Ich habe zwei pyrenäische Berghunde in einem Hof mit einem hohen Zaun von 1,8 Metern (Panssariaitaverkko). Ich musste diese nehmen, weil das Huhn jede Woche ein oder zwei pro Woche verschwunden hatte. Ich vermutete den Fuchs, den die Nachbarn in der Nähe entdeckt haben. Seitdem ist kein Huhn verschwunden.
Ein Kollege erzählte mir jedoch nur, dass die Hunde die Menschen verletzen würden (möglicherweise töten), wenn ich die Hunde in Ruhe in alleine im Hof lasse und menschliche Eindringlinge absichtlich den Zaun überqueren und in den Hof kommen würden, und ich wären rechtlich verantwortlich. Ich habe sogar einige Notizen an das Tor gesetzt, die die Menschen warnt, dass Viehwächterhunde in der Gegend frei sind und nicht eintreten sollten, ohne dass der Landbesitzer anwesend ist. Aber mein Kollege besteht immer noch darauf, dass ich gesetzlich verantwortlich wäre, wenn meine Hunde potenzielle Eindringlinge im Hof verletzen oder töten würden, obwohl sie mit dem Schild gewarnt wurden, nicht eintreten zu können.
Beachten Sie, dass ich auf dem Land lebe, nicht auf der Stadt. Die Hunde, die entkommen, ist kein Problem, der Zaun ist sehr gut. Und ohne Aufsicht meine ich, während ich bei der Arbeit bin oder schlafe, nicht ständig allein.
Eine weitere interessante Frage ist, ob die Versicherungsgesellschaft alle meine rechtlichen Geldstrafen abdecken würde oder sie entgegenwirken würde, indem sie sagen, dass ich die Hunde unbeaufsichtigt habe. Dies kann ich herausfinden, indem ich sie anruft.
Bearbeiten. Fox kann diese Art von Zaun leicht springen und ein Video sehen, das jemand anderes gemacht hat (nicht mein Hof): https://youtu.be/pttejdegqvf0?si=7Y7TJTBO2E32YJSG
Am I allowed to keep my dogs in the fenced yard alone without supervision 24/7?
byu/Spongebob_Sq inFinland
Von Spongebob_Sq
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From my understanding its really not so black and white. You absolutely are responsible for your dogs actions, if your dog bites someone in normal circumstances that would fall on you, and this also is the case even on private property.
However, if someone is actually trespassing/doing illegal stuff, its possible the courts can ease your liability or remove it completely, but its risky because afaik there’s no clear line.
E.g if the postman or wolt driver gets bit, you’re probably screwed. A kid ringing your doorbell as a prank? You’re also probably screwed. Jehovahs witness? You’re screwed. A criminal trying to break in? You’re probably fine. So its going to be dependent on things you don’t control. This is my understanding at least. Mostly commenting to follow the thread though because im curious what others say.
Ur mega fucked if they bite anyone.
In finland you are not allowed to protect anything you own with any proper means. This includes your property, and yes if your dogs attack someone who comes to your property, you are responsible for it and warning signs or anything wont do any good.
That liability is also relative. The court is not going to do you for murder if the dogs happen to feast on a random idiot crossing a fence covered in warning signs.
In that case the financial liabilty will far outweigh any actual legal liability. Should it ever come to that part, its probably financially a better option if the intruder dies vs. gets maimed and „unable to work“ for life.
As sad as it is, in that case, walking up to the scene and finishing the job yourself is still more sound financially.
Either make the fence un-climbalble across the whole property (like, barbed wire and a minefield or something…) or keep the dogs in a kennel when not supervised.
If they’re likely to eat Hilkka from the neighboring house, preferably at all times…
You are allowed to do this but and this is a big but if you have reason to believe your dogs could be aggressive you actually should either supervise them or keep them leashed when they are not supervised.
And you would be liable for damages caused by your dogs. The amount would mostly likely be reduced since it is a high fence with warning signs. People are supposed to avoid getting injured and if your own actions effect the outcome negatively it does usually lead to a smaller payment.
The biggest thing here tho is the fact that Finnish courts are super trigger happy when it comes to deciding whether a dog should be put down after an incident or not. So your dogs are actually mega screwed if they attack someone.
I don’t understand why you have to have these dogs outside „guarding the chickens“ if you have 1,8m high panssariaitaverkko fence around your property. What kind of whack ass fox climbs over that? Just keep the dogs inside if you are not home and let them run around the yard when you are home. Chickens will be safe anyway and you don’t have to worry about anyone getting hurt.
You should be fine as livestock dogs are used and in your case them being fenced in should help. If someone ignores 2 of those dogs Loud and clear warnings to fuck off and climbs a fence after ignoring the warnings there isn’t anything you could do. It’s easier to go through an electric fence to hug cows or horses at night, but I doubt that anyone would get punished if the person got hurt.