The same people saying this can’t work on a national level are the same people who thought a wealthy coastal elite couldn’t win over rural Republican voters. When faced with the status quo, people choose populism.
DisMFer on
I get what they are saying but he has only won the primary. Primary voters by definition tend to be less centrist.
adorientem88 on
Mamdani’s win in *New York City* shows that Dems don’t have to move to the center to win elections?
What???
AverageSizePeen800 on
In NYC.
Does this strategy work in Pennsylvania or Michigan?
hyborians on
Bro is just saying let’s help working class and middle class people first not the millionaires and billionaires. You may not agree with the guy on every policy but he’s just a regular guy with a very consistent message that is resonating.
Anacalagon on
„move to center“ there is no center when dealing with fascists. trump has said Democrats are „evil“ there is no compromise.
ButterscotchLow8950 on
It’s my understanding that NY tends to lean more blue in any case. Not all democrats are going to be running in NY.
pancakebreak on
Can we wait until after the election actually happens to brag about winning it?
Alternative_Rent9307 on
To quote the venerable political mastermind Han Solo: Don’t get cocky.
EyeraGlass on
He’s getting 35 percent of the vote in New York City in a split field….
FourWordComment on
America’s right wing has been calling the democrats “radical left wing antifa socialist communists” for long even the democrats started to believe it.
Democrats take a very centrist, milquetoast position. The US barely knows what to do when it sees actual leftist positions.
Deep_Stick8786 on
Ok maybe in NYC with a ranked choice primary with horrid “centrist” candidates. Probably not in most statewide or any national race
RB_7 on
TIL winning a primary in a deep blue city against a known sex criminal is proof of nationwide appeal.
(Before the leftists come out; I like the guy! I would vote for him if I lived in NYC! Proof of a winning nationwide strategy however, this is not.)
the_che on
In New York.
Not sure how well that translates to other places.
whenwilligetlaid on
More non-voters lean to the left side of politics. Many feel like neither party represents them, so they don’t vote. There is a huge block of voters waiting to be compelled to vote, think young voters for example.
CalligrapherDizzy201 on
Winning a primary is a far cry from winning the general election.
Potatoes90 on
*In New York
Seriously, try his shtick in Iowa and see how it goes for you.
ParadeSit on
There’s always concern trolling over a Democrat being some scary liberal socialist to frighten people. In reality, Mandani’s policies are what people both need and want, but the media can’t seem to say that.
protomenace on
„Both parties continue to drive hard to the extreme right and left and leave the center in the dust“
Present_Confection83 on
It was one New York City primary. Against a candidate with more baggage than Queen Elizabeth
Igoos99 on
He won a *primary* in a *very, very blue* area.
🙄🙄🙄
Remember when Elizabeth Warren was the next great hope because she could score some zingers on the daily show?? Or Beto O’Rourke, apparently just because he came from Texas and was liberal???
You have to see how someone does in a general election before getting all hot and bothered by their prospects.
WastelandOutlaw007 on
No. It doesn’t, as it was a primary
A win in the general would show this, and that hasn’t occured yet.
jackv206 on
People are going to learn the wrong lessons from this victory. Mamdani won bc he’s extremely charismatic, ran a strong digital grassroots campaign, and has the fortune of running against a corrupt career politician while Trump is actively destroying the country. Dems across the country should take his playbook talking about kitchen table economic issues and leaning away from culture idpol stuff (Israel/gaza).
Dwayla on
He gives me hope.
pricklyplant on
It’s still a little early to claim this. Let’s let him win the general election first
jediporcupine on
Trump showed us politics has less to do about your position on the spectrum and more to do with marketing. His policies were bad, but many didn’t think about it because he was appealing to people in such a way that spoke to them.
Now this isn’t to say Mamdani is Trump or the liberal equivalent of him. But it just goes to show that politics is all marketing. Mamdani was able to connect with people and effectively sold his vision.
