I’m fine with Palestine becoming a State. People just have to remember that every rocket fired into Israel would be considered an act of war that would let Israel do this all over again with legitimacy. That’s the reason Hamas didn’t want a two state solution.
broccolisbane on
I wish we’d followed France’s lead, but this is much better than the UK’s attempt to use Palestinian statehood as a bargaining chip with Israel.
nigerianwithattitude on
> The prime minister said the Palestinian Authority must commit to holding an election and other democratic reforms.
I’d like to hear a little bit more about what those reforms entail. Depending on the specifics, this could be a genuine attempt at inducing reform, or a way to preemptively justify backing away from recognition.
I’m also curious what this government plans to do ~~if~~ when Israel or the state-sponsored “settlers” in the West Bank try to undermine Palestinian attempts at reform.
MTL_Dude666 on
Canada being the country of the „rule of law“, we had to recognize Palestine especially when faced with an Israel government who is flouting every single international law regarding human rights.
ok-MTLmunchies on
„The prime minister said the Palestinian Authority must hold an election in 2026 and commit to other democratic reforms.
Carney’s announcement came after he spoke to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas earlier Wednesday — and follows similar commitments from other allied countries in the past week.“
*Well recognize you if your fake capo government is re-elected*
Pure Zionism
Annual-Sail8595 on
Somebody in the region is going to have to step up to guarantee security in the short term and ultimately Israel is going to have to agree.
Ive got no problem with a two state solution but someone not named Israel or the United States is going to have to come in, reform institutions, and ensure that extremism and violence are managed aggressively.
Without this guarantee and a third party to enforce it, hamas will come back and attack Israel and we’ll be right back where we are today and any interim recovery in gaza will be wiped out.
mxg308 on
Who leads Palestine? No real civil society. PLO is corrupt and incredibly unpopular and on the other side you have Hamas, PIJ and other minor terrorist groups who really won’t stop until they get a one state Palestinian state. Recognizing is fine just like we recognize Haiti and Somalia but how is that going for them?
Classic_Idea_5338 on
Why is everyone so naive? The root problem is about Palestinians inability to recognize and accept the Jewish state in their ancestral homeland.
They shout it loud and clear: from the river to sea…, we don’t want 2 states…
KvotheG on
This decision is not going to please a lot of people, on both sides of the issue. But regardless, this is the biggest shakeup to the Israel/Palestine issue in generations.
For the first time, three G7 countries are planning to recognize a Palestinian state. This is not insignificant. Will it lead to peace? Likely not. But it is movement on the issue, towards peace, and puts pressure on the Israeli government to see that they are quickly losing friends, which would push them to end the war quicker.
Good on Carney for this.
Chrristoaivalis on
Don’t fall for this.
Carney is demanding Palestine be fully demilitarized, while not demanding the same from the country genociding them
Good chance he backs down later this year.
stumpymcgrumpy on
Ill be the first to admit that I may have been wrong about Carney. So far his centrist governing is ticking all my political boxes. I know we’re all waiting for news on a deal with the US but somehow it feels like we finally have adults governing instead of whatever we had or could have had.
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I’m fine with Palestine becoming a State. People just have to remember that every rocket fired into Israel would be considered an act of war that would let Israel do this all over again with legitimacy. That’s the reason Hamas didn’t want a two state solution.
I wish we’d followed France’s lead, but this is much better than the UK’s attempt to use Palestinian statehood as a bargaining chip with Israel.
> The prime minister said the Palestinian Authority must commit to holding an election and other democratic reforms.
I’d like to hear a little bit more about what those reforms entail. Depending on the specifics, this could be a genuine attempt at inducing reform, or a way to preemptively justify backing away from recognition.
I’m also curious what this government plans to do ~~if~~ when Israel or the state-sponsored “settlers” in the West Bank try to undermine Palestinian attempts at reform.
Canada being the country of the „rule of law“, we had to recognize Palestine especially when faced with an Israel government who is flouting every single international law regarding human rights.
„The prime minister said the Palestinian Authority must hold an election in 2026 and commit to other democratic reforms.
Carney’s announcement came after he spoke to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas earlier Wednesday — and follows similar commitments from other allied countries in the past week.“
*Well recognize you if your fake capo government is re-elected*
Pure Zionism
Somebody in the region is going to have to step up to guarantee security in the short term and ultimately Israel is going to have to agree.
Ive got no problem with a two state solution but someone not named Israel or the United States is going to have to come in, reform institutions, and ensure that extremism and violence are managed aggressively.
Without this guarantee and a third party to enforce it, hamas will come back and attack Israel and we’ll be right back where we are today and any interim recovery in gaza will be wiped out.
Who leads Palestine? No real civil society. PLO is corrupt and incredibly unpopular and on the other side you have Hamas, PIJ and other minor terrorist groups who really won’t stop until they get a one state Palestinian state. Recognizing is fine just like we recognize Haiti and Somalia but how is that going for them?
Why is everyone so naive? The root problem is about Palestinians inability to recognize and accept the Jewish state in their ancestral homeland.
They shout it loud and clear: from the river to sea…, we don’t want 2 states…
This decision is not going to please a lot of people, on both sides of the issue. But regardless, this is the biggest shakeup to the Israel/Palestine issue in generations.
For the first time, three G7 countries are planning to recognize a Palestinian state. This is not insignificant. Will it lead to peace? Likely not. But it is movement on the issue, towards peace, and puts pressure on the Israeli government to see that they are quickly losing friends, which would push them to end the war quicker.
Good on Carney for this.
Don’t fall for this.
Carney is demanding Palestine be fully demilitarized, while not demanding the same from the country genociding them
Good chance he backs down later this year.
Ill be the first to admit that I may have been wrong about Carney. So far his centrist governing is ticking all my political boxes. I know we’re all waiting for news on a deal with the US but somehow it feels like we finally have adults governing instead of whatever we had or could have had.