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    1. Neat_Let923 on

      Does McPherson think Canada is the supreme leader of the world or something???

      Our recognition of Palestine as a fully independent State hinges on very specific requirements from the Palestinian Authority, Palestine Liberation Organization, and Hamas.

      >“Ultimately, there’s no timing that obviously makes sense for this, but—to me—the government hasn’t sufficiently explained its rationale for doing this,”

      They literally explained the rationale as a way to give the PA, PLO, and Hamas time to figure out how to complete the requirements made by the countries willing to recognize Palestine…

      For someone calling the government performative, this guy is calling for the government to recognize a State that has no leadership structure, is fractured between three groups, and has not been able to come to any agreements amongst themselves yet. So who does he think they’re going to recognize as the leadership of this State if they do it before they’ve actually set those up?

    2. CanuckleHeadOG on

      Let me know when they recognize a specific government as the only government and that they will be responsible for all attacks coming from their territory.

    3. PopeOfDestiny on

      >The prime minister pointed to the threat of Hamas and its rejection of Israel’s right to exist, the expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, and „the ongoing failure by the Israeli government to prevent the rapidly deteriorating humanitarian disaster in Gaza“ as “steadily and gravely erod” a future two-state solution.

      I’m sorry. „Failure to prevent the rapidly deteriorating humanitarian disaster“. This language is *insane*.

      This is not a „failure to prevent“. Israel is *doing this on purpose*.

      We aren’t lambasting Russia over their „failure to prevent“ deteriorating conditions in Ukraine. We are going after them for *doing it*.

      This is not just cowardice. This is complicity at the highest possible level. We are letting this happen. Our government is permitting a *genocide* be carried out because we label the perpetrator as „not stopping it“ instead of living in reality and stating they are causing it. Which they are.

      If we labelled this a genocide, we would have every legal tool imaginable to at least try to do *something* stop this. We are choosing to do nothing under the guise of „playing by the rules“ and „not rushing to conclusions“.

      Act, cowards. If the rules are what is allowing this to happen, then, and I cannot stress this enough, *fuck the rules*. They were designed precisely to stop this exact situation. If the rules do not stop it, then it’s time to make new ones. Let that be your legacy, instead of genocide. It’s looking like it’ll probably be the latter, though.

    4. ConundrumMachine on

      A Palestinian state will just enshrine apartheid. The terms Israel will be satisfied with basically removes all sovereignty of this proposed state. Also, if we don’t get food in there asap there won’t be any Palestinians left to form a state which is the point of this performative effort.

    5. wet_suit_one on

      State recognition won’t make one lick of difference one way or another to what is currently going on anyways.

      The basis of this criticism is completely flawed.

      Of course the action being criticized, i.e. recognizing a Palestinian state, is also flawed. It’s just a means to appear to be doing something while actually doing nothing of any significance, but still.

      Well, whatever. It’s not like hundreds of thousands of people aren’t being starved or killed anywhere else in the world right?

      Humans and their proclivity for evil grows increasingly tiresome. Thankfully, one day it will end. Not in my lifetime, but one day.

    6. alexander1701 on

      I do think it’s important as a means of objecting to the displacement of the Palestinians that we grant them an official voice in Canada this way. But let’s not kid ourselves: it won’t change their urgent situation.

      The reality on the ground is that the Palestinians are divided into 165 separated and disconnected enclaves that couldn’t be reconnected into a viable state without displacing around ten percent of the population of Israel. That’s not something that’s structurally or legally possible for the state of Israel to agree to, any more than Canada could seize half of Toronto through eminent domain. It is not, in reality, two states, but a single and ultimately inseparable apartheid state in which the subjugated people are denied citizenship through assignment to bantustans.

      Giving the Palestinians a voice still matters in that. They’re up against a significantly more powerful state, and their perspective is not given equal weight to that state in Canada’s parliament. But it’s never going to be possible for them to be a separate state from Israel anymore. The settlements have simply grown too much and too far. Their voice still makes it harder for Israel to argue for their displacement or annihilation, and so we do need to do it, but let’s not kid ourselves: it’s purely symbolic at this stage.

    7. Round_Ambassador_684 on

      Recognized or not, Palestinian will still have the choice between: be shot and moved or be moved and shot.

      There is no universe where Canada would ever make a move against Israel when US stalwart support continues for the foreseeable future.

      At the end of the day, words are nothing without actions. The fate of Palestinians will be solely decided by Israel while we sit and watch.

    8. SendMagpiePics on

      McPherson and the NDP are absolutely correct. Canada is morally obligated to do what it can about this crisis, and that starts with recognizing Palestine as a state without conditions, and stopping all arms sales of any kind to Israel. Taking about recognizing Palestine is a perfectly reasonable and pragmatic thing to push on *because the Prime Minister said we would do it but has not yet.* This isn’t pie in the sky stuff from the NDP, it’s rational and moderate.

      No one thinks Canada can unilaterally stop the occupation of Gaza, and it’s a strawman argument for folks in here to claim that’s what the NDP thinks. More importantly, it’s a deflection from the question of what Canada actually should be doing. Saying „this won’t solve the problem entirely“ just deflects away from the essential conversation about what Canada actually can and should do.

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