It’s been over 20 years since the idea was first floated and it still doesn’t exist.
It’s mad how incapable of building anything we are.
Old-Amphibian416 on
It will end up costing x 3 and it would surprise me if there was a special tax introduced to pay for it.
ArtRevolutionary3929 on
Spend it on high-speed rail instead. There’s loads of airport capacity in the country if we got rid of all the short-haul flights.
Lammtarra95 on
Let Heathrow take over RAF Northolt just across the road rather than spend tens of billions of pounds diverting railway lines and motorways.
No-Potential-7242 on
I don’t understand why the Heathrow situation doesn’t get the kind of attention HS2 does. The expansion efforts have probably cost more and have certainly taken much longer. The very epitome of the UK’s dysfunction.
And it’s for the same reasons: the British class system. A lazy, entitled managerial/government class full of people who have never set foot in a maths or science classroom and whose experience with those who have is made up of telling immigrant IT workers to make their devices work. Boomers expecting to be able to dictate that they either make a massive profit from whatever is going on or get to shut it down and make it happen to other people. Experts who are being ignored because they’re not the kind of people who get a look in in government.
I’m an environmentalist but it has been clear for my entire life that Heathrow needs to expand. The new runway probably won’t be sufficient. We need a coherent transportation system, not one where there are different airports dotted all over the place near London. It is beyond ridiculous that the situation has been allowed to drag on for so long.
GuyLookingForPorn on
>Heathrow’s plans, which it estimates would be completed within a decade, include:
>
>Creation of a third runway, called the „North-Western Runway“, which would be up to 3,500m (11,500 ft) long. Heathrow bosses say this will increase capacity to 756,000 flights and 150m passengers a year – it currently serves about 84m
>
>A new terminal called T5X, expanding Terminal 2 and three new satellite terminals. It would close Terminal 3
>
>Enhancement of local rail connections, plus walking and cycling routes
>
>Diversion of the M25, which would involve a new road tunnel under the airport, and widening the motorway between junctions 14-15
>
>Creation of two new Heathrow parkways
>
>Improvements to Heathrow’s bus and coach stations
GuyLookingForPorn on
The actual runway will only cost £21 billion, but they are including other plans to improve the airport infrastructure and upgrade terminals:
>Heathrow said it would cost £21bn to build the third runway, which includes procuring the land, changing the M25 and other associated infrastructure costs while building the new terminal would be £12bn and modernising the current airport’s infrastructure £15bn. Due to rounding, it will total £49bn.
macrolidesrule on
Another gravy train for lawyers and consultants, with nothing to show for it when it gets cancelled, other than a mountain of bills.
nick9000 on
I have an idea – let’s live with the runways we have and save £49bn. Bonus: less CO2 emissions.
jvlomax on
Bet you they’ll stop the project as soon as it gets anywhere north of Oxford
CarlxtosWay on
Just ignore the inevitable NIMBY nonsense about the human rights of those under the flight path like the inhabitants of Battersea Dogs Home etc. and build the damn thing.
Humacti on
with the coffee prices in there, they’ll soon get it back.
francisdavey on
The dithering is amazing. Either it is, or is not, a good idea that is supported by the government. We may disagree or not. But if the answer is „no“ then stop. If „yes“ then get on with it.
SaltSatisfaction2124 on
I don’t understand how it could cost this much ?
Even the actual runway costing £21b, unless 90% of it is land cost ?
xParesh on
Heathrow’s owners are a private company so they cost is to them. It would be fascinating to see how they control their costs compared to when the government tries to build something
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Just fucking build it.
It’s been over 20 years since the idea was first floated and it still doesn’t exist.
It’s mad how incapable of building anything we are.
It will end up costing x 3 and it would surprise me if there was a special tax introduced to pay for it.
Spend it on high-speed rail instead. There’s loads of airport capacity in the country if we got rid of all the short-haul flights.
Let Heathrow take over RAF Northolt just across the road rather than spend tens of billions of pounds diverting railway lines and motorways.
I don’t understand why the Heathrow situation doesn’t get the kind of attention HS2 does. The expansion efforts have probably cost more and have certainly taken much longer. The very epitome of the UK’s dysfunction.
And it’s for the same reasons: the British class system. A lazy, entitled managerial/government class full of people who have never set foot in a maths or science classroom and whose experience with those who have is made up of telling immigrant IT workers to make their devices work. Boomers expecting to be able to dictate that they either make a massive profit from whatever is going on or get to shut it down and make it happen to other people. Experts who are being ignored because they’re not the kind of people who get a look in in government.
I’m an environmentalist but it has been clear for my entire life that Heathrow needs to expand. The new runway probably won’t be sufficient. We need a coherent transportation system, not one where there are different airports dotted all over the place near London. It is beyond ridiculous that the situation has been allowed to drag on for so long.
>Heathrow’s plans, which it estimates would be completed within a decade, include:
>
>Creation of a third runway, called the „North-Western Runway“, which would be up to 3,500m (11,500 ft) long. Heathrow bosses say this will increase capacity to 756,000 flights and 150m passengers a year – it currently serves about 84m
>
>A new terminal called T5X, expanding Terminal 2 and three new satellite terminals. It would close Terminal 3
>
>Enhancement of local rail connections, plus walking and cycling routes
>
>Diversion of the M25, which would involve a new road tunnel under the airport, and widening the motorway between junctions 14-15
>
>Creation of two new Heathrow parkways
>
>Improvements to Heathrow’s bus and coach stations
The actual runway will only cost £21 billion, but they are including other plans to improve the airport infrastructure and upgrade terminals:
>Heathrow said it would cost £21bn to build the third runway, which includes procuring the land, changing the M25 and other associated infrastructure costs while building the new terminal would be £12bn and modernising the current airport’s infrastructure £15bn. Due to rounding, it will total £49bn.
Another gravy train for lawyers and consultants, with nothing to show for it when it gets cancelled, other than a mountain of bills.
I have an idea – let’s live with the runways we have and save £49bn. Bonus: less CO2 emissions.
Bet you they’ll stop the project as soon as it gets anywhere north of Oxford
Just ignore the inevitable NIMBY nonsense about the human rights of those under the flight path like the inhabitants of Battersea Dogs Home etc. and build the damn thing.
with the coffee prices in there, they’ll soon get it back.
The dithering is amazing. Either it is, or is not, a good idea that is supported by the government. We may disagree or not. But if the answer is „no“ then stop. If „yes“ then get on with it.
I don’t understand how it could cost this much ?
Even the actual runway costing £21b, unless 90% of it is land cost ?
Heathrow’s owners are a private company so they cost is to them. It would be fascinating to see how they control their costs compared to when the government tries to build something