Are Reform voters finally about to find out that politics isn’t as simple as screaming slogans and blaming everyone else?
TheLyam on
Letting us all know what we already did, Reform do not stand for the average person.
Odd_Ninja5801 on
I said when they got all these councilors elected that this could be the best thing that could happen. Because we’d get to see just how useless these people are in a substantial way, and the next GE will see Reform actually running on their record.
Shining a light on cockroaches might be scary, but at least once you know you have cockroaches you can start to plan how to deal with them.
After-Dentist-2480 on
Strange, that seems to be the exact opposite of what they were saying before the election.
They aren’t stopping any boats, either.
Tirisian88 on
Everyone is saying reforms not doing anything, I would like to see a breakdown for the social care budget.
I’m curious what it includes, if it includes go salaries or residential doctors it wasn’t too long ago there was something about them potentially striking for yet another 20% salary increase.
AlanBeswicksPhone on
Bit of a strange line to take considering social care is funded by a separate precept rather than council tax.
Locke66 on
This will be exactly what happens if people are fooled into voting them into national power. All the social stuff that helps low-medium income people will suddenly be „unaffordable“ while the rich make out like bandits. These people are extreme neoliberals.
_JR28_ on
There you have it in no uncertain terms, Reform are _not_ standing for the common person.
adm010 on
Shocker – governing is harder than just being opposition in moaning about everything
ShortGuitar7207 on
Welcome to the real world Nige, so your promises are just as empty as the other parties? Seems like working is a lot harder than just criticising other people working.
Thunder_Runt on
Didn’t labour also reject calls for cutting council tax for struggling families? I don’t think tories cut council tax either, whats the story here?
PatTheCatMcDonald on
Brexit has bankrupted the country and now Monsewer Fartrage has another „Great Idea“?
supermegaburt on
To be fair social care is a massive problems for all local governments and needs sorting out….
But it’s always fun seeing reform having to back track and people see what frauds these grifters are
iamezekiel1_14 on
No shit. Did you really need Reform to tell you this? Welcome to one of the driving factors which is bankrupting the country.
EdmundTheInsulter on
So reading that, as we know really, most councils are under financial pressure or even bankruptcy, by making cuts they can reduce council tsx rises, but not cut it.
If you have a council with ring fenced net zero budgets and dei, you may find council tax going up more.
BlackCaesarNT on
Basically, we don’t want to fuck with pensioners so we aren’t gonna do anything…
michaelisnotginger on
James Butler in the LRB noted this two months ago
> t has been suggested that Reform will implode on contact with office. The press will certainly discover that some of its elected officials are not-so-crypto-fascists, cranks or crooks. It is very likely that they will run their councils into the ground (or simply leave the difficult bits to the officials they decry). They will find their hands are tied with statutory obligations and their budgets consumed by adult social care. But for the opportunist politician this simply provides an occasion for congenial fights: we could collect your bins better if we closed that migrant hotel, or the money we would have spent on potholes was eaten up by mandatory diversity assessments. Farage could well tour the news studios and accuse central government of shunting problems it doesn’t want to deal with – social care, special needs provision, statutory homelessness duties – onto local councils while slashing the funding needed to deal with them. And he’d have a point.
Strange_Awareness605 on
Are reform voters waking up yet? They are the party for the elite- just like starters Labour, which is practically Tory.
Luke_4686 on
The reality of governing and just shouting slogans
mars-jupiter on
Turns out you can’t have low taxes whilst also having a massive welfare state, you have to pick one or the other.
Absolute shocker I know…
PurahsHero on
Hang on. Weren’t our bills going to fall when Reform councillors tackled the boats, got rid of woke DEI stuff, and banned climate change?
CCFC1998 on
Oh no, the thing we all knew was going to happen has happened…
zonked282 on
It’s so easy to grift money from the sidelines blaming the ones in power and giving easy answers, no right wing politician with half a brain cell should ever actually want to get elected, it always crumbles so spectacularly within the first year
ManOnNoMission on
Reform blaming the disabled, this won’t be the last time.
All any party has to do is stop unwanted immigration and youd be in office for 30years. Farage is copying trumps slogans to get power, including doge, but he wont do shit, he just wants his hands in the trough. I wish and hope sumat like corbyn can happen, his radical policies will be blocked, he has a lot of sensible policies
Stabbycrabs83 on
It does suck a bit when you have no family in care or other issues that you are paying £100-300 per month to take care of someone else family.social care should never have been privatised.
To be clear I want people to get an acceptable level of care in old age or infirmity. Right now though everyone scream blue murder if you try and make the system more efficient. That’s mostly because the people doing the screaming don’t pay the bill and will not accept having to travel say 30 minutes.
