Well, Russia now has a GDP per capita of 20 thousand, not 14, because the IMF uses the old forecast exchange rate, and not the one that exists now.
AuramiteEX on
GDP is a flawed measure. Use PPP to measure.
FCCO on
1st and 15th places are surprising with their stability
GinofromUkraine on
I guess on Reddit it’s not necessary to point out how far down Russia would be without oil, gas, gold, diamonds, coal etc. etc. that they simply extract and ship abroad? All of which Baltics do not have… On the other hand, without those natural resources there would be no Putin and no imperial ambitions, no wars with neighbors etc. Maybe they would even have a more or less democratic government. That damned resource curse…
BlueHeartbeat on
The outlier here seems Azerbaijan to me, aside for Ukraine that is dragged down by the war.
edit: I think people misunderstood me, I’m actually saying Azerbaijan, while it has improved, still underperforms. All countries are sort of grouped by geography: Baltics, Caspian, Caucasus, East Europe, Tian Shan/Pamir. Azerbaijan should be closer to Georgia and Armenia (the latter doesn’t even have sea access).
lfuckingknow on
Estonia is killing it
Mimirovitch on
This is a very flawed analysis of this document.
LeoLH1994 on
Surprised that Azerbaijan is so low when it is an oil economy, but it probably has a major wealth gap and apparently many were below the poverty line in 2012,
CheekTemporary8939 on
The most important “data” is that people of these countries have made it very clear numerous times that the russian way is not our way
Mandemon90 on
Meanwhile, tankies will keep insisting that Baltics are „shitholes“ and they no longer have any industry.
fredleung412612 on
How was Turkmenistan so comparatively rich in 1995?
Bobylein on
I don’t want to argue about the politics part but isn’t choosing 1995 just 4 years after dissolution of the Soviet Union, the structure in which their economies existed, a bit of a bad comparing point?
Or what exactly is meant with the „european or russian“ dichotomy?
GeorgiaWitness1 on
I have been in Georgia for a couple of years now.
It’s developing fast, and already has a good level of development, truly impressive
Mikeeexerxert on
How about Kazakhstan pretty sure it isn’t Russian or European or Chinese way.
mylittlecrusader on
Love how Armenia is still doing great despite being bullied by Turkey and Azerbaijan
pabra on
Looking at Russia – let me guess – the price of oil from 1995 to 2025 increased by a factor of 6, right?
D1nkcool on
The most shocking thing here to me is actually how different the numbers are for the Central Asian countries in 1995.
RamTank on
Okay, but what’s Kazakhstan doing right?
Kubczi on
What about Poland?
Kaloyanicus on
Yes but the GDP per Capita is not the best indicator. By that logic the Irish way would have been the best lol.
P.S: I love Ireland, one of the best lads in the world! BIG HEARTS!
soldat21 on
But GDP PPP per capita (2025).
Estonia * 49,671 2025
Russia * 49,383 2025
Using this metric, the table kinda stayed the same (except Ukraine).
stroibot on
For people it’s good going democracy way. Sure it’s flawed, but generally speaking, most of population is better off this way.
If you are a small group who wants to be rich and hold all the power, the soviet way is better, people don’t matter here that much.
Simple as that.
You are saying it like no one knows this.
Loki-L on
By the ranking alone it doesn’t seem like a big change. The Baltic nations went for 1st, 4th and 5th to 1st, 2nd and 3rd while Russia went from 2nd to 4th.
If you give Ukraine a pass for „external factors“ affecting their 2025 standing, I think the main takeaway is to not be like Belarus.
ArmadilloMogul on
Estonia has done an incredible job since breaking from Soviet rule—unlike Ukraine’s struggle. But the reality is bleak: Estonia feels like an innocent man on death row, working hard, keeping in shape, being the model citizen—yet execution still looms. They’ve done everything right, but without stronger backing, it’s still a no-win situation. Frankly, Estonia should be an American state. Get the protection and the possibility to bloom further. ( joking )
Beyllionaire on
GDP per Capita is completely useless as a metric.
Anywhere_everywhere7 on
Now look at cost of living in each country to see how far money actually goes.
