I hope they don’t just roll over like they have in the US.
MultiMidden on
If the other parties and activists don’t capitalise on this with „Big Brother is watching you“ type stuff about Farage and Reform then this country is fucked.
It needs pro-Palestine movement levels of effort.
Trouble is the left will expend its effort on what is happening in other countries and fighting itself instead of the real enemy, and the Tories will just try and out-Farage Farage.
Sufficient_Purple_67 on
The guy who was running the ‚team‘ ran a data-mining company according to he profile on linked-in. I looked him up. He resigned when Zia Yusef resigned as chairman because it was Yusef that hired him. I don’t know if he came back when Yusef did or who is actually directing this so called ‚Doge‘ team now.
I suspect that data mining is what this bullshit is all about. I also wonder who is paying for it ? Are our council taxes paying for this nonsense ?
socratic-meth on
> The team is run by 12 volunteers, including software engineers and artificial intelligence specialists, according to Reform’s Doge chief Zia Yusuf.
I can only imagine the calibre of ‘software engineer’ that would happily work for free.
freemason6999 on
Recent incidents have shown those in local councils can not be trusted. We need a full audit.
BestButtons on
It’s a good thing that our judges are not politically skewed and the government isn’t Reform’s if it comes to that.
OldLondon on
Why did they think that US style crap would work here? Am glad they’ve been told to fuck off. Bunch of absolute grifting ghouls.
lacb1 on
Thankfully we have far stricter data access laws than the Americans. „Because I want my mates to look at it for reasons“ isn’t a good enough reason to disclose personally identifiable data to a third party. I’d be interested in hearing what the justification they’re trying to use to facilitate the transfer of sensitive data outside of the council’s control.
Muted-Landscape-2717 on
This is the very essence of what Brexit was about.
Break from European human rights and workers protection rule and turn us all into corporate slaves like the US.
Remember every workers rights has been fought for and not given away.
Somehow Farage has convinced enough people he is doing this for Thier own good.
DazzlingClassic185 on
This Doge concept is only really executable if you have access to lawmakers, so it would only really work for Reform if they somehow got the national government. Right now, there are a plethora of decent laws (privacy and GDPR being two) that can stop them doing too much damage.
CheaterMcCheat on
Why do we keep trying to copy every little Americanism, no matter how fucking stupid and embarrassing it is?
Such_Refrigerator273 on
Transparency is the only way. If a council refuses you know they are up to no good.
Own-Helicopter-5558 on
It is worth knowing that many private companies run by unelected individuals have access to private data held by the public sector, many of these companies actually hold the data on behalf of the councils. Prevention of this data sharing is just using GDPR for political reasons because it is the civil servants that will look bad if waste and/or fraud is uncovered.
After-Dentist-2480 on
Unelected, unaccountable mates of Farage being given complete access to councils’ and therefore council taxpayers’ sensitive and personal data?
What could possibly go wrong?
jtrimm98 on
Is already tearing itself apart! Imagine them in government😂
nr191 on
Populist grifters. Are they going to shove a load of 18-year old Andrew Tate fans into their little DOGE cosplay who have no idea what they are looking for?! This will certainly end well.
Spamgrenade on
DOGE was a complete and utter failure in the USA. Even Trump all but admits it.
wishbeaunash on
The idea that they’re still trying to make ‚Doge‘ happen even after it was a complete failure (even by its own insane standards) in the US is a good measure of how completely unserious Reform actually are.
MLoganImmoto on
The most ironic bit about this is that councils will be spending money, part of their budget, to fight this…
DaddyCaustic on
Farage can stick his „doge“ up his arse the frog faced twat.
berejser on
Sorry chaps. We’re not like the US, we have the rule of law in this country.
Intergalatic_Baker on
What’s wrong with wanting to reduce costs and reduce burden on taxpayers bills and actually reallocate money for serving the community…
Edit: Don’t pretend you lot are okay with shelling out more money every year when the council comes back and says I need another 9% out of you… For the same service the year before.
Helpful-Juggernaut33 on
Jesus Fuck, dont give that lot access to anything, look at the damage they can do with a plentiful supply of Exygen.
Thomo251 on
Called this month’s ago. They are going to prepare to emulated the clown show over here by the way of cutting funding to as many things as possible.
technomat on
Surely any team working for the council should be employed by the council or be subcontractors hired by council and not be part of a political party hired to investigate by a party.
