Unions mean nothing in Canada because of binding arbitration orders
notred369 on
Just in case you forgot who the government really looks out for.
enjoythesilence-75 on
Air Canada has handled this horribly.
heroism777 on
Just never book air canada. You’ll never be affected by them.
fury420 on
What’s the point in having the right to collective bargaining if the companies can just refuse to make any concessions and then complain to the government?
99.7% of workers voted to strike, it doesn’t really get any more collective than that.
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FrontEndCore on
A strike like this shows workers are done carrying the weight while executives cash in from the top.
Street_Anon on
Surprise, Surprise..
Mikefrash on
What is stopping the workforce from collectively saying « no »? Also, they make it sound like if you don’t fly with air Canada you can’t fly anywhere. Just book your flight through one of the other carriers…? I hope the employees get what they deserve. Solidarity!
CandadianChocolate on
Binding arbitration hasn’t helped employees in years lol, just pay them
degno1 on
Feels like It all was pre-planned by the company and the government. No wonder AC were not interested in serious negotiations and walked off the table on any little excuse. What a shame!
AntigonishIGuess on
Fuck that. Wild cat strike time.
bcbigfoot on
Man this sucks for them. Maybe they should all quit en Massé. Then the airline can’t operate at all.
Laughing_Zero on
They must have meant BLINDING. Because they are blind to the workers collective right to strike.
mrmanoftheland42069 on
Air Canada, literally making AA look good 🤣. That’s how much of a joke it is
mytinykitten on
Aww. Just like Reagan and the ATCs. History ♥️.
Remarkable_History15 on
Easy way for this bullshit practice to end is for an Arbitrator to award a very favorable contract to the employees. Watch all the big corps finally start negotiating before government intervention after that.
TedoftheTides on
Liberals Suck. Didn’t even get a full day to strike.
UpsieYourLiftingFren on
No surprise here. Socialism for the rich, „arbitration“ for the poor.
Low-Log4438 on
Why the fuk is the government getting involved. AC is no longer a crown corporation.
Funny they didn’t order the male pilots back but order the female flight attendants back.
Incestuous_Amoeba on
Oh wow, the conservative government(in all but name), is forcing union breaking bullshit? I am shocked…. Shocked I say 😂
CombustiblSquid on
As much as I prefer the liberals to the cons, they are still liberals which means they are just as beholden to the capitalists.
Sushyneutah on
If it gets to arbitration it should automatically, disproportionately benefit the union.
just_rum on
I flew air canada one time and they lost my bags both incoming and outgoing. Never again it was a nightmare
BrianWantsTruth on
Something I’m trying to process here: if the crew got a raise, AC would pass that cost to the customer, right?
Let’s make some easy-number assumptions. A 5-hour flight, with 200 passengers and 5 flight attendants. Let’s just say they receive a $20/hr raise. Hell, let’s pay them $20/hr for an hour before and after the flight (they’re working aren’t they?). $20x7x5, so crew costs increase by $700 for this flight. Share that cost across 200 passengers, their ticket price goes up by $3.50?
We’re talking about the price of a coffee per passenger? I’m certain that I’m over-simplifying, but if we blow this way out, let’s say the ticket price goes up by $20 per passenger. Shouldn’t that equate to $800 *per attendant* in available funds?
I realize there are a lot of assumptions here, but I just can’t understand how customer costs can’t cover a reasonable increase in pay here.
TakeTheWheelTV on
Ok, so not an air strike, an airline labor strike.
wrobbii on
Carney is a neo-liberal economist. This totally tracks and Im really upset he’s decided to dig us in as a resource based economy, like I get it, but I wanted us to move towards a more specialized, industrial and techonological economy. With the brains draining from the US we could totally pick off top flight talent. We have all the resources to make it happen but lack the ambition and foresight. Fucking sucks man.
earoar on
Canada is a two party country and their both right wing. It’s a sad day.
TheSuperContributor on
Truckers: this is your first time?
Prowler1000 on
What the actual fuck. It started TODAY.
