Can’t help but feel the BBC are using him as an additional scapegoat to deflect from their own failings in dealing with Wallaces allegations better and earlier.
Like – by no means am I saying what he has or hasn’t done is ok. But one *allegation* of a racial term, which he apologized for, and he’s dismissed?
Substantial_Sock_135 on
Ainsley Harriott and his spicy meat in to replace him
BobBobBobBobBobDave on
I imagine him and Gregg with two GGs aren’t the best of mates right now.
As I understand it this was something that happened several years ago and would never have come up again if it wasn’t for the internal investigation into Gregg Wallace being a perv.
killerstrangelet on
Yeah, after Huw Edwards I’m going to wait before saying he probably didn’t deserve to go. End of an era, I liked Masterchef.
AnOrangeBeanbag on
Many years ago he was the chef guy on This Morning. The way Richard or Judy pronounced his name meant for years I honestly thought his name was Jonty Rhode.
This triviality is obviously not related to the actual news.
I suppose though that now both are disgraced that the BBC will pull everything from iPlayer.
Death_Binge on
He said „let’s have a look at that buttery biscuit base.“
very_unconsciously on
I quite liked John Torode, he knew what he was talking about. Wallace was just a gurning chancer who shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near an audience.
Time to be rid of MasterChef – it’s just the same thing over and over and over. No evolution. Just pretentious foodies pretending their version of a boiled egg is somehow superior to everyone else’s boiled eggs. Rince and repeat.
wishbeaunash on
Does seem a bit harsh but to be honest I’ve always found him intensely unlikeable so I can’t really see it as a big loss. Actually might watch Masterchef if they can replace him and Wallace with someone a little less unbearable.
lastaccountgotlocked on
Lloyd Grossman would be turning in his grave if he were dead.
ohnondinmypants on
Can’t really form an opinion without knowing what he said? Someone must know?!?!
Just seen that the comment whatever it was, was made in 2018, no complaint made at the time, the person who has subsequently raised the matter did not believe it was said in malice…
Loreki on
Why is any of this Masterchef gossip such big news? I really don’t understand why one dysfunctional work place generates a whole week or not of news.
Were both of them hated in media circles, so editors are milking their downfalls?
quadrifoglio-verde1 on
I really hope Monica Galetti gets the lead presenter role if they decide to continue with Masterchef. I think she’s a great presenter and her skills tests are brilliant.
MoHataMo_Gheansai on
It’s the Richard Keys/Andy Gray 9/11 moment of the cooking world.
FantasticBath8934 on
Torode has ended up as bonus dish to be served up alongside Wallace’s head. Whatever he said was serious I’m sure but he would still be in a job if Wallace had not created an investigation into the whole show with his behaviour meaning other things swept under the carpet got looked into
VehicleWonderful6586 on
Asked how he felt about the decision he said “the f***ing BBC is full of ***** and ******* who are out to get me”
recursant on
Elsewhere there is a post about the BBC angling for everyone to be forced to pay a licence fee whether they watch the BBC or not.
I don’t want to be funding them at all, in any way.
DazzleLove on
Amazing 1 racist comment gets you sacked but it takes a LOT of women coming forward from fairly systematic mysogyny, indecent exposure etc etc some of which was on film for Gregg to be ditched. Clearly both are abhorrent but women clearly still don’t matter to the BBC
colin_staples on
Well I guess they definitely won’t be showing the series that was already filmed then.
Unlucky-Jello-5660 on
So its a 7 year comment he apologised for and the other person didnt even think it was meant maliciously?
Seems like a bit of an overcorrection because of the Greg stuff.
It’s amazing a friendly cooking show can be a disaster.
MogwaiYT on
Wallace undoubtedly needed to go but giving Torode the boot stinks of being a clean up job. Getting rid of their dirty laundry and hoping that it draws a line under yet another BBC scandal.
TwiztedMizta on
Well it’s what Social Media wanted so hopefully now the ratings will go sky high like Top Gear did…
Sudden-Conclusion931 on
1 allegation from 6-7 years ago that you used an offensive term in a social setting, that the accuser says was not used maliciously and was apologised for straight away…and your livelihood is taken away from you? Jesus…
fplisadream on
SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT HE’S ALLEGED TO HAVE SAID I HAVE TO KNOW
alwayssausages on
Time for change. Adam Byatt should take over. He’s an amazing chef and apparently a really nice guy.
old-billie on
Time to clear house fresh start. John torode tainted only a matter of time
Puzzled_Ad1296 on
Tiny Chef and the Swedish chef to host Mastermind from now on, the campaign starts here.
MetalWorking3915 on
Now I am not condoning anything these 2 have done but I do wonder how long BBC have known and not done anything. It almost feels like they use these to force change rather than maybe doing the right thing when they know.
jnthhk on
They should bring back Grossman! And if he won’t come back, the guy who did it before with the strong Boston accent.
