The war has shown that the ICC and UN are dead organizations.
OkoMushroom on
Make it official and cancel these international organizations at least you’ll save money.
TheSlacker94 on
You gotta be fucking kidding me. I guess we’re heading straight towards a new world order.
Spinoxys on
Switzerland are the enemy of the people
r_exel on
so the goblins want to hoard some more russian money. got it.
ScheduleFederal869 on
This is not news, because Putin will never agree to „Peace“ talks, unless forced to. He will not meet with Ze because he does not want to legitimize the Ukrainian nation and state.
RasputinXXX on
ICC has been a sham since Bush and Cheney. Good morning.
West_Possible_7969 on
Switzerland getting a permanent hard on cosplaying the “neutral state” and then they ll get surprised when the next 39% happen.
SvalbardCats on
Switzerland’s neutrality flaunting pisses me off.
Beyllionaire on
Just dismantle the ICC already. It’s completely useless. I got downvoted some time ago for saying that it’s only purpose is to go against 3rd world leaders that can’t fight back against the 1st world.
Any country with sufficient military/economic power, allies or US backing will simply say fuck you to anything the ICC says. When even the countries that signed the treaty say they won’t uphold the rulings then what does it even exist for???????
polthys on
pieces of shit
Jmc_da_boss on
Basic power dynamics will always win out, you either have a big enough stick or you are subjugated by someone who does
DrKronoglopolos on
It was Macron who suggested Geneva for the Zelenzki-Putin summit. Direct your righteous outrage accordingly, r/europe.
Not that Putin would ever show up anyways, he won’t fly over NATO territory.
surferpirate47 on
What the actual fuck
Ok_Photo_865 on
For peace talks only then toss him in a fast running River! He’ll swim!!
GandalfTheSexay on
Switzerland declares neutrality while benefitting from the NATO member states around it. Pathetic
FewJuggernaut4096 on
Well he needs to flybove quite some icc memberstates, would they open their airspace too for him?
Darjuz96 on
Probably for jus congens
DayTwoFlesh on
I don’t understand the negative comments from a logical point of view. Arresting Putin would delay the peace negotiations.
Snack378 on
Can we get Switzerland in the sky and drop it somewhere near Russia then? It’s easy to be „neutral“ when everyone around you is friendly
Even better if they can swap places with Taiwan or South Korea
hyper_plane on
The anti-Switzerland hate is strong in this one. If only people were aware that it wasn’t Switzerland’s idea, but Macron’s…
aquel1983 on
ICC is a joke.. 0 repercussions for the real killers and genocidal dictators.
The ICC should have been a pain in the ass for him and a reason to fear leaving the countey, but he just craps on it..
ArWiLen on
Then what’s the point of having these organisations?
memenmemen on
this is better than Moscow or somewhere in Hungary.. but he won’t show up anyway unless all his perverse demands are met
Appropriate_Gate_701 on
Why are people freaking out about this? This is how you get peace talks.
I’m not a fan of Putin, but you don’t get peace talks if you threaten to arrest the parties.
Competitive_Shock783 on
The ICC is pointless. It only punishes countries that actively allow punishment.
ganbaro on
Everyone shitting on Switzerland ignores that it was Macron’s proposal to host them in Geneva
Let’s say the Swiss reject the idea. We cheer. What then?
Check the nations which did not ratify Rome statute: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_Statute Who should stage peace talks then? Most non-signatories are at least on friendlier termd with Russia than Ukraine, sone are even Allies. The US are Russia’s b*tch right now. Who is left, Israel?
I would understand if people would prefer to scrap the talks. I would agree, as I don’t believe talks with Putin are worthwhile right now. But, *as long as Ukraine agrees to talks*, I would not shit on the country that provides the stage. Especially if it wasn’t even that countries‘ idea to begin with.
Its a systemic issue with ICC arrest warrants. Democracies like Israel send negotiators, but autocracies will often reject that if the glorious leader had trust issues. Is it worth to deny the other side of the conflict the chance for peace talks just to maintain the legitimacy of ICC? Tough choice IMHO.
Not many alternatives around which are neutral on the conflict and have a tradition of staging talks. Singapore comes to mind.
solwaj on
I hate this fucking planet
cspetm on
Switzerland accommodating dictators‘ needs since 1930s
international_swiss on
I am completely surprised by the posts here.
Everyone one wants end to war. Ukraine and Russia need to meet to discuss.
