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    Der frühere OpenAI-Leiter der politischen Forschung zufolge wird ein monatliches UBI in Höhe von 10.000 US-Dollar mit AI-fähiger Wachstum „machbar“ sein.


    Die Person, die diese Behauptung macht, Meilen Brundagehat einen angesehenen Hintergrund in der KI -Politikforschung, einschließlich der Leiter der Politikforschung von OpenAI von 2018 bis 24. Dies ist umso mehr Grund, skeptische Fragen zu solchen Ansprüchen zu stellen.

    Welche Ökonomen stimmen dieser Behauptung zu? (Wo sind Zitate/Quellen, um diese Behauptung zu unterstützen?)

    Wie wird es politisch kommen? (Einige Länder sind so polarisiert, dass sie einen Bürgerkrieg gegenüber etwas so links wie UBI vorziehen würden.)

    Wie wäre die Inflation, wenn alle 10.000 US -Dollar UBI hätten? (Würden Eier $ 1.000 ein Dutzend sein?)

    Trotzdem bin ich froh, dass er zumindest mutig genug ist, um ernsthaft zu stellen, was die meisten nicht werden. Es ist so schade, dass wir uns nicht mit den Ökonomen stellen werden, wir werden uns mit der Diskussion zum Quelllicht befassen, die nicht viel über Anekdoten und Meinungen steigt.

    Der ehemalige OpenAI-Forscher sagt

    Former OpenAI Head of Policy Research says a $10,000 monthly UBI will be 'feasible' with AI-enabled growth.
    byu/lughnasadh inFuturology

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    1. wwarnout on

      >What would inflation be like if everyone had $10K UBI? (Would eggs be $1,000 a dozen?)

      $1000/dozen is probably an exaggeration (eggsageration?), but they would very likely be much more than they are today.

    2. fromwhichofthisoak on

      Feasible? Even if so not a fucking chance the poors are „allowed“ 120k a year

    3. Polaroid1793 on

      1) this person has no idea what he’s blabbering about
      2) having your mean of sustainance tied to the goodwill of corporate overlords and politicians it’s not a good idea

    5. TrueCryptographer982 on

      I am so sick and tired of this bullshit.

      EVERYONE rattles on about UBI this and UBI that and this guy spouts $10,000 a month.

      HOW IS IT FINANCED?

      No one actually tells us that ,its like a magical money pot will appear from no one working or paying taxes.

      Big business is taxed through the roof to pay for it? Sure, then big business basically controls government.

      The uber wealthy get hyper taxed to pay for it? Same challenge.

      UBI is not some panacea for the AI challenge its just a buzzword to shut everyone up and make us think things will be fine. Dig under the buzzword and there is nothing of any substance because no one has come up with a real idea to fund it.

      And no I don’t have the answer – thats way above my pay grade.

    6. darkscyde on

      Bruh, we literally need to take out all of the billionaires (with taxes) or this planet is fucking cooked. Ain’t no AI fucking enabled growth gonna save anyone as long as billionaires suckin out all the money from all of us.

    7. sailee94 on

      This can’t work. Demand and supply can’t work. People HAVE to be poor for the richer people to enjoy luxury, and I doubt they want to give up luxury. Your 10k will feel like 2k. But at least you won’t have to work anymore and on a 15 minutes radius you will be able to reach all you need.

    8. DerekVanGorder on

      I can’t speak for economists, but I’m the cofounder of a nonprofit think tank whose mission is to study the macroeconomics of UBI.

      We emphasize that an inflation-free UBI is possible right now.

      By gradually adjusting a UBI upwards, we can discover how much UBI is sustainable without any loss in production.

      New developments such as AI do not enable UBI; they increase the ceiling on how much UBI is possible.

      Even if the UBI is funded entirely through deficit-spending, inflation can be avoided by calibrating the UBI appropriately. Calibration ensures that aggregate nominal spending does not become excessive.

      There are real limits on UBI spending, and these limits are determined by the economy’s capacity to produce goods and its need for labor.

      As long as we mind these limits, a UBI is entirely consistent with traditional price stability goals / need not cause inflation.

      My colleagues and I have published working papers online that go into the theory and mechanics of UBI in detail.

      http://www.greshm.org/resources

    9. ElvisArcher on

      To be clear, that is more than 10x what the fed collects in income tax annually.

    10. Methodical_Science on

      These tech leaders literally don’t even realize the hyperbolic garbage they spew out about AI’s capabilities, growth and the timeline to get to superintelligence. Every failure and missed deadline is somehow just a minor blip/setback.

      If it was at least to pump up your stock price, while still bad, at least there’s a rational reason.

      These guys actually believe what they’re saying is true, which is so much worse.

    11. RampantTyr on

      Targeted government assistance and Medicare for all is feasible now. That doesn’t mean oligarchs or our authoritarian government will do it.

    12. One_Put50 on

      Former open ai head spews garbage comment that triggers the poors and non technocrat masses.

      Some of these people need to be Marie Antoinetted for thier „let them eat cake“ style comments

    14. Ok_Belt2521 on

      Unless this guy has some kind of legislative roadmap to get UBI I don’t really care what he has to say. All sorts of things are “feasible” but will never pass into law.

    15. ASaneDude on

      VCs be like: “Or….and hear me out now, 100 people can get $1B monthly!”

    16. Kitakitakita on

      Feasible? Of course. Actually convincing the dumbfucks to implement it? Lol no.

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