Seems like a waste of money if they arent going to take an actual crack at understanding what went wrong
„Are we out of touch?
No, its the voters who are wrong“
cjwidd on
These people are insufferable losers and can no longer be in charge
CrimsonFeetofKali on
Running an obviously aging 82 year-old and replacing him at the last minute with a platform that failed to draw distinctions between Democrats and MAGA….or blame trans people. Hmmm….which will they choose!? The Democrats will look anywhere but the mirror.
plightro on
Straight from the Hildawg school of sore loserdom.
Blame everyone except for the party, encourage your base to mindlessly do the same, fundraise aggressively to make the same mistake in four years, come in second and start fundraising all over again.
Establishment dems benefit from republican presidencies.
potato_bus on
Might have something to do with their dismal 37% favorability. One of the bipartisan areas in our country is broad agreement for how inept is the DNC.
We’ve been hearing about postmortem election autopsies by the GOP and the DNC for years after losses. Neither is capable or interested in self reflection. They will double down on the same stuff and just hope the other party performs slightly worse in swing states next time around. Same as it ever was.
Ammuze on
„What do the fish want? My opponent offers them salt while I offer them dry land. What could it possibly be?“
championkid on
Let’s get some people into politics who actually have something to lose.
7figureipo on
>“We are not interested in second-guessing campaign tactics or decisions of campaign operatives,” Jane Kleeb, Nebraska Democratic chairwoman, told the *Times*. “We are interested in what voters turned out for Republicans and Democrats, and how we can fix this moving forward.”
This could be a smart way to look at it. The reasons 2024 happened the way it did go way beyond the strategic and messaging decisions in this one election. There are systemic and structural issues that democratic policies for 30+ years have contributed to, which have slowly but surely alienated middle-class and working class Americans. A longer-term post-mortem is necessary to identify these issues and develop a plan to address them.
Since it’s Democrats, however, they’ll focus on messaging and never bother to consider whether they have structural problems. They’ll end up blaming the voters for being too dumb or too sexist, etc., instead of their own failures. Just like they always do.
NaziModsFuckOffNow on
>“We are not interested in second-guessing campaign tactics or decisions of campaign operatives,” Jane Kleeb, Nebraska Democratic chairwoman, told the Times. “We are interested in what voters turned out for Republicans and Democrats, and how we can fix this moving forward.”
Look up Jane Kleeb and it makes sense how the Democratic Party is a controlled opposition party. She’s a Republican that’s been wearing a Democratic cloak for 10 years to gain one-party power to prevent any meaningful action.
Final-North-King on
The problem was inflation. They were in charge during a poor economic time which is very rare for democrats. At the same time we had a very uninspiring president who couldn’t communicate properly to Americans. Next time don’t gaslight the country when they are struggling.
blorpdedorpworp on
DNC: „how can we win elections?“
Mamdani: „I can show you! Make concrete, specific promises that will directly help all your constituents with their cost of living! Ignore what the elites want and focus on helping actual voters directly!“
DNC: „no, not like that“
Such_Newt_1374 on
Some gems from the article:
>The party is planning to avoid reviewing decisions like whether President Joe Biden should have run for reelection, whether he should have dropped out of the race sooner, or whether Vice President Kamala Harris was the right candidate
>Democrats are choosing not to reckon with uncomfortable questions about their failures.
>“We are not interested in second-guessing campaign tactics or decisions of campaign operatives,”
>The report will likely argue that the Democrats’ main super PAC, Future Forward, did not spend enough time attacking Trump and spent too much time speaking positively about Harris.
>But as the Times previously reported, the data-driven team at Future Forward argued throughout the 2024 campaign that negative ads weren’t useful against Trump
We’re so fucked. The DNC is more interested is justifying their terrible decisions, rather than actually saving the party from themsleves. I think the Democratic party should just be put out of its misery, it’s just pointlessly suffering at this point, it cant survive much longer anyways. These old fucks have no interest in anything but saving face.
EuphoricTravel1790 on
I canceled my Act Blue donations a while ago. The DNC is a center-right shit show unconcerned with people.
ParticularBeing6686 on
Neoliberals are just Regan era conservatives with a new name.
