„Das ist ernst“: STARMER -Bestellungen bewegen sich in Richtung Digital ID -System
https://observer.co.uk/news/politics/article/this-is-serious-starmer-orders-move-towards-digital-id-system
Von JayR_97
„Das ist ernst“: STARMER -Bestellungen bewegen sich in Richtung Digital ID -System
https://observer.co.uk/news/politics/article/this-is-serious-starmer-orders-move-towards-digital-id-system
Von JayR_97
40 Kommentare
*The PM’s advisers believe an ID system could reduce friction between the public and the state*
Yeah, that’s not gonna happen.
We let them take an inch, now they are going to take a mile.
Didn’t take long to start slipping down that slope.
they can shove that, but sheepy supporters of his will lap it up and do what they are told
Of course I assume this means handing more fistfuls of cash to companies that have next to no impact on the economy. Surely if we keep handing money to tech and finance eventually it will trickle down to your average brit, it hasnt worked for 20 years but surely this time it will
I really have never understood the opposition in this country to you know, basic acts of state organisation that so many other countries manage without turning into a dystopian hell?
You can see how utterly cretinous objections are by the existence of photo card driving licenses and passports. The government already has this data about most people, who are the off-gridders concerned by this?
As an example, when you have to start using you government ID to access websites, and insurers and mortgage providers can access your browsing history.
They can piss off, i ain’t going down this slippery slope.
I agree with a proper ID system but I bet it gets given to one of the usual government contractors who will massively overcharge and make a crap job of implementing it.
We probably should have had this a decade ago, it would fix all sorts of abuses and fraud.
Can’t say I’m too optimistic about any British government getting it done without costing a fortune or it working as intended though.
>A new internal paper by the Tony Blair Institute
It figures that that twat is involved in some way.
My hot take, i think it makes a lot of sense and i don’t really mind.
In principal i think you can have a well organised strong state or a poorly organised loose state. At the moment we are trying for a poorly organised strong state.
How else will they hold you to account for your anonymous online posts via VPN about topics critical of government policy if you’re not using your name and your approved social media account linked to your digital ID.
Starmer is a technocrat at heart. Which means he has not a scintilla political insight.
Literally everything coming out of Downing Street is now based on numbers not feelings.
This is a good thing, genuinely. This is also the correct way to establish online content restrictions in an anonymous way.
I have a driver’s license looked after by one body, a passport by another, taxes by a third, health by a fourth, voting by a fifth… and they all need permission to talk to each other. This is silly. It can be centralised and streamlined.
At the same time, a default national ID, like one’s National Insurance Number but better, can be used to generate a one time “this user is over-18” proof token that isn’t tied to any of my real IDs. This is a firewall between having your face scanned or passport scanned to see content.
There’s no reason not to have a proper, modern, centralised, digital ID system.
Between ID cards , OSA and the limits placed on the rights of trans people, the Starmer Government is shaping up to be the most socially conservative in YEARS.
Even the Conservative governments before it, which you would expect to be pretty strict, did things like legalise gay marriage (extending it from civil partnerships) and reform abortion in Northern Ireland.
That’s on top of the horrifically unpopular tax and spending choices they’ve been making. It’s almost like he’s got a job offer for the second half of 2029 and the last thing he wants is a second term.
They’ve gone nuts with authoritarianism lately wtf.
Labour are becoming the nazis with all this control
So, a digital ID to control people who arrive on boats with zero ID is effective, how? Oh, wait think of the children
Well now you can’t be claiming benefits if you’re not a citizen or vote if you’re not a citizen or all those other things people are so very worried about…
Congratulations
Could you just issue an official approved Wank Card please and have done with it 👍
Every time I see a savage put down of this increasingly incompetent and authoritarian government on reddit, in the back of my mind I sense clampdowns like this being their next agenda.
I wonder if Keir Starmer has ever had a single independent thought
Get these fucking cunts out of Parliament, I swear.
These comments are absolutely unhinged which really proves what a bubble Reddit users are in.
ID cards are used by most countries including most of Europe.
Digital ID is absolutely needed for 21st century government services.
ID card system can and would cut down on illegal immigration.
Christ, it’s been a nice year I’ve spent back here in the UK, but it has also really solidified why I left in the first place. I wish you all the best and hopefully some sanity can return to this island.
How the fuck are they worse than the tories. How is that even possible?
The digital ID isn’t to track the intimate details of your life. It’s to have a single profile for interacting with all government services. For example you break your leg and can’t work, within your profile are all the messages from the NHS and DWP if you had to get support. Or DVLA if you also take your car off the road. Some EU countries are miles ahead of this country digitally.
With each day that passes the U18’s they’re going to give the vote to are going to be the group that brings them down.
The exact opposite of what they planned.
This was always the plan, get ready for 15 minute cities, social credit scores tied to your cbdc wallet, you’ll own nothing and be happy
It seems like this country is doing everything backwards, a digital id that really worked and allowed to prove your age without revealing identifying information to third parties would have made OSA a lot easier to swallow.
Instead they’ll force through two policies which no one likes.
Authoritarian rule under torys and authoritarian rule under labour.
*Though no announcement is expected imminently, a No 10 source said any hurdles were practical, not philosophical, particularly around ensuring that elderly people, or those without mobile phones, are not excluded.*
“What do you mean you don’t use the internet? C’mon everyone does, add your driving license into this website, Sonny Jim.”
Good we need digital ID. Other countries have it and surprise surprise they aren’t 1984. Everyone needs to calm themselves and realise an actual ID system would help sort out the mess we have created.
I might be absolutely dense but is this not in a sense a good idea?
It makes immigration control easier as it would I assume for immigrants be directly connected to the HO and thus you can show easily your right to stay. If people are here illegally then they would not have access.
Citizenship records can be easily proven and registered and it means having everything in one place. Less chance of fraud and easier to keep track of people.
I am happy to be proven wrong if needed
This is what they do.
Rather than fix the underlying issues that people are getting frustrated about, Labour just seem intent on silencing any criticism through whatever means possible
Feels like the U.K. is heading into a really dark place
Absolutely fucking not, get fucked Labour. Don’t act shocked if Farage gets in.
Simple. Go offline and use pen and paper.
You cannot apply for an ID without Internet access.
This will be a huge can of worms.
If it’s online it WILL be hacked!
It’s a crazy politician who wants to go down in history as the one who allowed Russian or Chinese hackers to steal the identities of an entire country.
Reckless doesn’t begin to describe the lunacy!
The Government should serve the people, not the other way round.