They would have to actually be racing to lose a race.
Atlabatsig on
No kidding. Talking about humans going back to the moon for 30 years and accomplishing nothing, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that America won’t be first.
pxm7 on
Offtopic:
In the 1400s, when European nations were beginning to build the first ships to explore the high seas, China had well-constructed ships that dwarfed anything these nations had. They were used for exploration, trade, and diplomacy — including lavish gifts bestowed on rulers who acknowledged the might of the Chinese emperor.
Then, by the mid-1450s, just as European ships were starting to get better, these voyages stopped, the fleet was recalled and destroyed or left to rot, leaving the oceans uncontested in European hands. Of course, this decision changed the world for the next 500 years. Many historians have researched why this happened, and believe that cost concerns and a new emperor’s focus on northern borders may have caused this strategic misstep.
Google [Ming Dynasty Treasure Fleet] if you’d like to find out more, I’m really not making this up.
MoMoeMoais on
# Headline: Anyone paying attention says United States likely to lose second lunar space race
captHij on
Instead of complaining about losing a „race“ politicians and policy makers should be out there explaining why it worth doing. They want to pose this as not getting out there first but cannot be bothered to explain why it is even worth getting there at all. People on this r/space will not have any problem imagining a benefit, but for the general public just trying to get by this is uninteresting, and very few people are making the case as to why they should care.
DNathanHilliard on
It would help if they quit changing plans every administration.
sojuz151 on
The primary cause for the US lunar landing delay is that there are not enough changes of direction and plans. When you allow engineers to work on the same thing for more than a single administration they get lazy and fat. There is a huge need to shake things up, maybe switch the capsule used to send the crew to something else?
ITividar on
Why do we care about racing China, or anyone, back to something we’ve already done before? We should be pushing forward.
Lunar satellites? ✅️
Lunar rovers? ✅️
Boots on the Lunar ground? ✅️
Lunar samples returned? ✅️✅️ (so much to the point that NASA lost some and was giving it out as presents, and we still have so, so much of it left)
Devincc on
Second race? The US won THE race over 50 years ago. This is just NASA postering for a larger budget
SimilarZucchini9240 on
Yeah that’s all we do since the current administration took over: lose
Sqeegg on
there cannot even be a debate about this
„dont use science, use common sense“ the maga mantra
those morons elected this moron
so if an asteroid approaches earth the USA is NOT going to do anything but film it
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They would have to actually be racing to lose a race.
No kidding. Talking about humans going back to the moon for 30 years and accomplishing nothing, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that America won’t be first.
Offtopic:
In the 1400s, when European nations were beginning to build the first ships to explore the high seas, China had well-constructed ships that dwarfed anything these nations had. They were used for exploration, trade, and diplomacy — including lavish gifts bestowed on rulers who acknowledged the might of the Chinese emperor.
Then, by the mid-1450s, just as European ships were starting to get better, these voyages stopped, the fleet was recalled and destroyed or left to rot, leaving the oceans uncontested in European hands. Of course, this decision changed the world for the next 500 years. Many historians have researched why this happened, and believe that cost concerns and a new emperor’s focus on northern borders may have caused this strategic misstep.
Google [Ming Dynasty Treasure Fleet] if you’d like to find out more, I’m really not making this up.
# Headline: Anyone paying attention says United States likely to lose second lunar space race
Instead of complaining about losing a „race“ politicians and policy makers should be out there explaining why it worth doing. They want to pose this as not getting out there first but cannot be bothered to explain why it is even worth getting there at all. People on this r/space will not have any problem imagining a benefit, but for the general public just trying to get by this is uninteresting, and very few people are making the case as to why they should care.
It would help if they quit changing plans every administration.
The primary cause for the US lunar landing delay is that there are not enough changes of direction and plans. When you allow engineers to work on the same thing for more than a single administration they get lazy and fat. There is a huge need to shake things up, maybe switch the capsule used to send the crew to something else?
Why do we care about racing China, or anyone, back to something we’ve already done before? We should be pushing forward.
Lunar satellites? ✅️
Lunar rovers? ✅️
Boots on the Lunar ground? ✅️
Lunar samples returned? ✅️✅️ (so much to the point that NASA lost some and was giving it out as presents, and we still have so, so much of it left)
Second race? The US won THE race over 50 years ago. This is just NASA postering for a larger budget
Yeah that’s all we do since the current administration took over: lose
there cannot even be a debate about this
„dont use science, use common sense“ the maga mantra
those morons elected this moron
so if an asteroid approaches earth the USA is NOT going to do anything but film it