Why the hell would you need an app for something like this? Data mining privacy nightmare.
Lights in NL seem to work just fine without another damn app…
ChickenTandoori on
Sway is the only one for bikes, app made by de Gov, you can’t even find it directly on the playstore or find anything about it online. Somewhere I found a link to the app on the playstore to be able to download it and it just shows the time of the red light. But there still is some delay, so not really useful.
Also first article is from 2023, so in two years they do not have anything useful to show for it it seems
Yeah, let’s install a separate app from the government for 150 traffic lights…
And then people ask why there’s so many budget cuts.
You can’t explain this to anyone not living in Belgium.
astro-the-creator on
Yeah I’ve read whole article and still don’t know what’s app name or even how to get it. I’ll probably still use Waze tho simply because it connects to Spotify
Secret_Divide_3030 on
Het is niet zo intelligent om een systeem uit te rollen zonder dat de grote spelers aan boord zijn als je die ook effectief nodig gaat hebben. Hoeveel kost dat systeem en wiens idee was dat?
Glexius on
I would love to have a solution for cyclists and pedestrians for not having to press a button each time they want to cross.
Motion sensors are way more user-friendly
nslenders on
dat verklaart wel waarom ik soms op een grote baan rijd, de lichten voor mij op groen zie springen in de verte. En dan 1.5 seconden later terug op rood.
Er was waarschijnlijk iemand op dat kleine zijstraatje met zo een app. En op de drukke hoofdbaan niemand met zo een app.
Mixh2700 on
This is the stupidest idea ever, requiring phones and 3rd party apps. Who’s gonna always use some gps app when driving, walking or cycling? Its a privacy nightmare, an unnecessary drain on battery life and another way our society depends on smartphones (and their OSes are a duopoly of 2 US tech giants).
I’m all for smart traffic lights if they detect traffic with sensors at the light, which I believe is the way the Netherlands do it.
JohnnyricoMC on
IMO we don’t need app-linked traffic lights, we just need more sensor-equipped traffic lights. Ones that work the same way as the Dutch‘ lights do. When you approach an intersection and it’s red but there’s no other traffic coming from any of the other directions, those frequently skip their cycle and jump to green. Preventing unnecessary stops and starts where you can is better for the environment too.
hmtk1976 on
I think AWV should do something intelligent with the variable speed limits at the Antwerpse Ring.
Coming from the E17 this is typical: 110 – 90 – 70 – 50 – 70 – 100 – 50 – 70 – 50 – …
Mavamaarten on
My thought is, someone earned a lot of money on a dumb project again.
In the Netherlands, their lights are smart by having sensors in the road and near the lights. Why did they go for an app-based mediocre solution, that forces everyone to implement those changes in their apps? Or forces people to install an additional app, that I (in IT so I’m not poorly informed) haven’t even heard of?
Obviously a big international company like Google isn’t just going to implement connections to shitty third party API’s for every small project a country comes up with? And obviously you’re not going to be able to just pull their data (how busy streets are) from their data sources, that’s their source of income and their cash cow. Just a dumb fucking move to expect that from them.
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Why the hell would you need an app for something like this? Data mining privacy nightmare.
Lights in NL seem to work just fine without another damn app…
Sway is the only one for bikes, app made by de Gov, you can’t even find it directly on the playstore or find anything about it online. Somewhere I found a link to the app on the playstore to be able to download it and it just shows the time of the red light. But there still is some delay, so not really useful.
Also first article is from 2023, so in two years they do not have anything useful to show for it it seems
My first thought is privacy hell
https://preview.redd.it/kpvf4ne7oref1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=1d104e72eee7f03fdcaae01ab88475ef277b7f41
Yeah, let’s install a separate app from the government for 150 traffic lights…
And then people ask why there’s so many budget cuts.
You can’t explain this to anyone not living in Belgium.
Yeah I’ve read whole article and still don’t know what’s app name or even how to get it. I’ll probably still use Waze tho simply because it connects to Spotify
Het is niet zo intelligent om een systeem uit te rollen zonder dat de grote spelers aan boord zijn als je die ook effectief nodig gaat hebben. Hoeveel kost dat systeem en wiens idee was dat?
I would love to have a solution for cyclists and pedestrians for not having to press a button each time they want to cross.
Motion sensors are way more user-friendly
dat verklaart wel waarom ik soms op een grote baan rijd, de lichten voor mij op groen zie springen in de verte. En dan 1.5 seconden later terug op rood.
Er was waarschijnlijk iemand op dat kleine zijstraatje met zo een app. En op de drukke hoofdbaan niemand met zo een app.
This is the stupidest idea ever, requiring phones and 3rd party apps. Who’s gonna always use some gps app when driving, walking or cycling? Its a privacy nightmare, an unnecessary drain on battery life and another way our society depends on smartphones (and their OSes are a duopoly of 2 US tech giants).
I’m all for smart traffic lights if they detect traffic with sensors at the light, which I believe is the way the Netherlands do it.
IMO we don’t need app-linked traffic lights, we just need more sensor-equipped traffic lights. Ones that work the same way as the Dutch‘ lights do. When you approach an intersection and it’s red but there’s no other traffic coming from any of the other directions, those frequently skip their cycle and jump to green. Preventing unnecessary stops and starts where you can is better for the environment too.
I think AWV should do something intelligent with the variable speed limits at the Antwerpse Ring.
Coming from the E17 this is typical: 110 – 90 – 70 – 50 – 70 – 100 – 50 – 70 – 50 – …
My thought is, someone earned a lot of money on a dumb project again.
In the Netherlands, their lights are smart by having sensors in the road and near the lights. Why did they go for an app-based mediocre solution, that forces everyone to implement those changes in their apps? Or forces people to install an additional app, that I (in IT so I’m not poorly informed) haven’t even heard of?
Obviously a big international company like Google isn’t just going to implement connections to shitty third party API’s for every small project a country comes up with? And obviously you’re not going to be able to just pull their data (how busy streets are) from their data sources, that’s their source of income and their cash cow. Just a dumb fucking move to expect that from them.