Pandita666 on
Shit…we might end up with Scott Mills at this rate
Few-Improvement-5655 on
I understand why Wallace has been sacked, though Torode’s sacking seems a bit harsh.
kitbashpowerhead on
Seems unequal to both have the same punishment, what John was found to have said and all the things Gregg was found to have done
gamojqig on
Marcus and Monica to take over? Or are they gonna bring in fresh faces? Perhaps masterchef in this current format has gone as far as it can go. There is so much food content on our telly these days , not to mention youtube. I reckon John and Lisa will end up doing something now then.
0113420710 on
The BBC ruining its own headline programme for no good reason
salamanderwolf on
Get Jay Rayner in. He would be awesome. Pair him with a real chef, like Angela Hartnett.
Or for a curve ball, Ed Gamble and James Acaster.
unbelievablydull82 on
So he made a mistake 7 years ago, was corrected, apologised, and cleared up the situation, but still ends up sacked. Of course.
Aware_Group_443 on
How about Si King from the hairy bikers? Maybe bring back Michel Roux for the normal series too?
madeleineruth19 on
Sorry, this is a bit ridiculous. First of all, why is no one sharing what was actually said that was racist. I feel like context is important in this case. Second of all, why is he being fired for an incident that happened seven years ago, wherein the victim themselves seemingly took no offence?
I’m ‘woke’ and usually the first person to call for consequences for stuff like this. But this whole thing feels like a knee jerk reaction, and it’s unfair.
That said, the guy never spoke up all these years about Wallace, so who really knows what’s going on under the surface.
d_repz on
Let this be a lesson: watch your language now for it might come back to bite you years down the road.
Pleasant-Squirrel220 on
So what was the offensive word he used?
Why do I get the feeling they went hunting for a reason to sack.
Main_Illustrator_197 on
Probably wanted out after all the controversy anyway
The same BBC too scared to broadcast a documentary about Gaza because it may upset the Israelis and have the broadcaster smeared by Israel as anti semitic? That BBC?
BroodLord1962 on
It’s the winner of this years show I feel sorry for because the show has already been filmed but might never air, not even on the iPlayer
bombedoutmebox on
My girlfriend worked at his restaurant for 5+ years.
Trust me he is a grade A scumbag and abused a lot of staff and was constantly coked up. He also had multiple affairs and had to be kept off shifts from women he’d harassed.
He’s 10 times worse than Gregg, but kept it all under wraps.
CedricTheCurtain on
Not sacked, contract not renewed. A small but significant difference.
Salt-Plankton436 on
Seems absolutely farcical this. This guy says something that potentially unjustly offended someone who knows how long ago which is „upheld“ (aka someone else agreed?) and that’s a career over. Joke country and joke spineless corporations.
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Can’t help but feel the BBC are using him as an additional scapegoat to deflect from their own failings in dealing with Wallaces allegations better and earlier.
Like – by no means am I saying what he has or hasn’t done is ok. But one *allegation* of a racial term, which he apologized for, and he’s dismissed?
Ainsley Harriott and his spicy meat in to replace him
I imagine him and Gregg with two GGs aren’t the best of mates right now.
As I understand it this was something that happened several years ago and would never have come up again if it wasn’t for the internal investigation into Gregg Wallace being a perv.
Yeah, after Huw Edwards I’m going to wait before saying he probably didn’t deserve to go. End of an era, I liked Masterchef.
Many years ago he was the chef guy on This Morning. The way Richard or Judy pronounced his name meant for years I honestly thought his name was Jonty Rhode.
This triviality is obviously not related to the actual news.
I suppose though that now both are disgraced that the BBC will pull everything from iPlayer.
He said „let’s have a look at that buttery biscuit base.“
I quite liked John Torode, he knew what he was talking about. Wallace was just a gurning chancer who shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near an audience.
Time to be rid of MasterChef – it’s just the same thing over and over and over. No evolution. Just pretentious foodies pretending their version of a boiled egg is somehow superior to everyone else’s boiled eggs. Rince and repeat.
Does seem a bit harsh but to be honest I’ve always found him intensely unlikeable so I can’t really see it as a big loss. Actually might watch Masterchef if they can replace him and Wallace with someone a little less unbearable.
Lloyd Grossman would be turning in his grave if he were dead.
Can’t really form an opinion without knowing what he said? Someone must know?!?!
Just seen that the comment whatever it was, was made in 2018, no complaint made at the time, the person who has subsequently raised the matter did not believe it was said in malice…
Why is any of this Masterchef gossip such big news? I really don’t understand why one dysfunctional work place generates a whole week or not of news.
Were both of them hated in media circles, so editors are milking their downfalls?