Pulikugyus on
And the Kazakh way💪💪🇰🇿🇰🇿
Greatest post-Soviet country beside the Baltics, all other countries are inferior
SvalbardCats on
Comments didn’t surprise me at all. The domination of negative, cynical, and pretext-seeking reactions in this post about the improvement of the Baltics clearly indicates the rise of Euroscepticism and why „European solidarity“ is pretty much questionable.
Haters are gonna keep finding excuses to fling mud, such as population or the EU subsidizing, as if the Baltics were the only countries in the EU like that. Vatniks? I am not even tiring my fingers to take them seriously and slap them with counterarguments.
Spackolos on
What exactly do they produce?
Complete_Item9216 on
It’s shocking how bad ruzzia was already in 1995. It inherited all the natural resources and that overwhelming majority of assets on the Soviet Union. It did nothing with them, just enriched few individuals and concentrated the wealth with the few people who hold it to this date.
On top of it ruzzia has had decayed of artificially reducing and sabotaging opportunities in its “satellite” states and artificially creating hubs for education and production in its core major cities.
Despite this the Baltic countries were already neck and neck with GDP per capita in 1995. Ruzzia is really, really bad at generating any returns to its subjects.
YahenP on
GDP per capita. hmm… here is another question how to calculate this population. For countries like Armenia or Latvia, the method of counting the population can have a very significant impact on the indicator.
It’s not that this would fundamentally change the table, but some countries may switch places depending on the method used to count the population.
therealmeteorman on
Long live western Europe!
ghost_desu on
It’s true but gdp per capita is not the way to show it.
skibbidirizzgyat69 on
Capitalism will cause the death of us all but its okay because line went up a little bit (ignore how most of the wealth of post-soviet countries was stolen by western capitalists during the 1990s)
armeniapedia on
Armenia should say +4 not +3
migBdk on
Armenia and Azerbaijan increasing their BNP/population by 20 times.
Not bad.
They also just signed a peace deal in order to cooperate in resisting Russian pressure.
SeikoWIS on
Russophiles will never accept this graph. >angry Russian noises about gay propaganda etc
dworthy444 on
I have to ask: does this data account for inflation? If the value of currency is halved, then nominal GDP doubles, but real GDP is the same. I highly doubt that countries like Georgia have managed to more than double their GDP/capita every 7 years or so.
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What about the Tajik way?
Well, Russia now has a GDP per capita of 20 thousand, not 14, because the IMF uses the old forecast exchange rate, and not the one that exists now.
GDP is a flawed measure. Use PPP to measure.
1st and 15th places are surprising with their stability
I guess on Reddit it’s not necessary to point out how far down Russia would be without oil, gas, gold, diamonds, coal etc. etc. that they simply extract and ship abroad? All of which Baltics do not have… On the other hand, without those natural resources there would be no Putin and no imperial ambitions, no wars with neighbors etc. Maybe they would even have a more or less democratic government. That damned resource curse…
The outlier here seems Azerbaijan to me, aside for Ukraine that is dragged down by the war.
edit: I think people misunderstood me, I’m actually saying Azerbaijan, while it has improved, still underperforms. All countries are sort of grouped by geography: Baltics, Caspian, Caucasus, East Europe, Tian Shan/Pamir. Azerbaijan should be closer to Georgia and Armenia (the latter doesn’t even have sea access).
Estonia is killing it
This is a very flawed analysis of this document.
Surprised that Azerbaijan is so low when it is an oil economy, but it probably has a major wealth gap and apparently many were below the poverty line in 2012,
The most important “data” is that people of these countries have made it very clear numerous times that the russian way is not our way
Meanwhile, tankies will keep insisting that Baltics are „shitholes“ and they no longer have any industry.
How was Turkmenistan so comparatively rich in 1995?
I don’t want to argue about the politics part but isn’t choosing 1995 just 4 years after dissolution of the Soviet Union, the structure in which their economies existed, a bit of a bad comparing point?
Or what exactly is meant with the „european or russian“ dichotomy?
I have been in Georgia for a couple of years now.
It’s developing fast, and already has a good level of development, truly impressive
How about Kazakhstan pretty sure it isn’t Russian or European or Chinese way.
Love how Armenia is still doing great despite being bullied by Turkey and Azerbaijan
Looking at Russia – let me guess – the price of oil from 1995 to 2025 increased by a factor of 6, right?