Democrats would be wise to take notes. Even for the ones who don’t agree with Mamdani’s position, he ran a winning campaign. Given the party has done a miserable job connecting with everyday voters, they would be wise to understand how he did it.
LeoGoldfox on
Moving to the center just means you get nothing done.
spacegamer2000 on
They never believed that but it let them make more money to move to the right.
iamstephen1128 on
Mamdani shows why we need ranked choice voting…
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*in New York City.
The same people saying this can’t work on a national level are the same people who thought a wealthy coastal elite couldn’t win over rural Republican voters. When faced with the status quo, people choose populism.
I get what they are saying but he has only won the primary. Primary voters by definition tend to be less centrist.
Mamdani’s win in *New York City* shows that Dems don’t have to move to the center to win elections?
What???
In NYC.
Does this strategy work in Pennsylvania or Michigan?
Bro is just saying let’s help working class and middle class people first not the millionaires and billionaires. You may not agree with the guy on every policy but he’s just a regular guy with a very consistent message that is resonating.
„move to center“ there is no center when dealing with fascists. trump has said Democrats are „evil“ there is no compromise.
It’s my understanding that NY tends to lean more blue in any case. Not all democrats are going to be running in NY.
Can we wait until after the election actually happens to brag about winning it?
To quote the venerable political mastermind Han Solo: Don’t get cocky.
He’s getting 35 percent of the vote in New York City in a split field….
America’s right wing has been calling the democrats “radical left wing antifa socialist communists” for long even the democrats started to believe it.
Democrats take a very centrist, milquetoast position. The US barely knows what to do when it sees actual leftist positions.
Ok maybe in NYC with a ranked choice primary with horrid “centrist” candidates. Probably not in most statewide or any national race
TIL winning a primary in a deep blue city against a known sex criminal is proof of nationwide appeal.
(Before the leftists come out; I like the guy! I would vote for him if I lived in NYC! Proof of a winning nationwide strategy however, this is not.)
In New York.
Not sure how well that translates to other places.
More non-voters lean to the left side of politics. Many feel like neither party represents them, so they don’t vote. There is a huge block of voters waiting to be compelled to vote, think young voters for example.
Winning a primary is a far cry from winning the general election.
*In New York
Seriously, try his shtick in Iowa and see how it goes for you.
There’s always concern trolling over a Democrat being some scary liberal socialist to frighten people. In reality, Mandani’s policies are what people both need and want, but the media can’t seem to say that.
„Both parties continue to drive hard to the extreme right and left and leave the center in the dust“
It was one New York City primary. Against a candidate with more baggage than Queen Elizabeth
He won a *primary* in a *very, very blue* area.
🙄🙄🙄
Remember when Elizabeth Warren was the next great hope because she could score some zingers on the daily show?? Or Beto O’Rourke, apparently just because he came from Texas and was liberal???
You have to see how someone does in a general election before getting all hot and bothered by their prospects.
No. It doesn’t, as it was a primary
A win in the general would show this, and that hasn’t occured yet.
People are going to learn the wrong lessons from this victory. Mamdani won bc he’s extremely charismatic, ran a strong digital grassroots campaign, and has the fortune of running against a corrupt career politician while Trump is actively destroying the country. Dems across the country should take his playbook talking about kitchen table economic issues and leaning away from culture idpol stuff (Israel/gaza).
He gives me hope.
It’s still a little early to claim this. Let’s let him win the general election first
Trump showed us politics has less to do about your position on the spectrum and more to do with marketing. His policies were bad, but many didn’t think about it because he was appealing to people in such a way that spoke to them.
Now this isn’t to say Mamdani is Trump or the liberal equivalent of him. But it just goes to show that politics is all marketing. Mamdani was able to connect with people and effectively sold his vision.
Democrats would be wise to take notes. Even for the ones who don’t agree with Mamdani’s position, he ran a winning campaign. Given the party has done a miserable job connecting with everyday voters, they would be wise to understand how he did it.
Moving to the center just means you get nothing done.
They never believed that but it let them make more money to move to the right.
Mamdani shows why we need ranked choice voting…