Radical and Starmer might be a bit of an ask really.
HotelPuzzleheaded654 on
We need a party who can magically stop all illegal immigration and cut taxes whilst managing to have no noticeable decline in public services and making the cost of living cheaper.
Diligent_Craft_1165 on
The main parties will go for the managed decline route instead of looking at ideas that might upset the boomers
regnarrion on
Would anyone really hate to tie this all up into a referendum on immigration in general? It feels appropriate at this point.
Key_Preference_9895 on
Radical action: Farage. Like Brexit, he will create amazing solutions for the UK /s
malin7 on
Except Starmer can’t do anything without everyone having a breakdown like cutting WFA or trying to reform benefits
Can’t cut taxes or increase spending without the markets imploding so we’re just sleeping walking to oblivion
Dangerous-Branch-749 on
People in this country want the moon on a stick. World class public services while paying little in the way of tax.
Horror_Extension4355 on
The gap betweeen the have and have nots has massively widened. The growth of social media means it’s much easier for us all to see how the system gets played but also the huge inequalities in life – student debt, housing, opportunity, public services
BaBeBaBeBooby on
It is broken. I’d like to hear sensible options to repair it as well, instead of soundbites. I think almost all the problems stem back to a lack of economic growth over the past (almost) 20 years. So, we really need to hear from people with suggestions that will stimulate growth…but that’s very likely to mean tax cuts and a Truss-like budget. The alternative of no growth/decline, is the status quo, which will take us to a dark place.
giogit on
It’s not just Britain that is broken, it’s an entire system that is declining, but no one want to see it!
DangerMouse111111 on
Problem is this has happened before, governments didn’t listen and we voted the same way again and again – it’s almost as responding to a poll is about all we can manage before apathy sets in. Until something drastic happens, nothing is going to change.
ArcticAlmond on
Ultimately, I think this is where Starmer is going wrong.
He’s on the record as basically saying that he doesn’t think the system is broken, and we can improve things through lots of little tweaks. When 2/3 of people think that we need radical reform, tweaking around the edges is always going to be considered disappointing.
logicalGOOSE_ on
I’m excited for potential NI on rent. That will definitely not just be immediately passed on to the renters.
I just love having another reason for my rent to go even higher than it already is.
Id rather just be taxed directly for renting at this point, at least it would be transparent and consistent
Designer_Ear_1382 on
So, let’s vote Reform and all the people who got us into this massive turd dump in the first place.
PNghost1362 on
Getting kinda sick of certain individuals who stand to gain a lot from „radical action“ tell us that we need „radical action“.
ProfessorMiserable76 on
This is the same population that couldn’t accept the winter fuel allowance being means tested.
People want radical change as long as it doesn’t effect themselves.
ReggieLFC on
Members of Parliament can’t do anything radical anymore. The markets are far too sensitive.
Liz Truss tried something ~~radical~~ different, and then the market panicked and the pound fell. She was then outlasted by a lettuce. No matter who we elect no one is going to risk being the next Truss.
2moreX on
…and keep voting for the same cabal of Britain – hating politicians.
pajamakitten on
But the radical action will likely highlight the division that already exists as different groups want different things and refuse to compromise. For example, I want tougher reform on immigration but some people think that means sinking boats in the Channel and keeping immigrants in shanty towns; I would never back those policies. The only thing that crosses the divide is that we all agree the UK has stagnated and needs to change.
XibanyaR on
Starting by the House of Lords might be a good start
soothysayer on
Working to rejoin the EU would probably be a good first step.
knitscones on
Yes tax the rich and make wage suppression illegal.
BevvyTime on
People really will swallow any old shit they’re fed by mainstream and social media won’t they
LazuliChain on
You guys are going to vote in bloody Nigel aren’t you? Geez.
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Radical and Starmer might be a bit of an ask really.
We need a party who can magically stop all illegal immigration and cut taxes whilst managing to have no noticeable decline in public services and making the cost of living cheaper.
The main parties will go for the managed decline route instead of looking at ideas that might upset the boomers
Would anyone really hate to tie this all up into a referendum on immigration in general? It feels appropriate at this point.
Radical action: Farage. Like Brexit, he will create amazing solutions for the UK /s
Except Starmer can’t do anything without everyone having a breakdown like cutting WFA or trying to reform benefits
Can’t cut taxes or increase spending without the markets imploding so we’re just sleeping walking to oblivion
People in this country want the moon on a stick. World class public services while paying little in the way of tax.
The gap betweeen the have and have nots has massively widened. The growth of social media means it’s much easier for us all to see how the system gets played but also the huge inequalities in life – student debt, housing, opportunity, public services
It is broken. I’d like to hear sensible options to repair it as well, instead of soundbites. I think almost all the problems stem back to a lack of economic growth over the past (almost) 20 years. So, we really need to hear from people with suggestions that will stimulate growth…but that’s very likely to mean tax cuts and a Truss-like budget. The alternative of no growth/decline, is the status quo, which will take us to a dark place.
It’s not just Britain that is broken, it’s an entire system that is declining, but no one want to see it!
Problem is this has happened before, governments didn’t listen and we voted the same way again and again – it’s almost as responding to a poll is about all we can manage before apathy sets in. Until something drastic happens, nothing is going to change.
Ultimately, I think this is where Starmer is going wrong.
He’s on the record as basically saying that he doesn’t think the system is broken, and we can improve things through lots of little tweaks. When 2/3 of people think that we need radical reform, tweaking around the edges is always going to be considered disappointing.
I’m excited for potential NI on rent. That will definitely not just be immediately passed on to the renters.
I just love having another reason for my rent to go even higher than it already is.
Id rather just be taxed directly for renting at this point, at least it would be transparent and consistent
So, let’s vote Reform and all the people who got us into this massive turd dump in the first place.
Getting kinda sick of certain individuals who stand to gain a lot from „radical action“ tell us that we need „radical action“.
This is the same population that couldn’t accept the winter fuel allowance being means tested.
People want radical change as long as it doesn’t effect themselves.
Members of Parliament can’t do anything radical anymore. The markets are far too sensitive.
Liz Truss tried something ~~radical~~ different, and then the market panicked and the pound fell. She was then outlasted by a lettuce. No matter who we elect no one is going to risk being the next Truss.
…and keep voting for the same cabal of Britain – hating politicians.
But the radical action will likely highlight the division that already exists as different groups want different things and refuse to compromise. For example, I want tougher reform on immigration but some people think that means sinking boats in the Channel and keeping immigrants in shanty towns; I would never back those policies. The only thing that crosses the divide is that we all agree the UK has stagnated and needs to change.
Starting by the House of Lords might be a good start
Working to rejoin the EU would probably be a good first step.
Yes tax the rich and make wage suppression illegal.
People really will swallow any old shit they’re fed by mainstream and social media won’t they
You guys are going to vote in bloody Nigel aren’t you? Geez.