He’s right, and the response has just been embarrassing.
We’re now onto the „we have evidence that they’re terrorists but we’re not allowed to show you“ part of this farce.
If they had such compelling evidence then it should have been presented as justification for the proscription, instead they rushed the bill through as secondary legislation that couldn’t be amended, alongside other groups (actual terrorists that want to mass murder civilians) that many couldn’t vote against proscribing.
The sheer level of rank dishonesty and dirty bad faith practices around this completely undermines any argument they try to make.
Ministers should be resigning over how incompetently this has been handled, but we’ve got ourselves yet another Tory government incapable of shame, and whose response to every problem is authoritarianism.
IllustriousGerbil on
There a group heavy funded by people with deep connections to russia who stockpile weapons and attack UK military bases.
If a bunch of useful idiots want to get arrested to support them, they have no one but them self’s to blame.
GianfrancoZoey on
There’s a lot of users who always pop up in these threads making ridiculous assertions intended to mislead people.
This, chagos, tax changes, water company bailouts, immigration, housing, is there any area of policy they’re not “in a hole and still digging” in?
FuzzBuket on
It’s also monumentally stupid.
I hate viewing the deaths of tens of thousands of children through the lens of electoral politics, labour should have either stood up for international law or distances themselves last year as the only choices that could be made as some sort of moral point.
But God if you think the sun had an easy time with jez and want to avoid that, id probably avoid „Yvette cooper took 200k from the Israelis and now throws British grannies in jail for it“. Like it’s such a massive opening.
I can understand doing something like that if your well and truly committed to a cause, but let’s be honest labour isn’t. Either mossad has pictures of starmer using Google sheets rather than excel (the horror) or it’s truly just the plp cutting off their nose to spite their face.
Loreki on
I wonder if the government will ultimately concede some minor technical point in the case and drop the order because „they got the admin wrong and of course these things must be held to high standards because they create criminal offences“, so as not to have to change the outward policy.
Archelaus_Euryalos on
Yup, it’s a slippery slope, terrorism should be refined to mean, causes people to feel terror on mass. If you don’t feel terror on mass, it’s not terrorism is it?
WoddleWang on
Honestly there’s no need for an article, „UK government digging itself into hole“ is applicable to every subject at any point in time in the past couple decades.
macarouns on
It’s a constant theme of our governments. A complete inability to see the consequences of their actions and what will happen next
BronnOP on
Mark my words, it will come out that Palestine Action is secretly funded by an adversarial country (Russia, China, Iran etc) and that’s why the government has been taking such pants on head ridiculous action over it (especially after the RAF base incident) and the public are caught up in it.
There have been some ridiculous moments like this throughout history, where the government takes ridiculous seemingly overreaching action that goes a against all the country stands for, only for it later to come out there was much more going on.
My mind goes back to the Falklands, where after the war was won, Margret Thatcher (someone else I dislike) kept showing support for military dictator Augusto Pinochet. Nobody could understand why she kept showing support for this seemingly random character, and the public protested her support of this dictator. How could the British prime minister, in a nation built on freedom and free speech support a literal military dictator? Well…
It was later revealed that during the Falklands conflict, Pinochet’s Chile had secretly assisted the UK by providing crucial intelligence on Argentine military movements. This included radar and surveillance information, particularly on Argentine aircraft, which helped the British war effort significantly. It was deemed a necessary political move to support and protect Pinochet after the war, because of Britain didn’t take care of its friends, sooner or later we wouldn’t have any.
I support a sovereign Palestine.
I despise the genocide the Israeli regime has been conducting.
But there may be more here than meets the eye.
SuccessfulWar3830 on
The RAF has been helping Israel commit a genocide for the last 2 years now.
But no. Its PA who are the real ones causing terror.
Some labour party.
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He’s right, and the response has just been embarrassing.
We’re now onto the „we have evidence that they’re terrorists but we’re not allowed to show you“ part of this farce.
If they had such compelling evidence then it should have been presented as justification for the proscription, instead they rushed the bill through as secondary legislation that couldn’t be amended, alongside other groups (actual terrorists that want to mass murder civilians) that many couldn’t vote against proscribing.
The sheer level of rank dishonesty and dirty bad faith practices around this completely undermines any argument they try to make.
Ministers should be resigning over how incompetently this has been handled, but we’ve got ourselves yet another Tory government incapable of shame, and whose response to every problem is authoritarianism.
There a group heavy funded by people with deep connections to russia who stockpile weapons and attack UK military bases.
If a bunch of useful idiots want to get arrested to support them, they have no one but them self’s to blame.
There’s a lot of users who always pop up in these threads making ridiculous assertions intended to mislead people.
[Here’s a link incase anyone wants to actually read the JTAC report (a levied version of it obviously) that Yvette Cooper keeps lying about the contents of](https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2025/08/yvette-cooper-is-lying/)
This, chagos, tax changes, water company bailouts, immigration, housing, is there any area of policy they’re not “in a hole and still digging” in?
It’s also monumentally stupid.
I hate viewing the deaths of tens of thousands of children through the lens of electoral politics, labour should have either stood up for international law or distances themselves last year as the only choices that could be made as some sort of moral point.
But God if you think the sun had an easy time with jez and want to avoid that, id probably avoid „Yvette cooper took 200k from the Israelis and now throws British grannies in jail for it“. Like it’s such a massive opening.
I can understand doing something like that if your well and truly committed to a cause, but let’s be honest labour isn’t. Either mossad has pictures of starmer using Google sheets rather than excel (the horror) or it’s truly just the plp cutting off their nose to spite their face.
I wonder if the government will ultimately concede some minor technical point in the case and drop the order because „they got the admin wrong and of course these things must be held to high standards because they create criminal offences“, so as not to have to change the outward policy.
Yup, it’s a slippery slope, terrorism should be refined to mean, causes people to feel terror on mass. If you don’t feel terror on mass, it’s not terrorism is it?
Honestly there’s no need for an article, „UK government digging itself into hole“ is applicable to every subject at any point in time in the past couple decades.
It’s a constant theme of our governments. A complete inability to see the consequences of their actions and what will happen next
Mark my words, it will come out that Palestine Action is secretly funded by an adversarial country (Russia, China, Iran etc) and that’s why the government has been taking such pants on head ridiculous action over it (especially after the RAF base incident) and the public are caught up in it.
There have been some ridiculous moments like this throughout history, where the government takes ridiculous seemingly overreaching action that goes a against all the country stands for, only for it later to come out there was much more going on.
My mind goes back to the Falklands, where after the war was won, Margret Thatcher (someone else I dislike) kept showing support for military dictator Augusto Pinochet. Nobody could understand why she kept showing support for this seemingly random character, and the public protested her support of this dictator. How could the British prime minister, in a nation built on freedom and free speech support a literal military dictator? Well…
It was later revealed that during the Falklands conflict, Pinochet’s Chile had secretly assisted the UK by providing crucial intelligence on Argentine military movements. This included radar and surveillance information, particularly on Argentine aircraft, which helped the British war effort significantly. It was deemed a necessary political move to support and protect Pinochet after the war, because of Britain didn’t take care of its friends, sooner or later we wouldn’t have any.
I support a sovereign Palestine.
I despise the genocide the Israeli regime has been conducting.
But there may be more here than meets the eye.
The RAF has been helping Israel commit a genocide for the last 2 years now.
But no. Its PA who are the real ones causing terror.
Some labour party.