Der polnische Präsident lehnt die Änderung der Ukrainer ohne offizielle Beschäftigung ab
Polish President Rejects Aid Amendment for Ukrainians Without Official Employment
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Der polnische Präsident lehnt die Änderung der Ukrainer ohne offizielle Beschäftigung ab
Polish President Rejects Aid Amendment for Ukrainians Without Official Employment
Von madever
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It should be noted that this was also proposed by the „relatively liberal” candidate (Rafał) as well. Saying this as someone who despises Nawrocki, I actually don’t disagree with this move.
Common sense
So what, competition for jobs isn’t enough for him? He’d be better off cracking down harder on the exploitation of migrants by his beloved Polish farmers, or on other industries where inhumane working conditions are the norm. And now those conditions will only get worse. What blatant populism.
It will also affect starlink stations that Poland rent for Ukraine, according to Krzysztof Gawkowski
https://x.com/KGawkowski/status/1959934326935613896
Most Ukrainians work anyways! They are carrying Poland by a lot right now!
Well, almost €200 per child is a bit of a burden for a country like Poland. Plus, promoting rather controversial laws won’t help with the general sense of social injustice that many Poles seem to feel. Maybe this should be thought through in conjunction with EU financial aid programs.
Global far-right is cancer
Even though I don’t stand up for Nawrocki, I don’t disagree with this.
However, on the other hand, this is playing into the hands of the latent-ish tension between Ukrainians and Poles.
Is he some kind of medium, listening to the whispers in the wind on the streets..?
*“socio-political emotions“*
The argument should never be about emotions but about the feasibility of leading a life in the country (even in a time of crisis) and supporting and investing in the next generation to become their best possible selves
And especially refugees should be integrated in society through kindergarten, school but they also need their parents, especially should one of them be far away or dead. Humans have needs to properly function!
This is interesting because most of them are already working. So, for the Ukrainians themselves, this won’t change much. The ones who will suffer are the entrepreneurs who employ Ukrainians off the books, because they will have to offer them formal employment contracts. But president can now say that he save Poland.
Imagine having a perfect population to assimilate, boost our economy and demography, with similar culture and heritage and fk it up so bad.
Ukrainians have been a blessing for our country and now because of fear and prejudice we will undo it.
The President of Poland, Karol Navrotsky, announced that he did not sign the amendment to the law on aid to Ukrainian citizens. He argued that the 800+ payments should be received only by Ukrainians who are officially employed in Poland, not by all residents. Such statements were made in the context of explanations after consultations with the government.
>*“after 3.5 years, the financial situation and socio-political emotions have fundamentally changed”* – Karol Navrotsky
Navrotsky noted that changes in budget planning and public sentiment reflect the face of the situation, but the amendment itself was not submitted to the law in the proposed edition.
The amendment to the law provided for extending temporary protection until March 4, 2026, and clarified the conditions for paying 800+, including the inclusion of children who finished secondary school and are now in education or in qualification courses.
# Context of the Decision and the Government’s Position
>*I believe we need to achieve here some form of social justice. Poles in their own country should be treated at least on par with our guests from Ukraine. This is fundamental to me, so I did not sign the law to aid Ukrainian citizens in this form”* – Karol Navrotsky
According to the president, he also proposed his own bill on this issue and urged the government and Parliament to work quickly on it for two weeks to align on the next steps.
>*“I urge the government and all parties in Parliament to work diligently for two weeks on the form of this bill”* – Karol Navrotsky
The head of the president’s chancellery, Zbigniew Bogucki, explained that current decisions on aid to Ukrainians remain in effect until the end of September. He stressed that parliament should pass the bill in the form prepared so that the president can sign it immediately.
>*“Therefore we urge that this bill be adopted by the Polish Parliament by the end of September. If it is passed in the form we prepared, the president will be able to sign it immediately. We want to work together and negotiate despite differences to ensure the passage of this bill by the Polish Parliament by the end of September”* – Zbigniew Bogucki
The deputy head of the chancellery, Zbigniew Bogucki, added that Ukrainians who legally work in Poland, reside there, and pay taxes should not worry about their status.
>*“for Ukrainians who legally work in Poland, reside, run their own business, and pay taxes, there is nothing to worry about”* – Zbigniew Bogucki
Currently the “Rodzina 800+” program continues to pay 800 zlotys per child under 18 to families of Ukrainian origin who legally reside in the country. From June 1, 2025, for children who arrived after February 24, 2022, payments depend on mandatory attendance at a Polish school; failure to comply with this requirement may lead to suspension of payments.
Now here’s a piece of shit of astronomical caliber. What is the state of Poland for such a moron to become president?
I find it truly inspiring how Poles are always very in favour of solidarity when it means that they get another ten billion € in EU funds from the pockets of German and French taxpayers but suddenly find a million problems with the concept once it is time to extend a tiny bit of that generosity towards a neighbourly population that has a genocidal war waged against it 🙂
But yet Polish Farmers who are on KRUS and do not pay a dime in income tax, add to the social security fund(ZUS), and do not pay a dime to healthcare(NFZ) are ok right pimp?
Explanation for those not in the know- 800+ is a program with a supposed goal of incentivising childbirth, government aid for each child under 18, 800zł per month (little less than 200 euro). No income cutoff, nothing. „Free“ cash to spend on whatever you want. Did it work and are we making more babies ? No. On the contrary. It did work on the other, real goal. Bought PiS 8 years of total domination, and taking it away would be suicide for the next guys. It’s expensive, it doesn’t really help, and it’s gonna stay. So the same guys are once again trying to use it for political gains, this time by playing to the anti immigrant crowd.
And now we’re here. The change is not bad per se, but circling out immigrants is the problem. Our people should adhere to those rules too. No 800+ unless at least one parent is lawfully employed. That way we wouldn’t get so many alcoholic degenerates that turned babymaking into income source.
Normal people don’t use it that way because properly raising a child is obviously more expensive than what government gives. Not if you don’t care that it’s malnourished, neglected and has no real perspectives. Well, those poeple don’t, and they make bank by breeding like rabbits. You know the type, the project dwellers, day drinkers, brawl starters. Them.
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Shrug
Not only do i think its a common sense change, ill go as far as to say this should be long ago applied nation-wide. Of course neither side will go this far because itll hurt the bottom line