Irland hat seit 2005 ein Viertel seiner Pubs verloren
https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-pubs-closing-2-6762244-Jul2025/
Von TeoKajLibroj
Irland hat seit 2005 ein Viertel seiner Pubs verloren
https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-pubs-closing-2-6762244-Jul2025/
Von TeoKajLibroj
28 Kommentare
Of course the Drinks industry Group of Ireland would fund a report with a doom and gloom headline that suggests to the gov should cut excuse duty that will just end up with them making more profits. Customers sure wouldn’t see any benefits to a cut in duty
A lot of places had too many to be sustainable. My home town used to have over a dozen, in a town with 0 restaurants or cafes, and one shop. The numbers dwindled to 5 now.
You mean people won’t pay 7 plus euro for a pint of beer? Who would have known.
When you think about it the pub industry is receding down to two main things which are actually a net positive.
People’s social behaviour around drink culture is shifting. We’re opting to spend our time doing healthier activities instead of drinking pints.
Cracking down on drink driving means people are less inclined to risk driving to the pub for a couple of pints.
I’m drinking a fraction of what I was in 2005.
Sure, it’s expensive, but it’s also just depressing.
My medium sized town had about 3k people in the mid 90s and 20 pubs. That was a pub for every 150 people in the town, including children, sustaining a publican and staff all on their own.
Today, it’s got 10k people and 10 pubs remaining.
We’ve lost some good ones, but mostly the worst of them have closed and two of what’s left have expanded massively into huge pubs.
Twenty years ago I was working as a bar man and used to see the same lads who were 20 years older, every weekend they’d be in and drinking 15 drinks a piece. Chinese in the way home. The Celtic Tiger expanded the waist line at some pace.
Now I’m as old as they were and I’m not exactly in great shape, but Christ I would be a mess if I was doing what they were doing 20 years ago. I’m almost glad it’s gotten so expensive and made me get more creative about how I spend and enjoy my weekends.
Great news
There are still too many pubs in Ireland.
Presumably, most of them rural?
Living here in a city centre, and pubs are hopping at the weekends, and busy most weeknights too. It helps that most have live music. Trad in particular is wildly popular.
Far too many pubs and not nearly enough vegan trans only spaces. #FreePalestine
I just don’t understand the mentality of pubs. Ohh the local pub has closed . It’s a business like any other . If you don’t do anything to attract people. You won’t make money. Some local pubs are like. We sell alcohol so take your beer sit in the corner and drink up. Pubs haven’t changed for years. People are tired of ye olde wooden bar look. And judgemental publicans.
At one stage, in the town I grew up, (pop 12000) in the early 90s, there were 23 places you could get served a pint. 2 were clubs but the rest were pubs. That is not sustainable. There are less than 10 now and some of them are struggling badly. The times they are a changin.
Rural and small town Ireland was ridiculously overpubbed. 30 years ago a drive around the back roads of a given area would see you pass any number of crossroad/junction licensed premises.
I love pubs and do stil go to them, however I don’t understand why their closures should get so much more attention than business closures in other sectors. Of course there are instances where the state should subsidise sectors that may otherwise be financially unviable – like public transport and childcare – and publicans seem to believe that they should be in the same bucket, but I don’t think this washes with most people
Id imagine its at the point now that if you dont own the premises its just not doable anymore
Nice to see some positive news for a change. Hopefully we’ll see a reduction in tobacconists, vape shops and junkfood chains too.
I would’ve guessed it was closer to 50%. It’s certainly over 50% in my home town.
Have the publicans (or anybody for that matter) ever asked the public what they’d like from a pub? Times have changed, as has the culture. Perhaps selling expensive pints to people, while blasting their ears off with loud music isn’t the way to go anymore. Would people prefer to have a café bar, similar to what Michael McDowell tried to introduce 20 years ago? Would they like their local pubs to become more like a hub for local activities? Unless they start attracting young people back into their establishments, many more will go. All ideas I’m just throwing out there.
Costs have gone up for publicans such that they have had to pass these costs onto the punter. The problem is that other costs have gone up for the punter so they’re drinking less/abstaining while the new „drinkers of the future“ are saving every cent they can for housing.
Priorities have changed for the younger generation because of economic conditions such that they simply can’t afford to drink like I used to in my youth.
Wait for minimum unit pricing to increase again to try force people back into the pub. Then publicans will increase prices resulting in people drinking at home, followed by more complaints by the pub owners about the death of the industry. Then rinse and repeat.
The drinks industry group, which has a financial incentive to keep pubs open and in business, is saying:
> It said that without immediate action by the Government, “many villages and small towns will soon lose their last remaining pub which would deal a devastating blow to the economic and social fabric of that community.”
Why is our media echoing the needs of a private group sector and trying to persuade the public opinion onto pressuring the government for things that would benefit them alone? It’s not like people are socialising less because there are less pubs.
There is absolutely 0 public benefit in promoting alcohol consumption. In a matter of public health, we would all benefit from zero alcohol consumption.
I do enjoy my cold one, especially especially in days like last Saturday. But if suddenly alcohol disappeared from life, nobody would die because of it. You would also have some benefits, like less domestic violence and less burden on the public health sector for issues regarding alcohol consumption.
So I ask again, why are we giving a voice to this drinks industry group again? Just like smoking, people are slowly realising that there are less harmful alternative activities and alcohol will be less and less popular.
I don’t dare set foot in a pub anymore with the cost of drinks, it’s just too much. We also had way too many pubs to begin with, you’d have a village with barely any shops or anything yet it has like 10 pubs
Where I grew up on the 70s, 80s had a population under 2000 and had 27 bars.
It’s now neay 8000 people and 9 bars with the last one to close just being last weekend.
The cost is too much.
Most Pubs are too loud, filthy and overpriced. The too loud part is the biggest problem for me though, I want to talk to the people I am going out with, not yell in each other’s ear’s and still don’t completely understand what was said.
Ireland should split the night life up in two categories like other countries do, a Pub, aka a bar, to sit down, with ambient music, have a drink and a chat, no yelling required. And night clubs or discotheques, for drinks, loud music and dancing.
Most Pubs are basically both mushed into one, and that makes it a shit experience. There are exceptions, but those are rare. Talking city experiences, no idea about rural pubs.
If every old school pub closed tomorrow bar a small number of ‚classics ‚ I doubt many people would really give a shit anymore.
They made bank for years, often their best customers were alcoholics who spent there weekly wage and went home to families broke.
Fuck those publicans.
We’re one economic shock away from losing a lot more
There probably were too many in 2005 to be fair.
The death of the Irish pub is fantastic. Keep the few for the tourists etc
We should be building better community spaces that cater for all.
Pubs are an extremely important part of Irish culture. I also don’t deny times are changing. Why can we not reduce the price of pints (ease off govt tax take, or other measure) and move away from the rip off prices. There’s acceptance of 5euro pints but where it’s going now makes people think it’s not worth going to the pub.
Ireland is killing it’s own pubs through bad policy. We are not getting this stuff right
Good we don’t fucking need as much