Löschen Sie Ihre alten E -Mails, um Wasser zu sparen, sagt Umweltbehörde
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/delete-emails-water-drought-environment-agency-b2806240.html
Von Cotirani
Löschen Sie Ihre alten E -Mails, um Wasser zu sparen, sagt Umweltbehörde
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/delete-emails-water-drought-environment-agency-b2806240.html
Von Cotirani
30 Kommentare
The action of deleting involves processing the data which will actually increase usage. Leaving them to sit on drives untouched means they go unprocessed
Also do they not realise how puny emails are? Its literally just a text file (excluding any attachments of course). Processing that amount of data is less intensive than loading the page on their website that tells you to delete it
***selects all, and deletes 12 years worth of emails***
Minister -„WTF are you doing????!
Me – „Saving water, there’s a hosepipe ban in force don’t you know?“
I know, how about you fuck off?
We don’t have a shortage of water because I’ve got emails from 20 years ago still, we have a shortage of water because billions of litres leaks out of the pipes every fucking day – something that’s only getting worse.
Ahh, more shifting blame onto the public. Gotta love it.
Sure, the public could be way better about certain things, but this just isn’t it.
Emails stored in US and European data centers are causing low water levels in UK reservoirs? That’s certainly news to me.
I would rather the water industry had actually done it’s job and not just sacked off maintenance and service provision whilst making their main business plan to be decades of false accounting that allowed them to extract vast sums from the public into private hands whilst the service provision fell through the floor.
Any message the EA puts out that isn’t “Build more reservoirs you greedy cunts” is literally meaningless at this point.
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Why do they focus on people when companies and the infrastructure and water management companies should be taking the largest focus. Hell doesn’t ai use lot of water to keep servers cool.
So old email storage is probably on HDD. Let’s imagine there are 9 copies of this data (accounting for planned and unplanned datacenter outages, space for multiple indexes, unused space, error correction data, multiple copies for spindle load balancing etc).
10 TB is the most cost effective disk size, and an email compressed is perhaps 10 kb. 1 HDD is around 7 watts. Evaporation of 1 liter of water uses 2,260 kilojoules per kilogram.
Maths all that and it turns out 1 HDD for 1 year uses 97 liters of water per year, which means 1 redundantly stored email uses 0.000873 milliliters of water per year.
Or to write it another way, 300 emails stored for a year uses a single drip of water,
I can’t believe what I’ve just read. This has to be a joke, right? Right?
Excellent. I’ll redirect my entire inbox to “Deleted” and when I get pulled up on not doing anything at work, I’ll point to our environmental policy
Or hear me out.
We could:
– hold water companies accountable for poor maintenance and infrastructure.
– hold big corporations that use excessive water in their production commit to finding ways to reduce their water consumption by modernising and improving their manufacturing processes.
Are we really cooling data centers with clean water then just dumping it in the sea? And ifvwe are that’s certainly not a problem caused by the general public, that’s a problem caused entirely by cuntish behaviour by big businesses.
The 2020s will be seen by future generations the same way we now view the 70s in Britain… a time in which big government leeched off the working people, in which Britain was run by lunatics who had no real solutions to the real problems of people but wanted to discover a thousand new problems in their conveniences.
You will have the small loyal following of cultists who want socialism to work at any price…even at the cost of the economy, the nation and everything else…but while they bark like dogs gone mad in the heat now, in 1979, the Thatcher landslide led to 20 years of conservative rule… all because people saw how crap things were under socialism.
We are now at that point.
Perfect illustration of individual vs corporate responsibility.
„Burn your paperwork and most importantly, forget everything you know about us“
The environment agency wants to slap the government around with a brick and have them take on the big tech/AI companies if they want a significant difference.
Also, slap Thames Water’s CEO round the face with a brick for paying shareholders instead of fixing the damned pipes.
>Emails and photos stored on the cloud are supported by large water and energy-demanding data centres
Now think about how bad its going to get the more AI is used. Data cetners full of server racks with multiple cpus and power hungry gpus.
The entire size of wikipedia (-media) is 24gb compressed, about 50gb uncompressed.
I dont know how many emails this pillock thinks we have, but come on….
also, my archived emails are just sitting on storage, they are not being processed continually……
what a fucking stupid thing to say.
You know what, how about we just don’t use water at all? That’d make the EA happy I’m sure…
So instead of doing the job of government and ensuring we have fit for purpose utilities we blame the consumer. Congratulations.
The video this article autoplays on pageload uses the equivelant storage of 20,000 emails. If everyone who has commented so far clicked the link we’ve burned through nearly 2 million emails worth of data transfer
I hope you’re all happy THE CHILDREN DON’T HAVE ANYTHING TO DRINK
Lmfao. Basically, delete old emails so the big storage facilities hosted by mega corporations with thousands upon thousands of TB of cloud storage can have less load. And that’s on the end user?
Of course, it shouldn’t be the case that the corporations should delete our emails as they see fit. But the onus is on them to reduce power and consumption. I don’t see them slowing down any time soon. Emails out of everything are just nothing, they’re absolutely meaningless. You’re not going to save enough water to get us out of the rut by deleting emails, daft as fuck.
Build more fucking reservoirs … I’m so sick of having to pick up the slack and do little things to offset massive entities
Yet more „place the burden on the individual rather than the massive corporates“ performatory bullshit. Turn your lights off to save the planet! Meanwhile companies keep on companying.
It’s easy to see why people get cynical about the environment when professionals come out with shit like this.
My 3.5gb of emails dating back to pretty much the birth of Googlemail is not the cause of the UK losing water.
Cloud services in general, sure… But I’d hope that water is being paid for & generating profit to improve services accordingly.
Yet again, the general public is being blamed for the failings and exploitation perpetrated by the ultra-rich one percent.
Are they taking the piss ? How about fix the sewers and pipes and build some fucking reservoirs. Do they really think the public is this stupid ?
That isn’t even how storage works. Deleting emails will actually waste more energy as all the emails have to be process otherwise they just sit on the storage not wasting heat.