It is just a conversation as he says, but let’s not beat around the bush, it is purely sexism.
Not so long ago, someone in our local Facebook group had someone elses parcel.
I wrote „Have you had a look to find the address and pop it round? This is what I do when I get someone elses parcel“.
The first response from the poster was „Yeah, no thank you for the mansplaining please“.
I feel I would have been banned from the group if the roles were reversed and I responded to a woman with „I don’t need advice from a woman“.
crapusername47 on
And he’d be correct. It’s usually used in an attempt to shut down male opinions when operating under the arrogant assumption that a man couldn’t possibly know more about something than a woman does.
OldGuto on
Am I going to have to mansplain to him what mansplaining is?
Min_sora on
He’s got the definition of mansplaining wrong but I don’t think I’ve seen anyone use the word correctly for years (‚gaslight‘ has fast gone the same way) so it does feel pretty pointless now.
BEETHR33 on
I personally find a lot of women use the word when a man explains anything, condescending or not. The term is so overused.
I’ve even been told I’m mansplaining when I’ve literally been asked to explain something.
Ill_Refrigerator_593 on
I find a lot of women misunderstand the term „mansplaining“.
I often have to describe what it means to them in great detail.
ta0029271 on
Not sure if this is related but I have noticed that some women really hate any form of help from a man, they seem to assume they’re being treated different. What they don’t realise is that most men help each other out all the time, give each other a hand up, hold a ladder, help lifting something heavy. I’ve been in the fire service and it was certainly true there.
goonercaIIum on
Terms like this often have a place but, given how stupid the average person is, when they’re taken up en masse they’re rarely actually used when it’s warranted.
FatFarter69 on
Mansplaining is a stupid term, I prefer the term “guys who talk down to people”. Those people certainly exist, I’ve know some guys who talk down to people, especially women, because they think they are better than them.
But I’ve also known plenty of women who talk down to men in the exact same way. I don’t understand why some people decide to gender it by calling it “mansplaining”. That’s just daft, people of any and all genders can be arrogant know it alls who see themselves as above other people.
DAAMblueday on
Mainsplaining is definitely a sexist term but I’m already prepared for the downvotes because “you can’t be sexist towards men”.
BaBeBaBeBooby on
The backlash against the all the -ism’s is gaining momentum
ConstantPurpose2419 on
He says mansplaining means “explaining things in a boring way”, which absolutely is not what mansplaining is.
pullingteeths on
It’s only unfair when it’s used incorrectly by people who don’t understand the meaning of it
saviouroftheweak on
I’m sure this sub Reddit demographic will have some insights
Tom22174 on
It’s one of those words that had a useful meaning at one point but now more often gets used to dismiss people out of hand
InfectedFrenulum on
Every time I hear the word ‚mansplaining‘ I’m always taken back to this exchange.
So he is a comedian and in part what he said was a joke, but he is right in that men do normally communicate with each other in this way. I’m sure there’s lots of social reasons behind it such as men’s worth being tied to how much they bring to the table (skills, money, influence, problem solving, etc.) and explaining something they know is literally just fulfilling that social contract and expectation.
Dismissing mansplaining therefore is a lot more damaging than it first seems. It’s essentially saying “the only thing that gives you value no longer gives you value”.
It’s always assumed ill or hostile intent, and I guess when you are fighting for value or recognition it can sometimes be that way.
We should probably work on deconstructing unnecessary gender roles or societal expectations rather than furthering them.
But I guess this will just come across as mansplaining and my desire for a kinder world will be mistaken as a hostile take over
double-happiness on
Cuts both ways doesn’t it, like my (boomer feminist) mother attempting to talk down to me about how circumcision is supposedly a good thing, whilst not having the faintest idea what she was talking about or having done the slightest bit of research, and this after years of ranting about FGM for whatever reason (no idea what she thought I was supposed to do about that).
icantstillbedrunkat5 on
I’m not even going to lie a lot of the comments on here from men are pretty funny because a lot of the time you don’t even realise you’re talking down to us- a lot of women will have the experience where you try to joke with a man and he explains it to you like you’re stupid instead, or he explains it in a way that he would never do to a fellow man. Obviously not all, but it happens and denying it because you as a bloke have never experienced it does no good either.