DeliriousPrecarious on
Relitigating one off decisions like not forcing Biden out (or how one would even do that) seems fine. The decision to not have a primary though should be revisited. This has come up again and again and it’s clear that the chaos of a primary is preferable to the the optics of a coronation. democrats aren’t republicans. They aren’t looking for a king.
ChaseThoseDreams on
At this point they, for the most part, feel like controlled opposition to keep things status quo for their corporate donors.
William_Redmond on
It’s a controlled opposition party. Nothing more
loztriforce on
They should’ve demanded a recount in all swing states
Miserable_Artist_223 on
How is there not an actual investigation into actual events of election fraud every single presidential election.
We practically know that the don would do everything he could get people who he can blackmail or manipulate to do whatever they can do to fraud the system. Why arent people doing whatever they can to prove that hes just as fraudulent as he says everyone else is.
FledglingNonCon on
Why does it always feel like our only 2 choices are evil or incompetence?
CompleteBuilding1156 on
The catastophic election defeat engineered by the Democratic Establishment should have resulted in mass resignations/terminations. And instead… nothing changed. Deny, deflect, admit no fault. This political party is stupid, ineffective, corrupt, and undemocratic. It is positively Trumpian. Burn it down.
Aern on
The Democratic party would rather lose than win by going to the left. Their purpose is to serve as managed resistance while still allowing the business friendly agenda to continue to roll through Congress. This is why when a truly progressive candidate like Bernie or Zohran gains any momentum, they fight tooth and nail to prevent that candidate from achieving anything. Even now party leadership won’t endorse Zohran because his politics and platform threatens the only thing the Democratic party actually cares about, their corporate donors.
Jiveturkeey on
„We want to take an unflinching look at our past mistakes in hopes of doing better in the future.“
„So you’re going to examine Biden’s decision to run again, or his choice to step aside so late in the campaign?“
„Well we’re not going to do it like *that*.“
DingerSinger2016 on
The inevitable party split postmortem from the Dems is gonna take industrial levels of kerosene to fuel that gaslight.
Zer_ on
Establishment Democrats will never actually go all the way with self reflection because for all the talk, they still serve the same Billionaire class that Trump’s fascists do. And so long as the majority of Democrats continue to serve Billionaires, they will continue to mount ineffective, milquetoast opposition to Trump’s policies, which further nornalizes fascism.
Deluxe_24_ on
The clock is ticking for a viable third party to gain momentum for the midterms and 2028 election. Any progressive party that rises has my vote, fuck the dems.
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Seems like a waste of money if they arent going to take an actual crack at understanding what went wrong
„Are we out of touch?
No, its the voters who are wrong“
These people are insufferable losers and can no longer be in charge
Running an obviously aging 82 year-old and replacing him at the last minute with a platform that failed to draw distinctions between Democrats and MAGA….or blame trans people. Hmmm….which will they choose!? The Democrats will look anywhere but the mirror.
Straight from the Hildawg school of sore loserdom.
Blame everyone except for the party, encourage your base to mindlessly do the same, fundraise aggressively to make the same mistake in four years, come in second and start fundraising all over again.
Establishment dems benefit from republican presidencies.
Might have something to do with their dismal 37% favorability. One of the bipartisan areas in our country is broad agreement for how inept is the DNC.
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/favorability/democratic-party
We’ve been hearing about postmortem election autopsies by the GOP and the DNC for years after losses. Neither is capable or interested in self reflection. They will double down on the same stuff and just hope the other party performs slightly worse in swing states next time around. Same as it ever was.
„What do the fish want? My opponent offers them salt while I offer them dry land. What could it possibly be?“
Let’s get some people into politics who actually have something to lose.
>“We are not interested in second-guessing campaign tactics or decisions of campaign operatives,” Jane Kleeb, Nebraska Democratic chairwoman, told the *Times*. “We are interested in what voters turned out for Republicans and Democrats, and how we can fix this moving forward.”
This could be a smart way to look at it. The reasons 2024 happened the way it did go way beyond the strategic and messaging decisions in this one election. There are systemic and structural issues that democratic policies for 30+ years have contributed to, which have slowly but surely alienated middle-class and working class Americans. A longer-term post-mortem is necessary to identify these issues and develop a plan to address them.