Also we have had so many years of Austerity caused by dickheads like Farage who tanked the stock market meaning we bailed out banks that there cannot be that many safe things to cut and hiring a team of 10 odd people would take quite a lot of money to offset.
vocalfreesia on
‚Sensitive‘ means something quite specific like biometric, health data, genetic data, trade union membership, religious data, political opinion data, sex life or sexual orientation and racial/ethnic origin.
Basically everything on the list the Nazis worked down for sending off to the camps.
It’s not just simple personal data like names and addresses.
De_Dominator69 on
I fucking despise reform bringing over US politics. We are not the fucking US for crying out loud, this crapmhas zero relevance here.
„Oh after 14 years of cuts and underfunding to our public and government services we totally need our own DOGE to combat government overspending!“
It’s a wild goose chase, and such a damn moronic one at that, I have genuinely heard more intelligent things from my damn cat.
BraveLordWilloughby on
Surely if they are the leading g force in the council, they should have access to everything relevant to the council?
I think Reform are a joke of a party, but that seems fairly sensible.
Snoo-55142 on
Slowly but surely, Reform are taking Britain Back (to the stone age).
lambrequin_mantling on
This really is just noting more than performative politics by Reform, mostly for the benefit of their voter base, by being seen to be aping the lunacy in the U.S.
They are not, however, the UK Government and so their so-called “Department of Government Efficiency” has no basis is statute and has no official powers or duties in the UK.
In fact, the exact opposite is true: there are numerous legal duties placed upon local government bodies in the UK, particularly in the context of the services they provide to their resident populations, requirements under data protection legislation, and the rules around how council plans, income and expenditure must be published. A bunch of random outsiders have no right to trample on this and the push back will be significant.
Reform and their “DOGE” goons can ask, and can submit Freedom of Information requests but this isn’t the U.S. where an essentially rogue administration can push for access into Federal agencies, playing fast and loose with their own rules and protections; this is the UK and the chief executives of local government councils and their legal advisors would likely advise councillors that, for the most part, Reform’s “DOGE” can go and whistle.
Panda_hat on
That they’re not doing their actual job and instead immediately zeroing in on forcing access to sensitive data shows that this is a data grab and nothing more.
People should be in the streets over this. The foxes are in the hen house.
afrosia on
Must Nigel Farage be so obvious in his cringey sucking up to Trump and the US?
Moistkeano on
If there is even a whiff of a privacy concern they will be sued and it will only be the taxpayers losing out. DOGE only *worked* in the US because there is no one holding anyone to account.
The article even says that Kent CC is having to hire external counsel lol
My partner works in privacy and gets paid a king’s ransom because privacy concerns and litigation go hand in hand.
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I hope they don’t just roll over like they have in the US.
If the other parties and activists don’t capitalise on this with „Big Brother is watching you“ type stuff about Farage and Reform then this country is fucked.
It needs pro-Palestine movement levels of effort.
Trouble is the left will expend its effort on what is happening in other countries and fighting itself instead of the real enemy, and the Tories will just try and out-Farage Farage.
The guy who was running the ‚team‘ ran a data-mining company according to he profile on linked-in. I looked him up. He resigned when Zia Yusef resigned as chairman because it was Yusef that hired him. I don’t know if he came back when Yusef did or who is actually directing this so called ‚Doge‘ team now.
I suspect that data mining is what this bullshit is all about. I also wonder who is paying for it ? Are our council taxes paying for this nonsense ?
> The team is run by 12 volunteers, including software engineers and artificial intelligence specialists, according to Reform’s Doge chief Zia Yusuf.
I can only imagine the calibre of ‘software engineer’ that would happily work for free.
Recent incidents have shown those in local councils can not be trusted. We need a full audit.
It’s a good thing that our judges are not politically skewed and the government isn’t Reform’s if it comes to that.
Why did they think that US style crap would work here? Am glad they’ve been told to fuck off. Bunch of absolute grifting ghouls.
Thankfully we have far stricter data access laws than the Americans. „Because I want my mates to look at it for reasons“ isn’t a good enough reason to disclose personally identifiable data to a third party. I’d be interested in hearing what the justification they’re trying to use to facilitate the transfer of sensitive data outside of the council’s control.
This is the very essence of what Brexit was about.
Break from European human rights and workers protection rule and turn us all into corporate slaves like the US.
Remember every workers rights has been fought for and not given away.
Somehow Farage has convinced enough people he is doing this for Thier own good.
