Ich habe eine Weile in Norwegen als EU -Bürger gelebt und überlegte die Staatsbürgerschaft aus einem ganz bestimmten Grund (ein potenzieller Job, der die Staatsbürgerschaft erfordert). Ich habe einen dauerhaften Job und eine Wohnung, aber wenn ich aus irgendeinem Grund meinen Job verliere, könnte ich mir vorstellen, zurückzuziehen "heim".
Die UDI -Website für meinen Fall listet einige Anforderungen auf, darunter:
Sie müssen in Norwegen und wohnhaft sein und haben auch in Zukunft hier ansässig sein.
Was macht das? Genau genommen bedeuten? Angenommen, ich bekomme zum Beispiel die Staatsbürgerschaft bis Ende des Jahres. Im Januar finde ich einen neuen interessanten Job und beschließe, nach Deutschland zurückzukehren. Werde ich dann bestraft? Kann ich die Staatsbürgerschaft widerrufen lassen? Wie beweise ich, dass ich das Land bei der Bewerbung nicht verlassen wollte?
Potenziell relevant von Regjeringen.no:
Die norwegische Staatsbürgerschaft kann zurückgerufen werden, wenn die Staatsbürgerschaft erteilt wurde, weil die Person falsche Informationen oder Auslassung von Informationen von erheblicher Bedeutung für die Entscheidung lieferte.
Das ist aber auch nur eine Bedrohung für das, was passieren könnte und ist sehr allgemein.
NB: Der Grund, warum ich das schreibe R/Norwegen und auf Englisch im Gegensatz zu /R/Norwegen ist, dass ich denke, dass die Leute hier mit internationalen Angelegenheiten besser vertraut sind. Fühlen Sie sich frei, auf Norwegisch zu antworten. Bitte übersetzen Sie nicht nur den Satz, das ist nicht meine Frage.
Citizenship: what does "du må ha tenkt å være bosatt her også i framtiden" mean in practice?
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Von IsThisOneStillFree
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Citizenship has so many consequences that a job should never be the deciding factor for this. You might be drafted in case of war, among other things.
It means that its your intention to remain living in Norway after getting citizenship. If you are considering moving back to Germany, why get Norwegian citizenship?
These things mean anything you or others want them to mean. They are generic on purpose.
It is only if something happens in the future that makes others (with the legal authority to do so) question your honesty and motives, that such sentence can be used to take action.
It’s the same in lots of laws in all countries. It’s impossible to list specifically all the possible applicative case, so these sentences are there to provide a hook in case a judgement by an authorized power is rendered necessary in the future for some reason.
Ja, i teorien kan da statsborgerskapet tilbakekalles. Statsborgerskap er ment for de som planlegger livslangt opphold i Norge, jeg synes at i din situasjon blir det helt feil å søke om statsborgerskap.
Merk også at mange av jobbene som krever statsborgerskap (forsvaret, SMK etc) vil i utgangspunktet ikke vurdere søkere med *nye* statsborgerskap heller. De krever statsborgerskap fordi de skal ha „Nordmenn“. Folk med kun lojalitet til Norge, og det høres ikke ut som noe som gjelder for deg.
Typisk beviser man intensjonen om å bli værende ved å vise til tilknytning til landet, f.eks ekteskap/samboerskap med en statsborger, barn som er statsborgere eller at man eier bolig. Et arbeidsforhold er ikke nok.
Not sure if it helps, but in my case, living in Norway and having no intention to move to another country, due to having a young child here, made the decision for me simple. However as an only child with older parents back in the UK, circumstances in future may force me to move back, but that would feel temporary to me and my intention would always be to come back to Norway to live eventually. For that reason I feel like I answered the question truthfully, even though I can’t say with 100% certainty that I will always live here in the future.
I am also a german living in norway and while I will be living here mostlikely for my entire future I don’t have a reason to get a norwegian passport besides that yet.
As an EU citizen you have it easier staying here then other people, and in my experience the german passport is „stronger“ then the norwegian one when it comes to inner european travel.
That being said I might consider dual citizenship when it comes to wife and kids.
Also, if the schengen agreement dies one day I will also change my citizenship bc norway is my home now.
Long story short, it seems you are not bound to the country but more like going to where you get work.
I would say wait until you are certain that you will stay in norway and not move arlund for another work and them you can apply for dual citizenship…
I think the keyword here is “intent”. Applying for Norwegian citizenship as you’re interviewing for jobs in Germany would be disingenuous (and could result in consequences if it was somehow discovered).
Applying for citizenship while you are living here with a permanent job and no plans on moving barring exceptional circumstances (i.e., losing your job) falls under “plan to live in Norway in the future”. This is a key difference with a permanent residence permit, which requires you to live in the country or you lose it — citizenship has no such requirements. You are free to move Germany or any other country of your choosing in 1 or 5 or 25 years if your circumstances change, and your citizenship will not be revoked.
If I were to hazard a guess it boils down whether you intend to live in Norway for the foreseeable future. In that regard it is to prevent citizenship accumulation, exploitation and so forth.
If you plan to stay here on a 10+ year timeframe I wouldn’t worry. The «kan» in one of your quotes just implies that it could happen, but I would find it somewhat of a stretch if you have gone the whole route of permanent residence, house (family?) and at the time of applying for citizenship have no intent of going back. If you intend to stay it would be hard to give false witness.
If shit happens many years from now and you end up going back I don’t think that is a big problem. Well it would probably be somewhat complicated with taxes, folketrygden etc. but that is a different beast.
Remember to check that you don’t need to have had Norwegian citizenship for a decade before you can apply as well as whether you can have dual citizenship. Many jobs that require Norwegian citizenship also require that you’ve been a citizen for a while as well. You should really be planning to live here permanently to get citizenship.