Öffentliche Unterstützung für die Streiks der ansässigen Ärzte kollabiert vor neuen Industriemaßnahmen
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jul/12/public-support-for-resident-doctors-strikes-collapses-ahead-of-fresh-industrial-action
Von acrimoniousone
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Over the years of infantilisation, degradation of quality of patient care and moral injury – my support for the publics health service has also collapsed to a new low, of which oozes my jaded disregard for public opinion.
Enjoy the strikes.
The UK has a terrible culture of crabs in a bucket mentality.
Ah well.
The average UK worker has had wages stagnate since 2008, they’re only about 3% higher now. That’s rightly cited as an economic catastrophe
Doctors have had pay cut by 22%. They just want the same economic disaster as the average worker
In any case – it’s not a zero sum game. We should be lifting each other up in demanding a reversal of paycuts. Good on doctors for standing up for their worth. Other workers should do the same, instead of shitting on the few groups of workers who have organised to campaign again shite pay
If you want an NHS, you probably need to pay workers enough that they don’t literally down tools
It’s the inability (unless one is an OAP) to even get an in-person GP appointment (when it matters) that rubs lot of people the wrong way.
The NHS workers were amazing during Covid, whenever my family or myself have had a medical crisis they’re there fully committed, they are under valued, short staffed and badly paid. It’s not the medical staffs fault that our NHS is bad, it’s the government’s. I for one completely support them!
Pay doctors what they deserve, because if my life, or the life of a family member is in the hands of a doctor, I dont want them to be under-paid, disheartened and unmotivated.
They got a big payrise after strikes last year, I think a lot of sympathy has burned out
what about the loans (NHS trusts) that were taken out, and refreshed with shockingly poor terms, that the government is happy to support. it’s a fucking scandal, and nothing is said…
Doctors leave this country much more so than the wealthy, but apparently we mustn’t tax wealth and the wealthy lest they “flee”.
Taxing rich people doesn’t alter their material existence, paying vital workers more does.
Its telling how there is never any salary numbers beyond percentages in these discussions.
They earn a substantial amount. Year 1: £38,831. Year 2: £44,439. Year 3: £52,656 to £73,992.
Overtime, anti social hours, etc are paid on top of these base rates.
The average pay across all resident doctors is £54,300 base.
These are people who have limited to no experience and are still very much learning.
I know they like to trumpet their own self importance taught to them at their elitist schools, but take away farmers and you have no food, take away builders and you have no house, take away engineers and you have the 1700s…lots of professions are important
Well I’m not really sure the public has much say in it honestly. We want doctors to be paid properly, especially so they don’t flee to other countries like many will certainly consider. And if you don’t think you’re paid enough, join a union and fight for an increase in pay as well!
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Feelings and support aside, the economic reality is that doctors are perhaps one of the most in-demand and transferable professions in the world. If we don’t pay them well, another country will.
Everyone has been fucked since 2008. Paying resident doctors extra whilst preserving strong pensions and screwing over the private sector that keeps the country afloat is wrong.
Cut the fat first. Say no to those who want work and the elderly who didn’t think to save. Once those savings are in hand then we can pay the doctor’s a bit more.
This reporting is laying the groundwork to try and stop the nurses striking. Who have also been screwed over for the past 14 years. They are about to ballot on accepting a pay cut this year (sorry, ‘below inflation pay rise’)
It’s why so many of us have left the career. And now hospital trusts can’t afford to replace us with the even more poorly paid newly qualified nurses.
It’s all fucked, but people kept voting Tory.
We don’t care. Sorry. But we’re not elected officials who need the publics support to win votes. Did you as a public think that we could pay our bills with your Thursday night claps?
Not going to be gaslit into turning against the welfare of people saving lives.
Genuinely, who looks at successful union action and says „actually, no, screw you, have less!“
Workers uniting to take what they’re owed is only ever a good thing. We live in a society with millionaires and billionaires, I think we have the cash.
Every single interview and article I’ve read on this has been absolutely slating Doctors, a recent Jeremy Vine interview was a straight up 3 against 1 hit-job, which is in stark contrast to much of the media that came out when the conservatives were in power which backed them.
Look at it this way, you’re the Labour party, you’ve just seen the conservatives attempt to flat out deny doctors their pay increase, you’ve seen doctors strike with fervour, and you’ve seen the massive public support for them and the ensuing political damage those strikes did to the conservatives. You also want to deny them their pay increase, but you don’t want that political damage as you’re already broadly disliked, so what do you do?
You get your mates in the media to change public perception, you vilify doctors, you make them seem greedy, unjustified and out of touch, you make them responsible for waiting lists, the financial situation in the NHS, accidents, poor quality care, etc, so public support shifts and you denying them doesn’t cost you votes.
Since when does what the public wants, needs, or supports matter into anything??
I’m concerned by the divide and conquer approach to the NHS. All the unions have far too much fighting, for both the limelight in the media and for pay rises for their own.
I really don’t know why the BMA, RCN, Unite, Unison et al don’t join together in a single action. Right now the unions are working to undermine each other – like how the BMA waited for the other unions to resolve their negotiations last year, so BMA could come in and ask for more than the others. The BMA would happily let the rest of the NHS take a pay cut if it means their members can get their pay rise.
The NHS should be united, not fighting at the trough. Unions by their nature will act in the self interest of their members, but why can’t they fight for wider reform without throwing their colleagues under the bus?
Huummm how many sectors have badly stagnated? Doctors aren’t and shouldn’t be treated better than most …maybe a median could be settled here?
I think we need to start thinking about the actual value of professions to us as citizens.
Doctors in the UK are terribly paid for the skills they have and the stress they endure. I earn significantly more than most doctors, even consultants, and my job is nowhere near as essential. I work in software development, so not unskilled, but you know… It’s not brain surgery!!