Wo zum Teufel fange ich an …?
Ich bin seit Beginn des Juni in Norwegen und bin nach Norwegen gezogen, um mit meinem Partner zusammen zu sein.
Ich habe die UDI -Form gemacht und zur Polizei gegangen, großartig!
Jetzt Nav … zuerst sind wir dorthin gegangen, um meine D -Nummer zu bekommen und mich dort als Arbeitssuchende zu registrieren. Uns wurde gesagt, wir können eine D -Nummer bekommen und es wird in einer Woche per Post eintreffen. Großartig! 2 Wochen vergehen und keine Post. Wir rufen dann Navigation an, warum wir keine Post bekommen haben. Sie sagten uns, dass sie nicht herausfinden konnten, warum wir nichts bekommen haben, also mussten wir nach Skatteetaten mussten. Also gingen wir nach Skatteetaten (was einen Monat dauerte, um einen Termin zu vereinbaren). In der Skatteetaten konnte sie unter meinem Namen keine D -Nummer finden, also sagten sie uns, wir sollen ein Prrsonal -Nummernformular ausfüllen, und sie sagen uns, dass sie bis zu 6 Monate dauern können, um das Formular zu beenden. Nicht gut – da ich nur 6 Monate ohne Arbeit bleiben kann.
Also gehen wir dann wieder zu NAV, um zu wissen, was mit meiner D -Nummer passiert ist. Wir haben herausgefunden, dass sie meinen Namen absolut falsch geschrieben haben. Sie benutzten sowohl meinen Familiennamen als auch meinen Vornamen. Absolut fantastisch, wir haben unsere D -Nummer auf Papier geschrieben.
Jetzt hatten wir ein Interview mit NAV, um eine Person in NAV zu haben, mit der wir uns kontaktieren konnten (da ich 22 Jahre alt bin). Das Interview lief großartig! Sie verstand meine Gesundheitsprobleme und wollte uns helfen. Das war jetzt Montag, ich bin seit 3 Monaten hier. Offensichtlich habe ich mich für Jobs eingereicht, aber nichts anderes als Ablehnungen. Wir hofften, dass Nav mir aufgrund meines Gesundheitswesens und meiner Ausbildung helfen würde.
Aber heute bekomme ich eine Nachricht (siehe das Bild angehängt) und sagt, sie können mir nicht helfen, weil ich ein EFTA -Bürger bin (???) und sie wissen nicht, wie lange ich in Norwegen bleiben werde.
Also schicken sie uns hin und her, nur um zu sagen, dass sie mir überhaupt nicht helfen können und jetzt stecke ich fest …
EDIT: Ich schimpfe nicht über die norwegischen Klassen !!! Wie albern die Situation ist (schicke mich hin und her und fehlt meinen Namen, hahah)
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Von Loligiirl
18 Kommentare
You haven’t paid any taxes in this country why should NAV help you? Shouldn’t you ask for help from the country you and your family before you paid taxes?
NAV does not in general help work immigrants, unless you have a refugee status.
Me and my now husband got married just so I could get through udi and get access to language courses, the sad thing is you’ll never get any financial help so it can be difficult and even after the language course there may still be difficulties in finding employment, NAV won’t even help me.
I have been exactly in your situation, the person at nav was extremely friendly and even honestly told me that it would be much, MUCH easier for me if I would come from Africa. As an immigrant from a European country you are basically on your own, no support for language or anything else.
Even support courses to help you find easier access to the job market (such as forklift or truck driver licenses and stuff) are not supported if you are European.
It’s a bit weird and you are definitely not alone with your frustration, it felt very unfair to me as well.
My first question is, why do you think NAV will help you get a job when you’re a new immigrant who has stayed here for all of 2-3 months?
NAV should really be a last resort *(I’m not talking about their job portal, but their programs to get people into jobs)* reserved for those who have exhausted **conventional** means of gaining employment.
The work market is rough right now, and you probably don’t know Norwegian. It’s going to take a lot more applications and a lot more proactiveness towards employers and job listings for you to secure a position. It might be easier for you if you apply outside fo the big cities.
Is your partner Norwegian? The first thing you need to do is to gain at least conversational skills in the language.
Apply to vikariat and part time positions within health if you are qualified from a EU country.