Acrobatic-Pudding-87 on
The original intended meaning of the term was fine, but like so many neologisms it quickly got misused by people who didn’t really understand it and the meaning ended up far removed from what it was meant to be. At first it just meant “when a man condescendingly explains something to a woman who knows more about the subject than him”, then it became “when a man condescendingly explains something to any woman” and now it’s just “when a man explains something to a woman (which the connotation that this is rude/insulting)”. The current misuse of the word is ridiculous, because sometimes it’s perfectly valid for a man to explain something to a woman. That doesn’t need a special word: “explain” is sufficient.
el-peor on
„I wouldn’t have to man-splain if you weren’t wom-incorrect“
PartyPoison98 on
Overall its just an unnecessary word when we already had one – condescending.
I think there are absolutely men who are condescending to women in the way they explain stuff. There are also plenty of women who are condescending to men in treating them like children that are incapable of proper thought. Being rude is a unisex activity.
i-readit2 on
David Mitchell says the term mansplaining is unfair. And describes why in under 25,000 words
Captain-Griffen on
„Mansplaining“ as the phenomenon of „unqualified man explaining to highly qualified woman her area of expertise“ is a very useful term.
I would say it’s used correctly like 1% of the time, though. Another good word murdered by idiots.
hadawayandshite on
I don’t mansplain- I’m patronising to everyone- it’s a character flaw rather than sexism
alwaysright0 on
David Mitchell presents himself as very intelligent. Its very odd he doesn’t understand what mansplaining is
Awkward_Leopard_6021 on
What started out as a man explaining something to an expert in that field / knows far more than the man – morphed into a word used negatively for a man just explaining something.
It’s safer just to explain stuff to men tbf half of our conversations are trying to say the last bit of a sentence to show we also know what we are talking about
Twybaydos on
Mansplaining pure and simple- this is the phenomenon where a man wrongly assumes he knows something that a woman would not and then explains it to her in patronising detail with zero self-awareness. You should look out for it now you know!
(From Richard Herring)
Fickle_Ad4967 on
Let’s face it. Most people think everybody else is stupid. Most people think they know more about ‘anything’ than everybody else. At least that’s the way it appears.
Mainsplaining. Womoaning
Using those worlds also a way to denigrate the opposite.
JustChris40 on
He’s right, though celebrity endorsement doesn’t add any weight to what used to be common sense.
Dismal-Log2823 on
It’s only unfair when the term is misused. Mitchell is overlooking the sexism element when he says ‚mansplaining‘ is simply boring ‚conversation‘ that men do to other men too. Mansplaining only occurs when a man assumes, either consciously or based on unconscious bias, that a woman (who may have more experience than him) lacks knowledge/competence due to her gender. This is something frequently experienced by women in male-dominated professions. Obviously the mere act of explaining something to a woman is not sexist, and anyone who uses the term that way is simply wrong.
Several-Support2201 on
My husband can be a bit ‚mansplainy‘ but he’s on the spectrum and is very enthusiastic about sharing his knowledge/interests, without necessarily picking up on whether other people are interested or already are aware of the information he’s sharing. I do wonder sometimes the overlap between men dubbed as mansplainers and neuro diversity.
Subtleiaint on
I adore Mitchell but if he has a flaw I can easily believe it being mansplaining. He loves things and he loves explaining things, it would be easy to cross over into condescension.
salphus on
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I recall mansplaining originally being used to describe this scenario:
Woman brings up a point in a meeting/ conversation.
No one really pays attention.
Man then goes on to say what the woman has just said, in a slightly different way, or in a bit more detail, possibly even addressing the woman directly.
Everyone pays attention as if the man came up with the point, leaving the woman sidelined and annoyed.
Mansplaining isn’t every instance of a man explaining something to a woman.
BarbaricOklahoma on
Tbf, for a comedian who’s entire shtick is acting irrationally frustrated and ranting condescendingly, this is an unsurprising headline
Actual_Nectarine9141 on
I’ve always thought you could understand ‚mansplaining‘, in a lot of cases, as actually men trying to impress women, or be useful to them, because they seek women’s approval. Maybe they get it wrong, but I don’t think on the whole their motivation is aggressive or patronising. Kind of the opposite in fact.
