Ich werde ziemlich bald 17 und werde mich für den Führerschein für den Lernenden bewerben und werde mit einem meiner Eltern auf der Beifahrerseite fahren. Nachdem ich meinen Kantons (Vaud) als Lerner überprüft habe, heißt es, dass die Fahrt mit dem elektronischen Parkbremsen (EPB), um die Fahrgastseite zugänglich zu machen, von der Beifahrerseite zugänglich von der Beifahrerseite, die von der Rechtsanwaltschaft zugänglich ist. Die EPB in meinem Elternauto (Mercedes GLC 2024) befindet sich auf der linken Seite des Fahrers (wie auf dem Bild gezeigt) und ist theoretisch zugänglich (mit einigen Aufwand). Kann ich also das Auto meiner Eltern fahren und was riskiere ich im Falle eines Polizeistopps?

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    1. No.

      Edit: And the Law is quite clear. You may want to reconsider driving if you cant understand basic and easy Laws

    2. i mean i guess not but tbh i drove our car too while learning and the EPB was nowhere near accessible from the passenger side

    3. flowers-n-unicorns69 on

      Are those electronic parking brakes actionable at speed? Regardless of their placement.

    4. No, you can’t, and you risk losing your licence and your passenger will get reprimanded too. Not worth it.

    5. Just go to the driving lessons, they provide a car and an instructor will teach you 100x better than your parents, and it’s not like you can’t afford it..

    6. Wdym its not clear?

      Do you want them to leap over you in 0.5s to react to a situation?

    7. wow. a mercedes looks that fugly from the inside these days? what’s that? a car, or a video game?!?

    8. swiss_drone on

      Yes you can.

      Just make a cut in left part of the driving seat. Your parent will be able to sit on the seat behind you and put the leg through the hole of your seat, close to the brake.

      /s

    9. Doc_October on

      Short answer: No, you cannot.

      Long answer: The passenger must be able to stop the car in an emergency situation. In a normal car without a second set of pedals, the parking brake is the only way to do that and thus it must be easily accessible by the passenger while seated and with the seat belt on. This quirk of Mercedes, putting the PB to the left of the steering wheel, makes it so they aren’t allowed as cars for Learner Drivers. It doesn’t even matter if the parking brake is mechanical or electronic.

      Assuming you had the EPB in the middle between the seats, even then it might not enough. In addition to being easily accessible, an EPB must also meet other criteria:
      – Is adjustable in braking strength using the lever or button, and can be disengaged too. All of this must also be possible while the car is driving.
      – Can be engaged while driving, even when the gas pedal is pressed.
      – When engaged, pressing the gas pedal does not automatically disengage it.

      Most EPBs only meet some of these points or none at all, so those cars also aren’t allowed. A quick google search suggested that ASTRA plans to revise the current law from the 1970s and adjust it to modern cars with EPBs, but as far as I could tell, that hasn’t happened yet.

    10. andanothetone on

      I guess you’ll find the answer yourself if you think about why accessibilty is a requirement…

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