Warum Putin nicht bereit ist, sich mit Zelensky zu treffen, und es kann vielleicht nie sein
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/20/world/why-putin-no-meet-zelensky-analysis-latam-intl
Von JackRogers3
Warum Putin nicht bereit ist, sich mit Zelensky zu treffen, und es kann vielleicht nie sein
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/20/world/why-putin-no-meet-zelensky-analysis-latam-intl
Von JackRogers3
26 Kommentare
>Putin has no reason to acquiesce at this point. Having made zero concessions, he has been rewarded with a grand summit in Alaska, the dropping of a demand by Trump to sign onto a ceasefire before peace talks, and the crumbling of all sanctions ultimatums to date. The only wild card for Russia at this point is who Trump will blame when this latest peace effort fails.
So if this meeting happens –
Putin “will have to accept the failure of sitting down with a president (Zelensky) he considers a joke from a country that doesn’t exist”. (Orysia Lutsevich)
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It was all to make the Europeans happy. Putin has no intention to meet zelensky or to end the war, as long as he feels he still can win. The only powers who can change that are China or the USA and both have clearly no intention to.
Russia won’t stop until (all of) Ukraine has surrendered or his system collapses. No matter the costs.
I like better the explanation by Kamil Galeev of why Putin and Zelenski can’t just sit down and talk.
It’s because Zelenski doesn’t belong to the post-Soviet political caste. He isn’t an oligarch, he has no background in security services. He’s a guy who made a successful sitcom and used his *personal* popularity to get elected.
And that’s absolutely unacceptable to Putin. Because Russians indeed see Ukraine as almost the same people, so if a commoner could just run and get elected, the logical question is why does the Russian president have to be appointed by his precedessor. Why can’t he just be elected.
One should note how Poroshenko was much more hawkish than Zelenski was before 2022, yet Putin had no issues negotiating with Poroshenko while he from the day one refused to talk to Zelenski. Yes, because Poroshenko is an oligarch, and Zelenski is just some guy.
This stupid carnival with „peace talks“ around Trump and all European attention to this in the hope that their problems will just disappear is just painful.
It is not even about Putin and Zelensky. The war is about Russian expansion to Europe. Russia wants to rule over Europe, Yeltsin told Clinton „leave Europe for us‘ in 1999.
Russia will continue until it’s stopped. As it always has been.
Because they are so far apart.
Zelensky want the land back
Pootin wont give it back
What is there to talk about?
When there was a discussion on Reddit about the possibility of a meeting in Alaska, many redditors pointed out that the meeting for Putin was a formal conclusion of the agreements that had already been reached.
If we follow this interpretation, then the meeting between Zelensky and Putin will take place when their assistants, under the control of the Americans, have reached a consensus on key issues.
The article says that Putin will not meet with Zelensky.
I have specifically read the Russian media on this matter.
It writes that Putin said that he could meet with Zelensky, but Zelensky is illegitimate (his status is expired due to the cancellation of the elections, by Putin’s opinion), and the agreement should be signed by Stefanovich (the head of the parliament) and approved by the Ukrainian parliament.
I can hardly imagine how difficult it must be to sit with a smug, lying , mass murderer and listen to him victim blaming … but have to do so ,in order to try and save more of your people from being his victims. And even be forced to reward him for his crimes then see how fast the world drops the sanctions.
As long as Ukraines frontline continues collapsing Russia will never come to the table with any seriousness. Desertions have skyrocketed for the Ukrainians 200k and growing. The manpower shortfalls grow exponentially each day and no amount of aid will curtail that kind of a problem. I don’t think this was something Zelensky could have avoided or something Trump caused because the collapse started back in Bidens term. Russsia would certainly not accept article 5 protections being extended to Ukraine as that would be equivalent to allowing them into NATO which is a non starter for them. Ukraine will need to somehow miraculously stabilize the losses before the end of the year or they could be asked for huge and ridiculous concessions.
I hope Europe finally steps up and stops this „peace talks“ nonsense. Neither party is interested, our goal should be Russia leaving 100% of Ukraine and Ukraine a NATO member, anything less is just defeatism.
Well, the “NPP” just evaporated from his fingers. All he did was waste everyone’s time, and allowed Putin to embarrass America on American soil.
Zelenskyy might just hop over that table and kill him. Putin is a pussy. That’s why.
So…this war will go on, for many many more years. In this time, USA will stop help, India, China, Iran, Brazil will help Russia.
I think putain is physically afraid to come to Zelensky closer than ~50 meters.
It’s all just more stall tactics
Cos he has started that, so why he should want to finish w/o reaching the goals?
Because he is a coward
Так Путин уже сам предложил и это уже обговаривается.
Because Putin cant make a compromisse.
It is Impossible for him, because the war would have been for nothing, If he ends up with the same territories he already had control of, before marching into Ukraine a second time.
And also he sees the will to talk things out as a weakness of the West.
So he only would do it If he thinks he can fool the other person to do his bidding.
That is why he loves talking to Trump
Because he knows Zelensky is not scared of him and he has no leverage over him, and that puts him in a situation he’s not used to.Putin might just loose hes cool and that will show him as weak.
It’s funny how the USA pretends to be some impartial mediator outside party.
How can this be when they are the biggest military supporter of Ukraine?
Pulter probably watcher Godfather and knows how the negotiations will end for him.
It’s not that he isn’t „ready“ to talk to Zelensky. He doesn’t want to, it doesn’t fit with his narrative that Russia is among the big players of global politics along with the US or China say (even if by measures of economics it may not be even remotely close). Talking to the Ukrainian head of state would be like a humiliation in his eyes, its why he only does bilateral meetings with the US to „end the war“, which he’s more likely to take seriously
He doesn’t see Ukraine or the rest of Europe as equals, no matter how delusional we think that is, its just the Kremlin’s state of mind currently
Putin promised victory to the Russian people, not making deals.
Trump wants to remove US from this war and unload the war on EU states, that’s what he is doing. So instead of US giving arms to Ukraine, EU will have to buy US arms and give them to Ukraine. It’s always about money.