Won’t that take the fun out of the Notting Hill crime carnival?
limeflavoured on
>LFR was trialled at the carnival in 2016 and 2017 but was ditched after it wrongly flagged 102 people as potential suspects.
Unless the tech has substantially improved then what’s the point?
Sensitive_Echo5058 on
The problem with NHC is that too many people attend.
Every bank holiday weekend is a nightmare in that area. It’s not just that it attracts criminals – it’s the people urinating on your front door or littering that makes it unpleasant for some local residents.
Virtual-Feedback-638 on
How about doing that at Wimbledon, Grand National, Football matches, etc?
nasrudin45 on
Whether it’s effective or not, it seems that live facial recognition could be coming to more public places in London soon. Already being trialled for tube stations to catch fare dodgers, apparently:
Is there any sort of consultancy / legal hurdles for implementing this sort of surveillance?
Cpt_TomMoores_jacuzi on
Oh goody, that’s not dystopian at all… perhaps we could have some sort of system where you get, I dunno, credit or something, for behaving like the government want you to and we could like tie it to whether people can access goods and services… that seems like a great way to a healthy society!
kanben on
Facial recognition and government control over what you can see on the Internet
What could go wrong
Ill-Case-6048 on
What a waste of money they have cameras to catch people stealing and the cops still don’t do anything about it.
AdorableFlan8952 on
Anyone who disagrees with this has not stayed at a carnival once the Magnums kick in
2point4children on
Its a good time to get into the Balaclava business
klaz_omaniac on
Not trying to fear monger, just connecting the dots of recent technologies and government actions and propositions.
If you can’t see how far this could go, mix it with the proposed digital ID which gives you access to banking, the NHS and other public services. Let’s say you go to a protest and the government doesn’t like it, they know you were there because you were caught on facial recognition; or you’re seen with someone who’s known to have ties with groups the government doesn’t like. Your digital ID doesn’t need to be revoked, but your priority on accessing public services is lowered meaning you have to wait longer to see a doctor, or your benefits might be revoked. Alternatively if they do revoke your digital ID, you can’t access any public services.
This is not far fetched, we’ve already seen with the proscription of Palestine Action and those in support getting arrested simply for holding signs. With Facial recognition and Digital ID combined, they don’t need to arrest you, they can simply just make navigating public life impossible.
We’ll go one step further and add that some police forces are already using Palantir to scrape databases and social media to build a profile that can be matched to you by means of facial recognition. If you post something or are involved with groups that promote ideas the government doesn’t like, effectively thought crime, then refer to the previous paragraph.
Facial recognition in and of itself is not the issue here (although there are many issues with it in terms of ethics), it’s how it will be used in conjunction with other systems and by authorities.
We’ve also already seen this in the real world, where people have been mistakenly identified by Facial Recognition and barred from shops for suspected shoplifting, and any shop using the same system will also have you listed on their barred list, making it impossible to use a supermarket.
It’s an incredibly authoritarian enabling technology and if you don’t think it will be abused, think again. It’s a very slippery slope into full on Orwellian authoritarianism and you won’t be immune to its effects.
yamamsbuttplug on
Just cancel it, wtf would anyone wanna attend stabfest 2025?
Alarmed_Inflation196 on
Then football matches, arenas, train stations etc Rapidly gaining momentum until it’s fully normalised
bobbynomates on
Why don’t they just cancel this fucking abomination.
This demographic seemingly cannot meet up in large numbers without chaos ensuing for some reason.
Such a shame , it’s either infectious positive energy or savage violence over insanely petty stuff , zero middle ground .
Banana_Tortoise on
“Why don’t you go and lock up rapists and murderers?”
Police invest in tech to help catch such people.
“How dare they use facial recognition”
Can’t win 🤷♂️
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Won’t that take the fun out of the Notting Hill crime carnival?
>LFR was trialled at the carnival in 2016 and 2017 but was ditched after it wrongly flagged 102 people as potential suspects.
Unless the tech has substantially improved then what’s the point?
The problem with NHC is that too many people attend.
Every bank holiday weekend is a nightmare in that area. It’s not just that it attracts criminals – it’s the people urinating on your front door or littering that makes it unpleasant for some local residents.
How about doing that at Wimbledon, Grand National, Football matches, etc?
Whether it’s effective or not, it seems that live facial recognition could be coming to more public places in London soon. Already being trialled for tube stations to catch fare dodgers, apparently:
[https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/facial-recognition-cameras-fare-dodging-tube-london-underground-tfl-b1237049.html](https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/facial-recognition-cameras-fare-dodging-tube-london-underground-tfl-b1237049.html)
Is there any sort of consultancy / legal hurdles for implementing this sort of surveillance?
Oh goody, that’s not dystopian at all… perhaps we could have some sort of system where you get, I dunno, credit or something, for behaving like the government want you to and we could like tie it to whether people can access goods and services… that seems like a great way to a healthy society!
Facial recognition and government control over what you can see on the Internet
What could go wrong
What a waste of money they have cameras to catch people stealing and the cops still don’t do anything about it.
Anyone who disagrees with this has not stayed at a carnival once the Magnums kick in
Its a good time to get into the Balaclava business
Not trying to fear monger, just connecting the dots of recent technologies and government actions and propositions.
If you can’t see how far this could go, mix it with the proposed digital ID which gives you access to banking, the NHS and other public services. Let’s say you go to a protest and the government doesn’t like it, they know you were there because you were caught on facial recognition; or you’re seen with someone who’s known to have ties with groups the government doesn’t like. Your digital ID doesn’t need to be revoked, but your priority on accessing public services is lowered meaning you have to wait longer to see a doctor, or your benefits might be revoked. Alternatively if they do revoke your digital ID, you can’t access any public services.
This is not far fetched, we’ve already seen with the proscription of Palestine Action and those in support getting arrested simply for holding signs. With Facial recognition and Digital ID combined, they don’t need to arrest you, they can simply just make navigating public life impossible.
We’ll go one step further and add that some police forces are already using Palantir to scrape databases and social media to build a profile that can be matched to you by means of facial recognition. If you post something or are involved with groups that promote ideas the government doesn’t like, effectively thought crime, then refer to the previous paragraph.
Facial recognition in and of itself is not the issue here (although there are many issues with it in terms of ethics), it’s how it will be used in conjunction with other systems and by authorities.
We’ve also already seen this in the real world, where people have been mistakenly identified by Facial Recognition and barred from shops for suspected shoplifting, and any shop using the same system will also have you listed on their barred list, making it impossible to use a supermarket.
It’s an incredibly authoritarian enabling technology and if you don’t think it will be abused, think again. It’s a very slippery slope into full on Orwellian authoritarianism and you won’t be immune to its effects.
Just cancel it, wtf would anyone wanna attend stabfest 2025?
Then football matches, arenas, train stations etc Rapidly gaining momentum until it’s fully normalised
Why don’t they just cancel this fucking abomination.
This demographic seemingly cannot meet up in large numbers without chaos ensuing for some reason.
Such a shame , it’s either infectious positive energy or savage violence over insanely petty stuff , zero middle ground .
“Why don’t you go and lock up rapists and murderers?”
Police invest in tech to help catch such people.
“How dare they use facial recognition”
Can’t win 🤷♂️