This Doge concept is only really executable if you have access to lawmakers, so it would only really work for Reform if they somehow got the national government. Right now, there are a plethora of decent laws (privacy and GDPR being two) that can stop them doing too much damage.
Why do we keep trying to copy every little Americanism, no matter how fucking stupid and embarrassing it is?
Transparency is the only way. If a council refuses you know they are up to no good.
It is worth knowing that many private companies run by unelected individuals have access to private data held by the public sector, many of these companies actually hold the data on behalf of the councils. Prevention of this data sharing is just using GDPR for political reasons because it is the civil servants that will look bad if waste and/or fraud is uncovered.
Unelected, unaccountable mates of Farage being given complete access to councils’ and therefore council taxpayers’ sensitive and personal data?
What could possibly go wrong?
Is already tearing itself apart! Imagine them in government😂
Populist grifters. Are they going to shove a load of 18-year old Andrew Tate fans into their little DOGE cosplay who have no idea what they are looking for?! This will certainly end well.
DOGE was a complete and utter failure in the USA. Even Trump all but admits it.
The idea that they’re still trying to make ‚Doge‘ happen even after it was a complete failure (even by its own insane standards) in the US is a good measure of how completely unserious Reform actually are.
The most ironic bit about this is that councils will be spending money, part of their budget, to fight this…
Farage can stick his „doge“ up his arse the frog faced twat.
Sorry chaps. We’re not like the US, we have the rule of law in this country.
What’s wrong with wanting to reduce costs and reduce burden on taxpayers bills and actually reallocate money for serving the community…
Edit: Don’t pretend you lot are okay with shelling out more money every year when the council comes back and says I need another 9% out of you… For the same service the year before.
Jesus Fuck, dont give that lot access to anything, look at the damage they can do with a plentiful supply of Exygen.
Called this month’s ago. They are going to prepare to emulated the clown show over here by the way of cutting funding to as many things as possible.
Surely any team working for the council should be employed by the council or be subcontractors hired by council and not be part of a political party hired to investigate by a party.
Also we have had so many years of Austerity caused by dickheads like Farage who tanked the stock market meaning we bailed out banks that there cannot be that many safe things to cut and hiring a team of 10 odd people would take quite a lot of money to offset.
‚Sensitive‘ means something quite specific like biometric, health data, genetic data, trade union membership, religious data, political opinion data, sex life or sexual orientation and racial/ethnic origin.
Basically everything on the list the Nazis worked down for sending off to the camps.
It’s not just simple personal data like names and addresses.
I fucking despise reform bringing over US politics. We are not the fucking US for crying out loud, this crapmhas zero relevance here.
„Oh after 14 years of cuts and underfunding to our public and government services we totally need our own DOGE to combat government overspending!“
It’s a wild goose chase, and such a damn moronic one at that, I have genuinely heard more intelligent things from my damn cat.
Surely if they are the leading g force in the council, they should have access to everything relevant to the council?
I think Reform are a joke of a party, but that seems fairly sensible.
Slowly but surely, Reform are taking Britain Back (to the stone age).
This really is just noting more than performative politics by Reform, mostly for the benefit of their voter base, by being seen to be aping the lunacy in the U.S.
They are not, however, the UK Government and so their so-called “Department of Government Efficiency” has no basis is statute and has no official powers or duties in the UK.
In fact, the exact opposite is true: there are numerous legal duties placed upon local government bodies in the UK, particularly in the context of the services they provide to their resident populations, requirements under data protection legislation, and the rules around how council plans, income and expenditure must be published. A bunch of random outsiders have no right to trample on this and the push back will be significant.
Reform and their “DOGE” goons can ask, and can submit Freedom of Information requests but this isn’t the U.S. where an essentially rogue administration can push for access into Federal agencies, playing fast and loose with their own rules and protections; this is the UK and the chief executives of local government councils and their legal advisors would likely advise councillors that, for the most part, Reform’s “DOGE” can go and whistle.
That they’re not doing their actual job and instead immediately zeroing in on forcing access to sensitive data shows that this is a data grab and nothing more.
People should be in the streets over this. The foxes are in the hen house.
Must Nigel Farage be so obvious in his cringey sucking up to Trump and the US?
If there is even a whiff of a privacy concern they will be sued and it will only be the taxpayers losing out. DOGE only *worked* in the US because there is no one holding anyone to account.
The article even says that Kent CC is having to hire external counsel lol
My partner works in privacy and gets paid a king’s ransom because privacy concerns and litigation go hand in hand.