SnooOpinions8790 on
The term was invented to be divisive
We already had the perfectly adequate word patronise that anyone could use. The only problem with that word is that it can equally well apply to women and so a new word that could only be used against men got invented.
The word is sexist in its conception and use.
TRDPorn on
Anyone who seriously uses the term is just a horrible sexist
Commercial_Nature_28 on
I was once accused of mansplaining by a date I had. She literally asked me a question and I gave my opinion speaking to her like I would anyone else.
Needless to say, I left pretty quickly . Funnily enough she messaged me later asking for a second date.
Efficient-County2382 on
He’s correct, it’s one of the problems of modern western society. Everything is over-analysed, given names, people try to control you through shaming and gaslighting. Reality is it’s just normal humans having conversations.
Icy_Drive_7433 on
The thing I’ve learned most from this is that a lot of people can’t even agree what „mansplaining“ is.
Whatsmyageagain24 on
Newsflash: women womensplain too. You come across PEOPLE like this all the time.
DigbyGibbers on
Words like this are quite useful for detecting those infected with the mind virus. The quicker you can spot them the quicker you can make sure you isolate yourself from them.
Tuskarrr on
It’s interesting the type of people that use this sexist term are the ones that like to present themselves as the most tolerant. I don’t know why it’s so out of the question for some people to simply not be bigoted at all, regardless of your target.
No-Mixture6084 on
I love David Mitchell but have you fucking heard him talk about stuff? Of course he doesn’t like the term mansplaining, it’s basically his act.
Goosepond01 on
Yeah I’ve always hated terms like that because they always get abused.
I know 100% there are people who will view women as lesser and think they have no understanding of things, especially typically ‚manly‘ things and obviously that is bad, but the thing is there are just lots of people who are very very condecending or maybe they don’t even mean anything bad by it.
now most of the time it’s even slightly plausible that they are doing it they must be some woman hating nutjob, instead of maybe someone who is a little rude or maybe doesn’t have the best social skills or just assumed something wrong.
SASColfer on
The original defition for mansplaining is still valid by hopefully it happens a lot less. The ways it’s used by a lot of people these days is just casual sexism.
Noisy-neighbour on
We recently had equality training at work and the woman providing the training asked us to say sexist phrases. ‚man up‘, ‚time of the month‘ and ‚mansplaining‘ were mentioned amongst others, to which she replied that ‚mansplaining‘ is not a sexist term. Well, needless to say I replied with ‚listen here sugar tits, I wouldn’t expect a dumb broad to understand anyway‘
cestabhi on
Man who loves to explain everything doesn’t like being told off for it lol.
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It is just a conversation as he says, but let’s not beat around the bush, it is purely sexism.
Not so long ago, someone in our local Facebook group had someone elses parcel.
I wrote „Have you had a look to find the address and pop it round? This is what I do when I get someone elses parcel“.
The first response from the poster was „Yeah, no thank you for the mansplaining please“.
I feel I would have been banned from the group if the roles were reversed and I responded to a woman with „I don’t need advice from a woman“.
And he’d be correct. It’s usually used in an attempt to shut down male opinions when operating under the arrogant assumption that a man couldn’t possibly know more about something than a woman does.
Am I going to have to mansplain to him what mansplaining is?
He’s got the definition of mansplaining wrong but I don’t think I’ve seen anyone use the word correctly for years (‚gaslight‘ has fast gone the same way) so it does feel pretty pointless now.
I personally find a lot of women use the word when a man explains anything, condescending or not. The term is so overused.
I’ve even been told I’m mansplaining when I’ve literally been asked to explain something.
I find a lot of women misunderstand the term „mansplaining“.
I often have to describe what it means to them in great detail.
Not sure if this is related but I have noticed that some women really hate any form of help from a man, they seem to assume they’re being treated different. What they don’t realise is that most men help each other out all the time, give each other a hand up, hold a ladder, help lifting something heavy. I’ve been in the fire service and it was certainly true there.
Terms like this often have a place but, given how stupid the average person is, when they’re taken up en masse they’re rarely actually used when it’s warranted.