Dinoboy225 on
I could have sworn that the title read “Canadian Air Strike” and I got *really* worried.
__Valkyrie___ on
Time to write my representative.
KjnTxn on
Canada wont even let people go on strike??
Thewolfofsesamest on
For fucks sake Carney, I once again regret my vote.
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Unions mean nothing in Canada because of binding arbitration orders
Just in case you forgot who the government really looks out for.
Air Canada has handled this horribly.
Just never book air canada. You’ll never be affected by them.
What’s the point in having the right to collective bargaining if the companies can just refuse to make any concessions and then complain to the government?
99.7% of workers voted to strike, it doesn’t really get any more collective than that.
[deleted]
A strike like this shows workers are done carrying the weight while executives cash in from the top.
Surprise, Surprise..
What is stopping the workforce from collectively saying « no »? Also, they make it sound like if you don’t fly with air Canada you can’t fly anywhere. Just book your flight through one of the other carriers…? I hope the employees get what they deserve. Solidarity!
Binding arbitration hasn’t helped employees in years lol, just pay them
Feels like It all was pre-planned by the company and the government. No wonder AC were not interested in serious negotiations and walked off the table on any little excuse. What a shame!
Fuck that. Wild cat strike time.
Man this sucks for them. Maybe they should all quit en Massé. Then the airline can’t operate at all.
They must have meant BLINDING. Because they are blind to the workers collective right to strike.
Air Canada, literally making AA look good 🤣. That’s how much of a joke it is
Aww. Just like Reagan and the ATCs. History ♥️.
Easy way for this bullshit practice to end is for an Arbitrator to award a very favorable contract to the employees. Watch all the big corps finally start negotiating before government intervention after that.
Liberals Suck. Didn’t even get a full day to strike.
No surprise here. Socialism for the rich, „arbitration“ for the poor.
Why the fuk is the government getting involved. AC is no longer a crown corporation.
[Remove Patty Hajdu from office for incompetence](https://www.change.org/p/remove-patty-hajdu-from-office-for-incompetence)
Funny they didn’t order the male pilots back but order the female flight attendants back.
Oh wow, the conservative government(in all but name), is forcing union breaking bullshit? I am shocked…. Shocked I say 😂
As much as I prefer the liberals to the cons, they are still liberals which means they are just as beholden to the capitalists.
If it gets to arbitration it should automatically, disproportionately benefit the union.
I flew air canada one time and they lost my bags both incoming and outgoing. Never again it was a nightmare
Something I’m trying to process here: if the crew got a raise, AC would pass that cost to the customer, right?
Let’s make some easy-number assumptions. A 5-hour flight, with 200 passengers and 5 flight attendants. Let’s just say they receive a $20/hr raise. Hell, let’s pay them $20/hr for an hour before and after the flight (they’re working aren’t they?). $20x7x5, so crew costs increase by $700 for this flight. Share that cost across 200 passengers, their ticket price goes up by $3.50?
We’re talking about the price of a coffee per passenger? I’m certain that I’m over-simplifying, but if we blow this way out, let’s say the ticket price goes up by $20 per passenger. Shouldn’t that equate to $800 *per attendant* in available funds?
I realize there are a lot of assumptions here, but I just can’t understand how customer costs can’t cover a reasonable increase in pay here.
Ok, so not an air strike, an airline labor strike.
Carney is a neo-liberal economist. This totally tracks and Im really upset he’s decided to dig us in as a resource based economy, like I get it, but I wanted us to move towards a more specialized, industrial and techonological economy. With the brains draining from the US we could totally pick off top flight talent. We have all the resources to make it happen but lack the ambition and foresight. Fucking sucks man.
Canada is a two party country and their both right wing. It’s a sad day.
Truckers: this is your first time?
What the actual fuck. It started TODAY.
I could have sworn that the title read “Canadian Air Strike” and I got *really* worried.
Time to write my representative.
Canada wont even let people go on strike??
For fucks sake Carney, I once again regret my vote.