The most shocking thing here to me is actually how different the numbers are for the Central Asian countries in 1995.
Okay, but what’s Kazakhstan doing right?
What about Poland?
Yes but the GDP per Capita is not the best indicator. By that logic the Irish way would have been the best lol.
P.S: I love Ireland, one of the best lads in the world! BIG HEARTS!
But GDP PPP per capita (2025).
Estonia * 49,671 2025
Russia * 49,383 2025
Using this metric, the table kinda stayed the same (except Ukraine).
For people it’s good going democracy way. Sure it’s flawed, but generally speaking, most of population is better off this way.
If you are a small group who wants to be rich and hold all the power, the soviet way is better, people don’t matter here that much.
Simple as that.
You are saying it like no one knows this.
By the ranking alone it doesn’t seem like a big change. The Baltic nations went for 1st, 4th and 5th to 1st, 2nd and 3rd while Russia went from 2nd to 4th.
If you give Ukraine a pass for „external factors“ affecting their 2025 standing, I think the main takeaway is to not be like Belarus.
Estonia has done an incredible job since breaking from Soviet rule—unlike Ukraine’s struggle. But the reality is bleak: Estonia feels like an innocent man on death row, working hard, keeping in shape, being the model citizen—yet execution still looms. They’ve done everything right, but without stronger backing, it’s still a no-win situation. Frankly, Estonia should be an American state. Get the protection and the possibility to bloom further. ( joking )
GDP per Capita is completely useless as a metric.
Now look at cost of living in each country to see how far money actually goes.
And the Kazakh way💪💪🇰🇿🇰🇿
Greatest post-Soviet country beside the Baltics, all other countries are inferior
Comments didn’t surprise me at all. The domination of negative, cynical, and pretext-seeking reactions in this post about the improvement of the Baltics clearly indicates the rise of Euroscepticism and why „European solidarity“ is pretty much questionable.
Haters are gonna keep finding excuses to fling mud, such as population or the EU subsidizing, as if the Baltics were the only countries in the EU like that. Vatniks? I am not even tiring my fingers to take them seriously and slap them with counterarguments.
What exactly do they produce?
It’s shocking how bad ruzzia was already in 1995. It inherited all the natural resources and that overwhelming majority of assets on the Soviet Union. It did nothing with them, just enriched few individuals and concentrated the wealth with the few people who hold it to this date.
On top of it ruzzia has had decayed of artificially reducing and sabotaging opportunities in its “satellite” states and artificially creating hubs for education and production in its core major cities.
Despite this the Baltic countries were already neck and neck with GDP per capita in 1995. Ruzzia is really, really bad at generating any returns to its subjects.
GDP per capita. hmm… here is another question how to calculate this population. For countries like Armenia or Latvia, the method of counting the population can have a very significant impact on the indicator.
It’s not that this would fundamentally change the table, but some countries may switch places depending on the method used to count the population.
Long live western Europe!
It’s true but gdp per capita is not the way to show it.
Capitalism will cause the death of us all but its okay because line went up a little bit (ignore how most of the wealth of post-soviet countries was stolen by western capitalists during the 1990s)
Armenia should say +4 not +3
Armenia and Azerbaijan increasing their BNP/population by 20 times.
Not bad.
They also just signed a peace deal in order to cooperate in resisting Russian pressure.
Russophiles will never accept this graph. >angry Russian noises about gay propaganda etc
I have to ask: does this data account for inflation? If the value of currency is halved, then nominal GDP doubles, but real GDP is the same. I highly doubt that countries like Georgia have managed to more than double their GDP/capita every 7 years or so.
Tajikistan: as stable as Estonia!
For anyone who want to check other countries, or from a different period: [This is the source.](https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPDPC@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD)
You can add countries to the trend graph, or just download the total excel file.
Russia surpassed Estonia in PPP-based GDP per capita
[https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.KD?end=2024&locations=DE-US-XC-FI-RU-EE&start=1990&view=chart](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.KD?end=2024&locations=DE-US-XC-FI-RU-EE&start=1990&view=chart)
GDP is one thing, but purchasing power is not so good. Estonia growth nicely, but still Tallinn is very expensive compared to even Moscow.