Mansplaining is a stupid term, I prefer the term “guys who talk down to people”. Those people certainly exist, I’ve know some guys who talk down to people, especially women, because they think they are better than them.
But I’ve also known plenty of women who talk down to men in the exact same way. I don’t understand why some people decide to gender it by calling it “mansplaining”. That’s just daft, people of any and all genders can be arrogant know it alls who see themselves as above other people.
Mainsplaining is definitely a sexist term but I’m already prepared for the downvotes because “you can’t be sexist towards men”.
The backlash against the all the -ism’s is gaining momentum
He says mansplaining means “explaining things in a boring way”, which absolutely is not what mansplaining is.
It’s only unfair when it’s used incorrectly by people who don’t understand the meaning of it
I’m sure this sub Reddit demographic will have some insights
It’s one of those words that had a useful meaning at one point but now more often gets used to dismiss people out of hand
Every time I hear the word ‚mansplaining‘ I’m always taken back to this exchange.
https://youtu.be/ZOXh5repOWI?si=2aPTH33WeB5av64y
So he is a comedian and in part what he said was a joke, but he is right in that men do normally communicate with each other in this way. I’m sure there’s lots of social reasons behind it such as men’s worth being tied to how much they bring to the table (skills, money, influence, problem solving, etc.) and explaining something they know is literally just fulfilling that social contract and expectation.
Dismissing mansplaining therefore is a lot more damaging than it first seems. It’s essentially saying “the only thing that gives you value no longer gives you value”.
It’s always assumed ill or hostile intent, and I guess when you are fighting for value or recognition it can sometimes be that way.
We should probably work on deconstructing unnecessary gender roles or societal expectations rather than furthering them.
But I guess this will just come across as mansplaining and my desire for a kinder world will be mistaken as a hostile take over
Cuts both ways doesn’t it, like my (boomer feminist) mother attempting to talk down to me about how circumcision is supposedly a good thing, whilst not having the faintest idea what she was talking about or having done the slightest bit of research, and this after years of ranting about FGM for whatever reason (no idea what she thought I was supposed to do about that).
I’m not even going to lie a lot of the comments on here from men are pretty funny because a lot of the time you don’t even realise you’re talking down to us- a lot of women will have the experience where you try to joke with a man and he explains it to you like you’re stupid instead, or he explains it in a way that he would never do to a fellow man. Obviously not all, but it happens and denying it because you as a bloke have never experienced it does no good either.
The original intended meaning of the term was fine, but like so many neologisms it quickly got misused by people who didn’t really understand it and the meaning ended up far removed from what it was meant to be. At first it just meant “when a man condescendingly explains something to a woman who knows more about the subject than him”, then it became “when a man condescendingly explains something to any woman” and now it’s just “when a man explains something to a woman (which the connotation that this is rude/insulting)”. The current misuse of the word is ridiculous, because sometimes it’s perfectly valid for a man to explain something to a woman. That doesn’t need a special word: “explain” is sufficient.
„I wouldn’t have to man-splain if you weren’t wom-incorrect“
Overall its just an unnecessary word when we already had one – condescending.
I think there are absolutely men who are condescending to women in the way they explain stuff. There are also plenty of women who are condescending to men in treating them like children that are incapable of proper thought. Being rude is a unisex activity.
David Mitchell says the term mansplaining is unfair. And describes why in under 25,000 words
„Mansplaining“ as the phenomenon of „unqualified man explaining to highly qualified woman her area of expertise“ is a very useful term.
I would say it’s used correctly like 1% of the time, though. Another good word murdered by idiots.
I don’t mansplain- I’m patronising to everyone- it’s a character flaw rather than sexism
David Mitchell presents himself as very intelligent. Its very odd he doesn’t understand what mansplaining is
What started out as a man explaining something to an expert in that field / knows far more than the man – morphed into a word used negatively for a man just explaining something.
It’s safer just to explain stuff to men tbf half of our conversations are trying to say the last bit of a sentence to show we also know what we are talking about
Mansplaining pure and simple- this is the phenomenon where a man wrongly assumes he knows something that a woman would not and then explains it to her in patronising detail with zero self-awareness. You should look out for it now you know!
(From Richard Herring)
Let’s face it. Most people think everybody else is stupid. Most people think they know more about ‘anything’ than everybody else. At least that’s the way it appears.
