Whoever you fire at is going to fire back before your missile hits.
To be peaceful, you must be capable of great harm. Otherwise, you are just harmless.
I mean, liquid-fueled ICBMs are… hunh.
They are generally considered old technology. I get that the claimed range on these missiles is impressive, but the cost is making these missiles practically worthless.
Liquid fueled missiles don’t sit around all fueled up. The fuel is incredibly toxic and incredibly dangerous to work with. Minimum hours to fuel up the missiles, more like 12 hours. That tends to get noticed.
Liquid fueled missiles are pointless as second strike missiles, since they would obviously be targeted by any first strike. That means their only use case is for first strike, and since their fueling is telegraphed, not even as a surprise first strike.
Even worse, after being put on alert and being fueled, after a certain amount of time the missiles have to be very carefully unfueled. That means there is a distinct period of time when the missiles are utterly worthless, because they have been unfueled and they can’t be refueled until after a pretty serious maintenance cycle. Seals, tanks, all those have to be inspected and possibly replaced after coming into contact with the incredibly toxic fuel. Offhand, I would say at least a couple of days when those missiles just sitting there, worthless. That makes the country that runs those missiles incredibly vulnerable in that period of time.
There’s a reason they switched to solid-fueled rockets right around the time that spy satellites became a serious thing. Liquid-fueled rockets were great (from, say, the Soviet POV) when the only way to keep an eye on Soviet missiles was via U-2 or SR-71 spy planes. Once every Soviet missile silo was under 24/7 surveillance by spy satellites, solid fueled rockets became the way to go. Especially because you could put them onto TELs that would go traipsing around the Siberian woods.
Trying to go into a liquid fuel ICBM is weird. You get some very impressive range out of it, or at least claimed range, but… why?
As to naval-based lasers, cool! There’s a lot of science fiction whiz bang about them, but realistically naval-based laser weapons are, best case scenario, a cheaper (per shot) and more effective replacement for the CIWS than anything else. Within Earth’s atmosphere, there’s only so much power you can pump through the air before you get some serious diminishing returns. The atmosphere doesn’t like absorbing that much thermal energy, and the more light energy you pump through it the more gets converted into thermal energy, and at a certain point the atmosphere has so much thermal energy pumped into it that you can’t pump more light through it.
Let’s say that the maximum is a megawatt. If you try pushing through a gigawatt, you’re not going to get two megawatts of throughput. You’re going to roil up the atmosphere so much that you’re going to get less than a megawatt even though your laser is pushing a lot more power out its front end.
I’m as big a Sci-Fi nerd as the next guy, but in atmosphere laser cannons are, as best as we can tell right now, going to max out as replacements for the Bradley’s 25mm Bushmaster. The limitation isn’t technology, it isn’t focusing the lasers better, it isn’t how much power you can push through your laser assembly. The limitation is the pesky breathable atmosphere around us. Unless you can figure out a way to create a vacuum tunnel between you and your target via some kind of force field, a replacement for the CIWS it’s about the max for lasers. Possibly ever.
They have enough military now that they can safely conquer Taiwan and everything else in the South Chinese Sea without being afraid of repercussions. In the end China does this to conquer non Chinese land.