Surely this will lead to higher immigration numbers?
We deport the illegal migrant but have to exchange for a different migrant (that the French don’t need to provide any information about). So we exchange someone who we could have deported for someone we can’t deport… our government think we are idiots.
IAMANiceishGuy on
I don’t really understand this scheme, for every person we deport back to France, they send an alternate person
So we’re net in the same position as before? I don’t get it or why this is seen as groundbreaking by labour
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Tr3nb0l0n3- on
Who are the people we’re getting in? Is there specific criteria for them or can the French just give up one of their illegal migrants in the swap? I haven’t seen anything yet
If so then this doesn’t seem like a good deal at all
Strange_Man on
I’m really shocked people don’t understand why this works – Why pay smugglers to cross the channel when you’re getting sent back. This reduces the incentive to actually cross. If we lower the people wanting to cross via boats then the overall number goes down. It’s a good policy.
CuriousThylacine on
So we let one in and send one back, then the one we sent back sneaks back in again. What is the point?
yterais on
I really don’t understand why asylum seekers won’t stay in France? There is no war there
KingThorongil on
Oh look, the government implemented something that’s only slightly better, and not perfect, so let’s moan about it here
No-Entrance-7451 on
They are only detaining 6% and they can avoid removal by making a human rights claim.
The pull factor is still there.
94% are allowed to stay.
And they will go straight to a hotel.
SwimmingOdd3228 on
Basically the new ones have applied legally and will come into a family setting.
The thrown out ones were random males with no family connection and dubious claims to seek asylum
merryman1 on
I love how immediately everyone focuses in on the one-in-one-out part of the agreement to decide its unworkable.
Meanwhile Rwanda was a stonking success despite the cost, despite barely deporting anyone, and despite the terms of the agreement being that Rwanda could choose to send us a whole planeload of people for every one person they received.
Bibsy1099 on
A better idea would be to remove ourselves from the Refuge Convention and only accept asylum seekers that haven’t passed through a safe country.
Detain those that then cross illegally in a partner country like Rwanda until they wish to be deported back to their original country.
AFulhamImmigrant on
Depressingly, objectively this is the most successful any government has yet been on this issue.
Unless this gets ramped up it will not work.
JakeGreyjoy on
This could break the people smuggler business model.
Try, get caught and sent back. You don’t get caught and ferried to the UK to start an application.
You’re also banned from proper application.
I hope this helps the situation.
Nothing short of sinking boats will ever be enough for some commenters. So they won’t be satisfied by it. But I hope it has a positive effect
Ok_Astronaut_3235 on
Interesting it’s not just the DM referring to them at “migrants” now.
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Surely this will lead to higher immigration numbers?
We deport the illegal migrant but have to exchange for a different migrant (that the French don’t need to provide any information about). So we exchange someone who we could have deported for someone we can’t deport… our government think we are idiots.
I don’t really understand this scheme, for every person we deport back to France, they send an alternate person
So we’re net in the same position as before? I don’t get it or why this is seen as groundbreaking by labour
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Who are the people we’re getting in? Is there specific criteria for them or can the French just give up one of their illegal migrants in the swap? I haven’t seen anything yet
If so then this doesn’t seem like a good deal at all
I’m really shocked people don’t understand why this works – Why pay smugglers to cross the channel when you’re getting sent back. This reduces the incentive to actually cross. If we lower the people wanting to cross via boats then the overall number goes down. It’s a good policy.
So we let one in and send one back, then the one we sent back sneaks back in again. What is the point?
I really don’t understand why asylum seekers won’t stay in France? There is no war there
Oh look, the government implemented something that’s only slightly better, and not perfect, so let’s moan about it here
They are only detaining 6% and they can avoid removal by making a human rights claim.
The pull factor is still there.
94% are allowed to stay.
And they will go straight to a hotel.
Basically the new ones have applied legally and will come into a family setting.
The thrown out ones were random males with no family connection and dubious claims to seek asylum
I love how immediately everyone focuses in on the one-in-one-out part of the agreement to decide its unworkable.
Meanwhile Rwanda was a stonking success despite the cost, despite barely deporting anyone, and despite the terms of the agreement being that Rwanda could choose to send us a whole planeload of people for every one person they received.
A better idea would be to remove ourselves from the Refuge Convention and only accept asylum seekers that haven’t passed through a safe country.
Detain those that then cross illegally in a partner country like Rwanda until they wish to be deported back to their original country.
Depressingly, objectively this is the most successful any government has yet been on this issue.
Unless this gets ramped up it will not work.
This could break the people smuggler business model.
Try, get caught and sent back. You don’t get caught and ferried to the UK to start an application.
You’re also banned from proper application.
I hope this helps the situation.
Nothing short of sinking boats will ever be enough for some commenters. So they won’t be satisfied by it. But I hope it has a positive effect
Interesting it’s not just the DM referring to them at “migrants” now.