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    1. Heavy-Hall4457 on

      And then down in paragraph 5:

      ‚This reflects a trend seen across Europe‘

      Ok – so it’s NOT specifically a UK thing.

    2. WonderingOctopus on

      For anyone interested, I work in a sector that helps struggling people try and get into jobs.

      70%+ of people struggling are male according to our internal statistics. (last I checked)

    3. Definitely_Human01 on

      So we’re going to have specific and targeted support for men and boys now that they’re the ones lagging behind right?

    4. Legitimate-Leg-4720 on

      If women on average have partners a few years above their own age, isn’t that part of the reason? They’ll be able to move out sooner with a dual income. 

    5. John_Williams_1977 on

      How does that work if the ratio of men to women is about the same.

      Women living with other women? Women living alone by choice?

    6. robtheblob12345 on

      Yeah because it’s way more common for women to live with an older male partner than vice versa.

    7. OilAdministrative197 on

      Not really suprising tbh. Women generally go out with older guys specifically because they have stability and a house. Equally, women are far more likely to get council houses especially if they already have kids where as single men basically have no chance. Easiest way to save for a deposit is to live with parents, job done.

    8. purply_otter on

      George Orwell observed similar in 1933 Down and Out in Paris and London

      Generally, most women can easily find some man to live with, if she very desperately wants to move out of her parents house (or whatever her situation is.) The woman doesn’t even need to be young or beautiful, she will find a place.

      Men struggle to do the same

      It’s why there are more homeless men than women

      He observed this in both France and UK

    9. Sea-Caterpillar-255 on

      I’m 40, decent income and gay and I have found the rental market very restricted as so many properties are only on offer to women. Being young, male and not on 100k a year must be a nightmare…

    10. Dizzy_Association315 on

      My partner ended up moving back in with his parents when his ex left him.

      To be fair in that time we’ve been together it’s enabled him to save for a deposit, and we’re not far off being able to get our own place.

      Personally I never loved with mine after moving out for uni cos they quite lovingly told me in my final year if uni „you understand you’ve moved out and this is no longer home and there’s no coming back after uni?“ 😬 (Despite all 3 of my siblings being welcomed back). When I split with my ex (who cheated and was abusive) my parents didn’t offer to help at all…I mean my mum did say „but who’s going to pay the rent if he moves out?“ But that was it really.

    11. Interesting, so what are young women doing differently not to live with parents?

    12. Jacktheforkie on

      That’s because wages here are so low we can’t afford half a million quid

    13. I am 23 and I am currently saving for a house with my boyfriend while we both live at home. We are looking at buying within the next year.

      My friends that are women have moved out or have large deposits and have plans to move out. Majority of my friends that are men seem to have absolutely no desire to move out or any motivation. I know many even nearing their 30s that still live at home with their parents and zero plans to look for houses and move out. And tbh a lot of it isn’t the case of people having no money because some of these people are on more money than me and house prices are extremely cheap around here as well. I don’t know why there is such a difference between my friends that are men vs women but its something ive noticed. The only men I know who have moved out have moved in with their girlfriends. I just find it strange because I want nothing more than to buy a house and no longer live at home.

    14. Personal_Lab_484 on

      Are men not behind in everything? Like education, earnings, social networks, romantic relationships etc.

      And to top it off men homeless is acceptable whereas women are deemed high risk and put immediately into priority housing. So they’re more likely to not be able to move out even in abusive circumstances.

      Of course even in abusive situations they’re not seen as abusive and men are mocked for coming forward.

    15. onetimeuselong on

      And continuing the trend since the mid 00’s we continue to act baffled that men aren’t thriving in a world designed around:

      Complex emotional communication skills

      No physical strength requirements in well paid work

      Advanced degrees for previously apprenticeship roles (requiring essay writing to pass, see point 1).

      Competition in schools discouraged.

    16. I believe it.

      young women out earn young men.
      They go into higher education in higher percentages, and thus do receive better jobs.

      This is in addition to the pushes for more women in STEM, and other high-paying male dominated field.

      No effort to get more women into being bin-workers or brick layers though, which is strange /s

      We’re going on for years and years of a skewed education system that favours women. And now seeing the results. The other factors such as women being more organised to move in with friends, the dating older (and thus having more money from someone career established).