If it is any condolence, NAV oppresses everyone both immigrants and Norwegians alike and are only slightly nicer to Norwegians. But I hear horror stories such as a Norwegian man who got told to live in a tent after he applied for assistance. The people who work at NAV are human beings just like everyone else however, just like police officers these positions give a lot of power over other people. Some choose to use it judiciously and some people use this power to harm and denigrate.
If you are having difficulties with NAV you are not alone, I encourage you to complain and keep applying (keep fighting). You are a human being, you are a member of Norwegian society even if you don’t have citizenship. Every complaint reforms the system a little better for the people who come after.
I personally have been the subject of discrimination from a NAV case worker who quote „wasn’t sure if I had rights as an EEA citizen to receive services from NAV.“ This was an intimidation tactic to get me to give up. However, just like you I am also a member of this society and I had to fight and fight but I eventually overcame and so can you.
Sending you all the strength. It is not easy.
Still people wonder why I quit paying taxes.
EFTA citizen just means your are national of one of the four European Free Trade Association (EFTA) countries: Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, or Switzerland.
but yea basically NAV only works with norwegian citizens or people who have permanent residency, and have paid enough taxes.
I belive you need to actively work and pay tax for atleast two consecutive years to obtain it.
This is a standard procedure. A colleague of mine got the same reply with a face-to-face meeting with a NAV employee in 2019.
Economic immigrants are supposed to be economically stable.
An exception is if you are married to a.Norwegian citizen, you may get a free Norwegian course within 5 years from your arrival. This was in 2014. The rule might have changed.
As a rule of thumb, ask for something if you have given something. So, you get unemployment benefits only if you have contributed to it. There are many exceptions (eg Health care, assistance to kids)
When it comes to nav you only need to be persistent and complain and you will get what you want
Are you trolling?
Why should the norwegian taxpayers money be used for you to learn norwegian if you are not even a citizen? You chose to move to Norway, you should pay for this yourself
So you came here to work and your expect nav to give you free stuff?
Keep dreaming!
The d number process is very straight forward so most likely you did something wrong or got poor advice. D nummer is always done at Skatteetaten.
You don’t have to wait 1 month, you can check if people cancel and then get an appointment.
You’re not entitled to free/discounted language courses if you’re from an EU country. That’s something you should be sorting out yourself and expecting NAV to cover it is kinda wild in my opinion. Not sure if your partner or someone else led you down that garden path. Are you struggling to find jobs because of the language or your health? Strange that someone at NAV you had a meeting with said they could help you but then you get a response saying that now they won’t. I recommend joining bemanningsbyrå like Manpower and get temp work while you build up your Norwegian. Lots of free resources online and get your partner to speak to you as much as possible.
I assume you have entered with the purpose of finding a job. If you have not got that within 6 months you need to leave, but since you are from EFTA country you can reenter again at once and register at the police within 3 monts of entering for a new 6 months period.i also think there are som exception for the 6 months rule if you have enough funds to get buy, and can prowe it when you are from EFTA country.
I think your approach is a bit wrong here.
You are an EFTA citizen. Which means you have the right to work in Norway from day 1, considering that you have applied for D number at least. Especially that you moved here to follow your partner.
So… why do you need free Norwegian courses? Is it a good to have or do you actually need it?
It’s one thing to register as job seeker with NAV, and another thing to ask for financial support (free courses is still financial support) from day 1.
Best of luck anyway!
Everyone- i think there is a HUGE misunderstanding 😭
I am not complaining about the NORWEGIAN CLASSES!!!
I am complaining how silly the situation is how they send me back and forth and now i got told Nav cant help me as a job seeker!!
Not about the language lessons!
This is something that a lot of people I know have struggled with (I work in hospitality which is where most work immigrants end up while looking for work that aligns better with their education).
When it comes to getting work there are definitely jobs you can get. Most of them will be within hospitality, construction or the like. Mostly physical labour or work where there are almost no requirements. Applying for work in the districts is also more likely to produce results. Not knowing Norwegian is definitely a huge detractor, especially when it comes to healthcare.
A couple of courses you can take are quite cheap, though the best would probably be Voksenopplæringen. There should be one in every city and they have courses from level A1 to academic B2-C1. Everyone can apply and if you’re lucky NAV might help (though from your post it looks unlikely.) though I suggest starting immedietly anyways.
Also, which city are you staying in? And have you started practicing Norwegian?
Why should norway sponsor your language courses? You moved willingly, by your own choice. Your lack of planning should not take resources from those who actually need it. Theres also free resources online, and most likely in your city (like språkkafe) where you can learn and practice