Abgeordnete fordern die Wartungsstipendien für Schüler und schlagen ein „Mindesteinkommen“ vor, um die UNI -Lernenden zu kämpfen
https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/mp-call-for-student-maintenance-grants-minimum-income/
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This sub will come with the usual take on students because they hate everything that isn’t miserable.
Any smart country improves it’s educating and pushes it’s highest learners. A sign of societal decline is the anti intellectual push we see. Every other nation is doing this but Britain is in a state of sadism just like the US and we are selling off the country and our futures and too many of you are happy because you win your argument online.
This needs to happen as well as initiatives into trade work, school learning at all levels.
Sir, this is the UK. We don’t bother with the young and futures here.
Build more houses. Ditch net zero.
Housing & energy costs take a good chunk out of a student’s income
Student loan didn’t even cover accommodation back when I was a student. God knows how today’s manage it.
Investing in the young?
This is a terrible idea. Instead we should divert more money to “Asylum Seekers” and Pensioners
Honestly, as a very recent university graduate (graduated 3 days ago), it’s a good start to have these conversations, but I think neither of these are sustainable solutions.
Which is not a bad thing, since obviously it’s just an initial call from an MP and they can work out a more sustainable way of managing this.
But just because I went to university, doesn’t mean I deserve a higher minimum income over someone who didn’t, that fosters classism and a necessity of attending university. And that leads to my other point which is thet universities in the way they exist now are not sustainable.
You already have too many graduates for the number of available subject-specific roles, and now you want to make university a necessity to be paid a minimum income, that won’t work out in the long run.
What you need is the reintroduction of polytechnic institutes, which were made into universities in a push for ‚higher class‘-ness, when polytechnics are actually great for teaching real working skills and preparing students for careers that are sustainable that the country wil always need.
Terrible idea, I think we should redirect the potential funds for this straight into the pockets of retirees instead. ^(/s)
I’m almost 40 and probably need to reskill but can’t afford to. This would help a lot more than just the 18-22 year olds
As an aside, this would also level the playing field so that kids from poorer backgrounds can actually study and get *good* marks, instead of juggling multiple jobs and simply passing.
I remember the EMA thing back in college. It was something like £30 a week. I didn’t get it because apparently my parents were “high earners” or whatever.
So kids from lower-income households got the £30 and I got nothing.
It was a similar story at uni. No grant for me, just the standard loan. I lived at home and commuted in since it was only about 25 miles away.
I’ve never understood why everything is based on parental income. Like with school trips. I only went on a couple of the abroad ones because my parents didn’t see the point in spending £500 to £1000 on them. Yet if your parents were on benefits, the whole thing would be covered for you. I only went on a France and Germany trip rather than the New York one, but we did eventually go as a family back in 2016
As long as the funds are available to everyone i don’t see the issue. Always annoyed me that the kids of parents who don’t work got everything all paid for, yet my parents who worked full time and paid 40 percent taxes got naff all.
I studied in Australia, and received Youth Allowance through Centrelink. Implementation (and Centrelink) issues aside, it had a massive impact on my ability to study as someone from a poorer background and who had to move for university. Though it was also available for young people searching for work or doing apprenticeships.
If we want young adults in training then we need to support them, otherwise access to training depends a lot on your family wealth
Universities are becoming an outdated concept in the age of AI
How we deliver education has to change. The tax payer can no longer subsidize these people.
The Tories, Reform and right leaning voters like the MAGA in the US would never support this.
This is because this enables more people to receive higher education. The problem with this is that you’ll end up with a more educated and informed general electorate who tend to not vote for the Tories or Reform.
Labour should push this through with their majority.
Should depend on what you want to study.
If you go to Uni to avoid having to work for another 3 years, then study Social Science, Gender Studies or some other worthless degree then you should take the hit on the loans.
I agree and I’m going to indulge in a little anecdote. Education was my salvation from a life time of entrenched poverty in the Roma community; without my education at university I’d be living in such privation and criminality that I’d be everything the Roma stereotype conveys.
Education is the greatest social elevation in life. I’d go a lot further than this MP, I’d advocate for free university for all especially those languishing in poverty and the abolishing of student debt.
I’d also stigmatise the enmity of communities who disdain higher education as “too white” or “too western.” The ignorance is astounding.
Uni is a harrowing experience for the poor and a 3 year stint to take drugs and party for the rich.
Most people I know who partied all through uni and dropped out ended up getting a job from daddy too.
That money would help the poorest of us actually survive the most broke years of their lives.
Do we not give the Albanian mafia enough money as it is?
Why is it that university students have to take out a loan (with 3% interest + inflation) just to live, whereas an unemployed NEET gets money handed by the government. It’s hypocrisy, the British system seems to punish education and effort while incentivizing doing nothing.
We should have a return to the 90s, university (and technical FE) should be free and funded by the state, but to make that work you need to not send everyone there. We don’t need Jenny with a BA in Film Evaluation from the University of West Anglia or whatever, those courses are a complete waste of time and taxpayer money. But we *do* need Dave from Bolton to feel like he can afford to go to a good uni to take physics.
And we also need top quality technical colleges or technical universities, like Brookes and Keele and a few others that still carry a name cachet. The polys should never have been rolled into being just universities – they are now a second tier of rubbish universities, when what they should be is a top tier of technical training centres. These should be funded by a business levy, since they are doing the training that businesses need.
We need a minimum income for people doing apprenticeships too.
I went to uni in the 1st half if the 90s. They’d just binned Student Grants in Scotland around 5 years beforehand.
All my lecturers (certainly those who were under 40) said they would never have been able to go to uni, nevermind fund their Ph.Ds without student grants.
I needed 2 part-time jobs, which obviously took my free time when I should have been drink…er.. studying.
We need grants for training and studying, but also Universal Basic Income – how the hell we will pay for it? Wealth and land tax, that’s how.