I really hope Monica Galetti gets the lead presenter role if they decide to continue with Masterchef. I think she’s a great presenter and her skills tests are brilliant.
It’s the Richard Keys/Andy Gray 9/11 moment of the cooking world.
Torode has ended up as bonus dish to be served up alongside Wallace’s head. Whatever he said was serious I’m sure but he would still be in a job if Wallace had not created an investigation into the whole show with his behaviour meaning other things swept under the carpet got looked into
Asked how he felt about the decision he said “the f***ing BBC is full of ***** and ******* who are out to get me”
Elsewhere there is a post about the BBC angling for everyone to be forced to pay a licence fee whether they watch the BBC or not.
I don’t want to be funding them at all, in any way.
Amazing 1 racist comment gets you sacked but it takes a LOT of women coming forward from fairly systematic mysogyny, indecent exposure etc etc some of which was on film for Gregg to be ditched. Clearly both are abhorrent but women clearly still don’t matter to the BBC
Well I guess they definitely won’t be showing the series that was already filmed then.
So its a 7 year comment he apologised for and the other person didnt even think it was meant maliciously?
Seems like a bit of an overcorrection because of the Greg stuff.
New MasterChef presenter revealed!
https://youtu.be/Os82UYqssSc?si=bUrPtlKDz0PtfUkB (from the Smell of Reeves and Mortimer)
It’s amazing a friendly cooking show can be a disaster.
Wallace undoubtedly needed to go but giving Torode the boot stinks of being a clean up job. Getting rid of their dirty laundry and hoping that it draws a line under yet another BBC scandal.
Well it’s what Social Media wanted so hopefully now the ratings will go sky high like Top Gear did…
1 allegation from 6-7 years ago that you used an offensive term in a social setting, that the accuser says was not used maliciously and was apologised for straight away…and your livelihood is taken away from you? Jesus…
SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT HE’S ALLEGED TO HAVE SAID I HAVE TO KNOW
Time for change. Adam Byatt should take over. He’s an amazing chef and apparently a really nice guy.
Time to clear house fresh start. John torode tainted only a matter of time
Tiny Chef and the Swedish chef to host Mastermind from now on, the campaign starts here.
Now I am not condoning anything these 2 have done but I do wonder how long BBC have known and not done anything. It almost feels like they use these to force change rather than maybe doing the right thing when they know.
They should bring back Grossman! And if he won’t come back, the guy who did it before with the strong Boston accent.
Shit…we might end up with Scott Mills at this rate
I understand why Wallace has been sacked, though Torode’s sacking seems a bit harsh.
Seems unequal to both have the same punishment, what John was found to have said and all the things Gregg was found to have done
Marcus and Monica to take over? Or are they gonna bring in fresh faces? Perhaps masterchef in this current format has gone as far as it can go. There is so much food content on our telly these days , not to mention youtube. I reckon John and Lisa will end up doing something now then.
The BBC ruining its own headline programme for no good reason
Get Jay Rayner in. He would be awesome. Pair him with a real chef, like Angela Hartnett.
Or for a curve ball, Ed Gamble and James Acaster.
So he made a mistake 7 years ago, was corrected, apologised, and cleared up the situation, but still ends up sacked. Of course.
How about Si King from the hairy bikers? Maybe bring back Michel Roux for the normal series too?
Sorry, this is a bit ridiculous. First of all, why is no one sharing what was actually said that was racist. I feel like context is important in this case. Second of all, why is he being fired for an incident that happened seven years ago, wherein the victim themselves seemingly took no offence?
I’m ‘woke’ and usually the first person to call for consequences for stuff like this. But this whole thing feels like a knee jerk reaction, and it’s unfair.
That said, the guy never spoke up all these years about Wallace, so who really knows what’s going on under the surface.
Let this be a lesson: watch your language now for it might come back to bite you years down the road.
So what was the offensive word he used?
Why do I get the feeling they went hunting for a reason to sack.
Probably wanted out after all the controversy anyway
I preferred masterchef when it looked like this:
https://youtu.be/Os82UYqssSc?si=ojMJGl-GOfe4JZno
The same BBC too scared to broadcast a documentary about Gaza because it may upset the Israelis and have the broadcaster smeared by Israel as anti semitic? That BBC?
It’s the winner of this years show I feel sorry for because the show has already been filmed but might never air, not even on the iPlayer
My girlfriend worked at his restaurant for 5+ years.
Trust me he is a grade A scumbag and abused a lot of staff and was constantly coked up. He also had multiple affairs and had to be kept off shifts from women he’d harassed.
He’s 10 times worse than Gregg, but kept it all under wraps.
Not sacked, contract not renewed. A small but significant difference.
Seems absolutely farcical this. This guy says something that potentially unjustly offended someone who knows how long ago which is „upheld“ (aka someone else agreed?) and that’s a career over. Joke country and joke spineless corporations.