If Switzerland is offering the venue then why is it such a problem? How else the negotiation will happen?
Would we rather have discussion in China?
I don’t quite get the hate over Switzerland.
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The war has shown that the ICC and UN are dead organizations.
Make it official and cancel these international organizations at least you’ll save money.
You gotta be fucking kidding me. I guess we’re heading straight towards a new world order.
Switzerland are the enemy of the people
so the goblins want to hoard some more russian money. got it.
This is not news, because Putin will never agree to „Peace“ talks, unless forced to. He will not meet with Ze because he does not want to legitimize the Ukrainian nation and state.
ICC has been a sham since Bush and Cheney. Good morning.
Switzerland getting a permanent hard on cosplaying the “neutral state” and then they ll get surprised when the next 39% happen.
Switzerland’s neutrality flaunting pisses me off.
Just dismantle the ICC already. It’s completely useless. I got downvoted some time ago for saying that it’s only purpose is to go against 3rd world leaders that can’t fight back against the 1st world.
Any country with sufficient military/economic power, allies or US backing will simply say fuck you to anything the ICC says. When even the countries that signed the treaty say they won’t uphold the rulings then what does it even exist for???????
pieces of shit
Basic power dynamics will always win out, you either have a big enough stick or you are subjugated by someone who does
It was Macron who suggested Geneva for the Zelenzki-Putin summit. Direct your righteous outrage accordingly, r/europe.
Not that Putin would ever show up anyways, he won’t fly over NATO territory.
What the actual fuck
For peace talks only then toss him in a fast running River! He’ll swim!!
Switzerland declares neutrality while benefitting from the NATO member states around it. Pathetic
Well he needs to flybove quite some icc memberstates, would they open their airspace too for him?
Probably for jus congens
I don’t understand the negative comments from a logical point of view. Arresting Putin would delay the peace negotiations.
Can we get Switzerland in the sky and drop it somewhere near Russia then? It’s easy to be „neutral“ when everyone around you is friendly
Even better if they can swap places with Taiwan or South Korea
The anti-Switzerland hate is strong in this one. If only people were aware that it wasn’t Switzerland’s idea, but Macron’s…
ICC is a joke.. 0 repercussions for the real killers and genocidal dictators.
The ICC should have been a pain in the ass for him and a reason to fear leaving the countey, but he just craps on it..
Then what’s the point of having these organisations?
this is better than Moscow or somewhere in Hungary.. but he won’t show up anyway unless all his perverse demands are met
Why are people freaking out about this? This is how you get peace talks.
I’m not a fan of Putin, but you don’t get peace talks if you threaten to arrest the parties.
The ICC is pointless. It only punishes countries that actively allow punishment.
Everyone shitting on Switzerland ignores that it was Macron’s proposal to host them in Geneva
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/08/19/macron-proposes-putin-and-zelensky-hold-peace-talks-in-geneva_6744507_4.html It’s ironic we claim Switzerland does this because they freeride on NATO when its actually them appeasing NATO members over ICC. Blame France and supporting allies (eg UK) for the idea, not the Swiss.
Let’s say the Swiss reject the idea. We cheer. What then?
Check the nations which did not ratify Rome statute: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_Statute Who should stage peace talks then? Most non-signatories are at least on friendlier termd with Russia than Ukraine, sone are even Allies. The US are Russia’s b*tch right now. Who is left, Israel?
I would understand if people would prefer to scrap the talks. I would agree, as I don’t believe talks with Putin are worthwhile right now. But, *as long as Ukraine agrees to talks*, I would not shit on the country that provides the stage. Especially if it wasn’t even that countries‘ idea to begin with.
Its a systemic issue with ICC arrest warrants. Democracies like Israel send negotiators, but autocracies will often reject that if the glorious leader had trust issues. Is it worth to deny the other side of the conflict the chance for peace talks just to maintain the legitimacy of ICC? Tough choice IMHO.
Not many alternatives around which are neutral on the conflict and have a tradition of staging talks. Singapore comes to mind.
I hate this fucking planet
Switzerland accommodating dictators‘ needs since 1930s
I am completely surprised by the posts here.
Everyone one wants end to war. Ukraine and Russia need to meet to discuss.
If Switzerland is offering the venue then why is it such a problem? How else the negotiation will happen?
Would we rather have discussion in China?
I don’t quite get the hate over Switzerland.