The thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is, these vaccines were recommended without telling people that they were experimental countermeasures to deal with a man-made pathogen.
A man-made pathogen indicates that we’ve all been made a part of a medical or scientific experiment. The failure to disclose this results in a lack of informed consent. The mRNA countermeasures were the 2nd experiment – the 1st was the virus itself.
FormerlyMauchChunk on
Safe and Effective is presumed, not proven.
Taxpayer_funded on
yea by far, safer and more effective than most vaccines
whosthetard on
The rationale is healthy people must take drugs to stay healthy. Then the s*%t hits the fan and doctors are baffled.
oh yeah and the other good one, my drug doesn’t work for me unless everyone else takes it, the herd immunity fantasy.
leosmi_ajutar on
To be fair, AstraZenenca was/is a viral vector vaccine, not mRNA.
In any case they were effective, just not against SARS-CoV-2 but rather bird flu.
Safe though? Absolutely not. Needs a lot more time in the oven.
Apprehensive_Ad4457 on
Flu vax isnt all vax, and neither of these studies is looking at long term effects. Thalidomide was safe as well, so we were told.
SeigneurMoutonDeux on
Take a look at the batches in the beginning vs the ones a year later. In the beginning, it was not unheard of for a batch to have 3500+ ADRs but a year later you’re hard pressed to find a batch with more than 10 ADRs. Imo, it seems in their haste to get a vaccine to the market some manufacturers (Moderna at least) cut some QA corners and shipped a contaminated product. The decrease in ADRs as time goes on seems to insinuate their QA process was getting dialed in.
Ok-Operation-5767 on
It’s wild to think that the media pushed the vaccine to be the most miraculous thing ever, claiming 95% efficacy, and telling people that the vaccine will end the pandemic, and not only were the vaccines not effective, they did the opposite of their intended purpose. It caused more disease, and the most ironic thing of all is that more people are anti vax solely because of the covid vaccine.
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The thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is, these vaccines were recommended without telling people that they were experimental countermeasures to deal with a man-made pathogen.
A man-made pathogen indicates that we’ve all been made a part of a medical or scientific experiment. The failure to disclose this results in a lack of informed consent. The mRNA countermeasures were the 2nd experiment – the 1st was the virus itself.
Safe and Effective is presumed, not proven.
yea by far, safer and more effective than most vaccines
The rationale is healthy people must take drugs to stay healthy. Then the s*%t hits the fan and doctors are baffled.
oh yeah and the other good one, my drug doesn’t work for me unless everyone else takes it, the herd immunity fantasy.
To be fair, AstraZenenca was/is a viral vector vaccine, not mRNA.
In any case they were effective, just not against SARS-CoV-2 but rather bird flu.
Safe though? Absolutely not. Needs a lot more time in the oven.
Flu vax isnt all vax, and neither of these studies is looking at long term effects. Thalidomide was safe as well, so we were told.
Take a look at the batches in the beginning vs the ones a year later. In the beginning, it was not unheard of for a batch to have 3500+ ADRs but a year later you’re hard pressed to find a batch with more than 10 ADRs. Imo, it seems in their haste to get a vaccine to the market some manufacturers (Moderna at least) cut some QA corners and shipped a contaminated product. The decrease in ADRs as time goes on seems to insinuate their QA process was getting dialed in.
It’s wild to think that the media pushed the vaccine to be the most miraculous thing ever, claiming 95% efficacy, and telling people that the vaccine will end the pandemic, and not only were the vaccines not effective, they did the opposite of their intended purpose. It caused more disease, and the most ironic thing of all is that more people are anti vax solely because of the covid vaccine.