Since it’s Democrats, however, they’ll focus on messaging and never bother to consider whether they have structural problems. They’ll end up blaming the voters for being too dumb or too sexist, etc., instead of their own failures. Just like they always do.
>“We are not interested in second-guessing campaign tactics or decisions of campaign operatives,” Jane Kleeb, Nebraska Democratic chairwoman, told the Times. “We are interested in what voters turned out for Republicans and Democrats, and how we can fix this moving forward.”
Look up Jane Kleeb and it makes sense how the Democratic Party is a controlled opposition party. She’s a Republican that’s been wearing a Democratic cloak for 10 years to gain one-party power to prevent any meaningful action.
The problem was inflation. They were in charge during a poor economic time which is very rare for democrats. At the same time we had a very uninspiring president who couldn’t communicate properly to Americans. Next time don’t gaslight the country when they are struggling.
DNC: „how can we win elections?“
Mamdani: „I can show you! Make concrete, specific promises that will directly help all your constituents with their cost of living! Ignore what the elites want and focus on helping actual voters directly!“
DNC: „no, not like that“
Some gems from the article:
>The party is planning to avoid reviewing decisions like whether President Joe Biden should have run for reelection, whether he should have dropped out of the race sooner, or whether Vice President Kamala Harris was the right candidate
>Democrats are choosing not to reckon with uncomfortable questions about their failures.
>“We are not interested in second-guessing campaign tactics or decisions of campaign operatives,”
>The report will likely argue that the Democrats’ main super PAC, Future Forward, did not spend enough time attacking Trump and spent too much time speaking positively about Harris.
>But as the Times previously reported, the data-driven team at Future Forward argued throughout the 2024 campaign that negative ads weren’t useful against Trump
We’re so fucked. The DNC is more interested is justifying their terrible decisions, rather than actually saving the party from themsleves. I think the Democratic party should just be put out of its misery, it’s just pointlessly suffering at this point, it cant survive much longer anyways. These old fucks have no interest in anything but saving face.
I canceled my Act Blue donations a while ago. The DNC is a center-right shit show unconcerned with people.
Neoliberals are just Regan era conservatives with a new name.
Relitigating one off decisions like not forcing Biden out (or how one would even do that) seems fine. The decision to not have a primary though should be revisited. This has come up again and again and it’s clear that the chaos of a primary is preferable to the the optics of a coronation. democrats aren’t republicans. They aren’t looking for a king.
At this point they, for the most part, feel like controlled opposition to keep things status quo for their corporate donors.
It’s a controlled opposition party. Nothing more
They should’ve demanded a recount in all swing states
How is there not an actual investigation into actual events of election fraud every single presidential election.
We practically know that the don would do everything he could get people who he can blackmail or manipulate to do whatever they can do to fraud the system. Why arent people doing whatever they can to prove that hes just as fraudulent as he says everyone else is.
Why does it always feel like our only 2 choices are evil or incompetence?
The catastophic election defeat engineered by the Democratic Establishment should have resulted in mass resignations/terminations. And instead… nothing changed. Deny, deflect, admit no fault. This political party is stupid, ineffective, corrupt, and undemocratic. It is positively Trumpian. Burn it down.
The Democratic party would rather lose than win by going to the left. Their purpose is to serve as managed resistance while still allowing the business friendly agenda to continue to roll through Congress. This is why when a truly progressive candidate like Bernie or Zohran gains any momentum, they fight tooth and nail to prevent that candidate from achieving anything. Even now party leadership won’t endorse Zohran because his politics and platform threatens the only thing the Democratic party actually cares about, their corporate donors.
„We want to take an unflinching look at our past mistakes in hopes of doing better in the future.“
„So you’re going to examine Biden’s decision to run again, or his choice to step aside so late in the campaign?“
„Well we’re not going to do it like *that*.“
The inevitable party split postmortem from the Dems is gonna take industrial levels of kerosene to fuel that gaslight.
Establishment Democrats will never actually go all the way with self reflection because for all the talk, they still serve the same Billionaire class that Trump’s fascists do. And so long as the majority of Democrats continue to serve Billionaires, they will continue to mount ineffective, milquetoast opposition to Trump’s policies, which further nornalizes fascism.
The clock is ticking for a viable third party to gain momentum for the midterms and 2028 election. Any progressive party that rises has my vote, fuck the dems.