      I honestly don’t get wtf 18-26 year old men are actually expected to do? They’ve got no chance.

    17. the fucks going on in this thread. half the comments are blaming this all on women golddigging and half think the best way to get more support for men is doing weird „mens rights“ self pity. (theres loads of good mens mental health groups popping up recently btw, and a lot get govt funding).

      Its a cultural thing, and its very complex: a lots from a world not long ago where everyone shacked up young, and women were homemakers. Plenty of dads about who cant cook or clean; and plenty of kids who look up to them. to the modern fucked economy: where young guys are encouraged to save money by staying at home so they save to buy/get into stocks or crpyto/ or just have a coke or drink habit that hurts their ability to rent.

      To the loneliness problem gripping young men, which means rounding up a few pals and housesharing is really hard, or that living on their own would be isolating compared to staying with their folks

      its really complex, and really hard to fix, but just going for tired fucking tropes isnt helping anyone but get some little reddit points.

    18. I think the simple answer is, young women have more options than young men when it comes to all sorts of issues relating to staying at home or moving out. Relationships, university, job opportunities etc. I didn’t go to uni, and spent my late teenage years and early 20s struggling to find work and lived at home. This was over a decade ago. My confidence and self-esteem was rock bottom. Fast forward 10 years and I’ve bought my own place and have gone from strength to strength in my career.

      TLDR, I think it takes men longer to get their shit together and become the man they want to be. Society doesn’t make it easy for young men, but if you persevere, you’ll get there eventually!

    19. Because young men don’t have a shining heroine in armour to whisk them away and live their best lives together. Men now have to work hard for a fraction of what women get.

    20. Main-Practice3274 on

      Women are given things completely unconditionally and are taught to expect this from birth, whereas men are learn pretty quickly via pattern recognition that if they don’t provide and contribute they are worthless, and undeserving of compassion.

      Most people in need are men, zero fucking programs, no one gives a shit about them, except their parents.

      I’d be curious to see how keen they would be to protect a nation and society that treats them this way. What are they fighting for? Basement dwelling?

    21. PatrickDCally on

      I know this may be an unpopular opinion, but I believe some of the points raised do have merit. Part of the issue likely stems from young men underperforming in school and university compared to their female peers. Anecdotally, I’ve also noticed that men often seem to mature more slowly.

      Here’s the controversial part of my view: in male-dominated fields, hiring managers are often men themselves. When two candidates, one male and one female, apply fresh out of university with no work experience, the female candidate may sometimes have an advantage. This can be due, in part, to various diversity initiatives aimed at increasing female representation in these fields, such as in programming or tech.

      Additionally, there’s a subtle social dynamic at play. Young women by virtue of youth, which is often tied to perceived attractiveness, may benefit from subconscious biases. Male hiring managers might enjoy working around young women more or feel more reluctant to fire them. These biases, whether intentional or not, can result in young women receiving an edge in early hiring decisions and through this process they get experience quicker and climb those initial stages of the corporate ladder faster.

      This is really controversial too so I apologise. But I do also believe they are held to a lower standard than their male counterparts within the workplace. More is done to not upset them, and they are catered for within male dominated environments in a way the equivalent man wouldn’t be. I have seen women shouted at by their boss, cry and their boss has been forced to „make it better“. Try this as a man and see where it gets you. This is an extreme end of this unfairness but their is an imbalance across the spectrum.

      This unfairness also contributes to the difference in perception of women and men when they are older. There appears to be a feeling later on that women were essentially treated with kid gloves in their career up to that point, so relative to a woman, a man is seen as more accountable and reliable as this is assumed it is the way they have been treated since their work life began. I think this is unfair too, but this prejudice appears to put them in good stead in their career at a later stage, it then serves as a negative bias against woman.

      I think the problems and unfairnesses women face are numerous but talked about often. I think the unfairnesses young men have to suffer are minimised and ignored.

    22. Successful_Head2676 on

      They live with there parents because a single male is not a protected characteristic for temporary housing or social housing. You will never seen a woman living on the streets.

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