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    4. juksbox on

      From the article:

      >The reason for the plan is external pressure — the commander [of Karelia Air Wing, Colonel Tomi Böhm] said the Air Force has faced awkward situations, for instance, when working with Americans.

      >“We could have continued with this flag, but sometimes awkward situations can arise with foreign visitors. It may be wise to live with the times,“ Böhm said.

      […]

      >The swastika emblem was adopted by the Air Force in 1918, long before the German Nazi Party adopted it in the 1930s. Its use is now illegal or restricted in Germany and many other countries. The Finnish Air Force used it on aircraft until 1945. The swastika was added to flags in the 1950s.

    5. Downtown-Act-590 on

      This is a wrong step.

      They have it for a different reason then the Nazis and it is a symbol of the air force that fought for their independence from the oppressors.

      Don’t let the Nazis win this one.

    7. SekoitettuTripla on

      „problematic“ but not problematic enough for Stalin (or anyone after him) to ask for it’s removal. Didn’t also stop the Soviets from selling them Mig-21s

    8. boobookittyfuwk on

      The nazis really f’d it up for everyone didn’t they. It’s actually a cool looking symbol, something about its style and shape and uniformity is appealing to the eye.

    11. aerodynamik on

      its an unfortunate but propably necessary step.
      anything that can be misconstrued by bad faith media as „THEY B NAZIS!!!1!1“ needs to be considered.

    12. Stormblush on

      This decision isn’t about Finland forgetting its past, it’s about recognizing that in diplomacy, perception outweighs intent.

    13. tofiwashere on

      I guess it is better this way. The explaining will just never end, and since we have more and more cooperation with the Americans (and others), it just gets annoying. They aren’t exactly known for caring about other countries‘ history, and even if they were, it’s not fair to assume someone would know the Finnish Air Force has had the swastika since the very first plane in March 1918.

      I don’t at least have such sentimental feelings towards one logo that I have hang on it forever. I didn’t serve in the Air Force either and understand if other folks have different feelings.

    15. BrotherRoga on

      Personally it doesnt matter to me what the symbol is.

      At least this way idiots won’t have the freebie they believe they have.

    16. Nvrmnde on

      I bet they got tired of explaining it’s history over and over. Easier this way.

    17. YahenP on

      How tired I am of these hurray-fighters-against-Nazism, looking for a pretext everywhere. Let’s also ban the German language. To be sure to defeat the Nazi hydra. It is, of course, not as ancient and widespread as the swastika, but it is also not bad.

    18. Financial_Building_9 on

      Sensible choice and amazing example for Ukrainian state to stop using bandera, upa and ss-galizien symbols in their country defending it as purely patriotic. 

    19. KAPULAX2 on

      This is stupid, I hope alt-right, 4chan nazis, whatever starts using rainbow flag so it too can be remembered as hate symbol

    20. ConfusedAdmin53 on

      Easier to change the identifier of an entire air force than educating Americans. 😂

    21. Caboucada on

      It is quite a bad time to do this as these symbols are becoming fashionable again.

    23. dat_9600gt_user on

      **The new commander of the Karelia Air Wing said the swastika symbol has put the Finnish Air Force in „awkward situations“.**

      Finnish Air Force plans to remove swastikas from the flags of its units, said the new commander of the Karelia Air Wing, Colonel **Tomi Böhm**.

      The reason for the plan is external pressure — the commander said the Air Force has faced awkward situations, for instance, when working with Americans.

      „We could have continued with this flag, but sometimes awkward situations can arise with foreign visitors. It may be wise to live with the times,“ Böhm said.

      According to Böhm, a flag reform is currently underway in the Air Force, during which the removal of swastikas is being considered. He said he has personally been involved in preparing the change.

      The Air Force headquarters has already removed the swastika from use. Böhm cannot say when swastikas will be removed from the unit flags, but he hopes it will happen during his tenure as commander.

      „The world has changed, and we live according to the times. There has been no political pressure to do this,“ he said.

      The swastika emblem was adopted by the Air Force in 1918, long before the German Nazi Party adopted it in the 1930s. Its use is now illegal or restricted in Germany and many other countries. The Finnish Air Force used it on aircraft until 1945. The swastika was added to flags in the 1950s.

      The swastika is generally condemned worldwide because it is mainly associated with the atrocities of Nazi Germany and modern hate groups. In Finland, discussion about the Air Force’s swastika has recently been in the spotlight due to the book *Hakaristin historia* (History of the Swastika) by professor of world politics **Teivo Teivainen**.

      It was reported a few years ago that Finland’s government may introduce [legislation banning the swastika](https://yle.fi/a/74-20046194), as part of a proposal by a working group tasked with finding measures to tackle racism and discrimination in Finland.

    25. ThisI5N0tAThr0waway on

      In their defense, they have been using it since before the Nazi party even existed (1918 vs early 1920s)… But that change is probably for the better and and honestly overdue.

    26. HIK-13 on

      Yeah, let’s not give the great nazi hunter Vladimir Wiesenthaler anymore propaganda-ammo.

    27. The_AmazingCapybara on

      Really gutted about this decision. That swastika logo fought against nazis in the Lapland war.

    28. Living-Recording5012 on

      I’m surprised they still had something like that, especially with their past alliance. I get it was the enemy of my enemy time for them, but still.

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