Condemning themselves to irrelevance then, he’s absolutely toxic
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„potentially pivotal role in the next election“ LOL sounds like someone needs to read up on FPTP. Greens are, have always been, and will continue to be, a crackpot fringe party of irrelevance. Just like Corbyns mob will be.
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He’s a really good communicator and he understands that voters are extremely concerned about the cost of living. Like it or not he has had significantly more cut through with voters than the current leadership. I dont think an alliance with corbyn / sultana is a good idea for the greens.
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What even is the point anymore? I could understand taking up the far left space before Corbyn’s new party but now it’s gonna be an uphill battle. All you do is lose all the progressive middle class liberals (which is most green voters) because they don’t want to vote for socialism and open borders.
It’s a tree hugger party first and foremost, the most they could achieve under his leadership is an electoral pact with Corbyn and maybe some central Birmingham seats.
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Hostile takeover is an interesting way of phrasing it seeing as the Greens emphasising party members voice and allowing them to have direct influence in things like party leadership is supposed to be part of the selling points of greens.
If there’s supposed to be a caveat of „people can put themselves up for leadership but we don’t actually want you to do that because it would be mean to current leaders“ then they should probably write that down formally, but I don’t think members would appreciate it. With labour changing how party leader is assigned greens are one of the few parties left that feel like members have a voice.
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Well yes, he’s getting same strong media backing that Starmer got, from the exact same fucking people.
It doesn’t take much effort or money to co-opt a political party, and the benefits for doing so are extreme.
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I feel like for the Greens, ZP is the right leader for the wrong election. A shift leftward might have been valuable in the run up to 2024 where there was effectively no left-wing party on the menu, but Corbyn’s return changes the landscape for 2029. If both parties occupy the same space, I see no prospect of a deal and a good chance that given the choice, Corbyn has a better shot at forming a bloc in parliament and will either split or take the Green seats.
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Condemning themselves to irrelevance then, he’s absolutely toxic
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„potentially pivotal role in the next election“ LOL sounds like someone needs to read up on FPTP. Greens are, have always been, and will continue to be, a crackpot fringe party of irrelevance. Just like Corbyns mob will be.
He’s a really good communicator and he understands that voters are extremely concerned about the cost of living. Like it or not he has had significantly more cut through with voters than the current leadership. I dont think an alliance with corbyn / sultana is a good idea for the greens.
What even is the point anymore? I could understand taking up the far left space before Corbyn’s new party but now it’s gonna be an uphill battle. All you do is lose all the progressive middle class liberals (which is most green voters) because they don’t want to vote for socialism and open borders.
It’s a tree hugger party first and foremost, the most they could achieve under his leadership is an electoral pact with Corbyn and maybe some central Birmingham seats.
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Hostile takeover is an interesting way of phrasing it seeing as the Greens emphasising party members voice and allowing them to have direct influence in things like party leadership is supposed to be part of the selling points of greens.
If there’s supposed to be a caveat of „people can put themselves up for leadership but we don’t actually want you to do that because it would be mean to current leaders“ then they should probably write that down formally, but I don’t think members would appreciate it. With labour changing how party leader is assigned greens are one of the few parties left that feel like members have a voice.
Well yes, he’s getting same strong media backing that Starmer got, from the exact same fucking people.
It doesn’t take much effort or money to co-opt a political party, and the benefits for doing so are extreme.
I feel like for the Greens, ZP is the right leader for the wrong election. A shift leftward might have been valuable in the run up to 2024 where there was effectively no left-wing party on the menu, but Corbyn’s return changes the landscape for 2029. If both parties occupy the same space, I see no prospect of a deal and a good chance that given the choice, Corbyn has a better shot at forming a bloc in parliament and will either split or take the Green seats.
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