Appreciate this will be a pretty unpopular viewpoint but we can’t just keep asking people to fund more and more so that everyone gets everything they want
notmichaelgood on
This isn’t news, they don’t stand for people like you and me, they don’t care and would rather see us dead
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Are Reform voters finally about to find out that politics isn’t as simple as screaming slogans and blaming everyone else?
Letting us all know what we already did, Reform do not stand for the average person.
I said when they got all these councilors elected that this could be the best thing that could happen. Because we’d get to see just how useless these people are in a substantial way, and the next GE will see Reform actually running on their record.
Shining a light on cockroaches might be scary, but at least once you know you have cockroaches you can start to plan how to deal with them.
Strange, that seems to be the exact opposite of what they were saying before the election.
They aren’t stopping any boats, either.
Everyone is saying reforms not doing anything, I would like to see a breakdown for the social care budget.
I’m curious what it includes, if it includes go salaries or residential doctors it wasn’t too long ago there was something about them potentially striking for yet another 20% salary increase.
Bit of a strange line to take considering social care is funded by a separate precept rather than council tax.
This will be exactly what happens if people are fooled into voting them into national power. All the social stuff that helps low-medium income people will suddenly be „unaffordable“ while the rich make out like bandits. These people are extreme neoliberals.
There you have it in no uncertain terms, Reform are _not_ standing for the common person.
Shocker – governing is harder than just being opposition in moaning about everything
Welcome to the real world Nige, so your promises are just as empty as the other parties? Seems like working is a lot harder than just criticising other people working.
Didn’t labour also reject calls for cutting council tax for struggling families? I don’t think tories cut council tax either, whats the story here?
Brexit has bankrupted the country and now Monsewer Fartrage has another „Great Idea“?
To be fair social care is a massive problems for all local governments and needs sorting out….
But it’s always fun seeing reform having to back track and people see what frauds these grifters are
No shit. Did you really need Reform to tell you this? Welcome to one of the driving factors which is bankrupting the country.
So reading that, as we know really, most councils are under financial pressure or even bankruptcy, by making cuts they can reduce council tsx rises, but not cut it.
If you have a council with ring fenced net zero budgets and dei, you may find council tax going up more.
Basically, we don’t want to fuck with pensioners so we aren’t gonna do anything…
James Butler in the LRB noted this two months ago
> t has been suggested that Reform will implode on contact with office. The press will certainly discover that some of its elected officials are not-so-crypto-fascists, cranks or crooks. It is very likely that they will run their councils into the ground (or simply leave the difficult bits to the officials they decry). They will find their hands are tied with statutory obligations and their budgets consumed by adult social care. But for the opportunist politician this simply provides an occasion for congenial fights: we could collect your bins better if we closed that migrant hotel, or the money we would have spent on potholes was eaten up by mandatory diversity assessments. Farage could well tour the news studios and accuse central government of shunting problems it doesn’t want to deal with – social care, special needs provision, statutory homelessness duties – onto local councils while slashing the funding needed to deal with them. And he’d have a point.
Are reform voters waking up yet? They are the party for the elite- just like starters Labour, which is practically Tory.
The reality of governing and just shouting slogans
Turns out you can’t have low taxes whilst also having a massive welfare state, you have to pick one or the other.
Absolute shocker I know…
Hang on. Weren’t our bills going to fall when Reform councillors tackled the boats, got rid of woke DEI stuff, and banned climate change?
Oh no, the thing we all knew was going to happen has happened…
It’s so easy to grift money from the sidelines blaming the ones in power and giving easy answers, no right wing politician with half a brain cell should ever actually want to get elected, it always crumbles so spectacularly within the first year
Reform blaming the disabled, this won’t be the last time.
https://bsky.app/profile/stephenkb.bsky.social/post/3lqmizrtvk22l
All any party has to do is stop unwanted immigration and youd be in office for 30years. Farage is copying trumps slogans to get power, including doge, but he wont do shit, he just wants his hands in the trough. I wish and hope sumat like corbyn can happen, his radical policies will be blocked, he has a lot of sensible policies
It does suck a bit when you have no family in care or other issues that you are paying £100-300 per month to take care of someone else family.social care should never have been privatised.
To be clear I want people to get an acceptable level of care in old age or infirmity. Right now though everyone scream blue murder if you try and make the system more efficient. That’s mostly because the people doing the screaming don’t pay the bill and will not accept having to travel say 30 minutes.
Appreciate this will be a pretty unpopular viewpoint but we can’t just keep asking people to fund more and more so that everyone gets everything they want
This isn’t news, they don’t stand for people like you and me, they don’t care and would rather see us dead