Mainsplaining. Womoaning
Using those worlds also a way to denigrate the opposite.
He’s right, though celebrity endorsement doesn’t add any weight to what used to be common sense.
It’s only unfair when the term is misused. Mitchell is overlooking the sexism element when he says ‚mansplaining‘ is simply boring ‚conversation‘ that men do to other men too. Mansplaining only occurs when a man assumes, either consciously or based on unconscious bias, that a woman (who may have more experience than him) lacks knowledge/competence due to her gender. This is something frequently experienced by women in male-dominated professions. Obviously the mere act of explaining something to a woman is not sexist, and anyone who uses the term that way is simply wrong.
My husband can be a bit ‚mansplainy‘ but he’s on the spectrum and is very enthusiastic about sharing his knowledge/interests, without necessarily picking up on whether other people are interested or already are aware of the information he’s sharing. I do wonder sometimes the overlap between men dubbed as mansplainers and neuro diversity.
I adore Mitchell but if he has a flaw I can easily believe it being mansplaining. He loves things and he loves explaining things, it would be easy to cross over into condescension.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I recall mansplaining originally being used to describe this scenario:
Woman brings up a point in a meeting/ conversation.
No one really pays attention.
Man then goes on to say what the woman has just said, in a slightly different way, or in a bit more detail, possibly even addressing the woman directly.
Everyone pays attention as if the man came up with the point, leaving the woman sidelined and annoyed.
Mansplaining isn’t every instance of a man explaining something to a woman.
Tbf, for a comedian who’s entire shtick is acting irrationally frustrated and ranting condescendingly, this is an unsurprising headline
I’ve always thought you could understand ‚mansplaining‘, in a lot of cases, as actually men trying to impress women, or be useful to them, because they seek women’s approval. Maybe they get it wrong, but I don’t think on the whole their motivation is aggressive or patronising. Kind of the opposite in fact.
The term was invented to be divisive
We already had the perfectly adequate word patronise that anyone could use. The only problem with that word is that it can equally well apply to women and so a new word that could only be used against men got invented.
The word is sexist in its conception and use.
Anyone who seriously uses the term is just a horrible sexist
I was once accused of mansplaining by a date I had. She literally asked me a question and I gave my opinion speaking to her like I would anyone else.
Needless to say, I left pretty quickly . Funnily enough she messaged me later asking for a second date.
He’s correct, it’s one of the problems of modern western society. Everything is over-analysed, given names, people try to control you through shaming and gaslighting. Reality is it’s just normal humans having conversations.
The thing I’ve learned most from this is that a lot of people can’t even agree what „mansplaining“ is.
Newsflash: women womensplain too. You come across PEOPLE like this all the time.
Words like this are quite useful for detecting those infected with the mind virus. The quicker you can spot them the quicker you can make sure you isolate yourself from them.
It’s interesting the type of people that use this sexist term are the ones that like to present themselves as the most tolerant. I don’t know why it’s so out of the question for some people to simply not be bigoted at all, regardless of your target.
I love David Mitchell but have you fucking heard him talk about stuff? Of course he doesn’t like the term mansplaining, it’s basically his act.
Yeah I’ve always hated terms like that because they always get abused.
I know 100% there are people who will view women as lesser and think they have no understanding of things, especially typically ‚manly‘ things and obviously that is bad, but the thing is there are just lots of people who are very very condecending or maybe they don’t even mean anything bad by it.
now most of the time it’s even slightly plausible that they are doing it they must be some woman hating nutjob, instead of maybe someone who is a little rude or maybe doesn’t have the best social skills or just assumed something wrong.
The original defition for mansplaining is still valid by hopefully it happens a lot less. The ways it’s used by a lot of people these days is just casual sexism.
We recently had equality training at work and the woman providing the training asked us to say sexist phrases. ‚man up‘, ‚time of the month‘ and ‚mansplaining‘ were mentioned amongst others, to which she replied that ‚mansplaining‘ is not a sexist term. Well, needless to say I replied with ‚listen here sugar tits, I wouldn’t expect a dumb broad to understand anyway‘
Man who loves to explain everything doesn’t like being told off for it lol.