They definitely should pay reparations to anyone with proof that they were enslaved by the Portuguese state.
And still alive of course.
Another-attempt42 on
The reparations thing is always weird to me.
I get the impulse, and on the surface, I also fully understand the logic: people were enslaved, wealth was immorally extracted at the end of the whip, this wealth benefitted the colonial core, and reparations are a way to apologize and correct historical injustices.
The part that gets me is: why should people today pay for the mistakes of previous governments/people? Some people argue “but it’s the government paying”. Ok, but with my money. The government doesn’t just have money. It takes my money. I’m not pro-slavery. I don’t defend its use. I don’t defend imperialism.
Secondly, a lot of governments that engaged in slavery were about as democratic as Putin’s Russia. Holding the descendents of people in Lisbon financially responsible for what some monarch dipshit did 300 years ago, without their input or say, seems strange.
Now, if you wanted to pay reparations by forcing monarchies that still exist today to part with their wealth which was garnered on the backs of slaves, that makes more sense.
DarthSet on
As they should. Portugal just tapped into the existing slave market when they reached Africa.
“When the trans-Saharan slave trade, Red Sea slave trade, Indian Ocean slave trade and Atlantic slave trade (which started in the 16th century) began, many of the pre-existing local African slave systems began supplying captives for slave markets outside Africa. Slavery in contemporary Africa is still practised despite it being illegal.”
RelevanceReverence on
They should only ever pay to living people logically. Weird why this is even a thing?
Full-Discussion3745 on
All Protestant Europeans kicked out of Europe because of their religion should also demand reparations. Catherine De Medici and the catholic church got their hands on some of the best wine farms in the Epernay region and never paid a cent.
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RevolutionMuch1159 on
Portugal doesn’t have the funds to pay reparations,second people who never enslaved anyone will have to pay reparations to people who haven’t been enslaved.Hard pass !!!!
Raz0rking on
The whole “slavery reparations” is one massive grift to get easy money.
Thisshucksq on
And just like r/europe turned into a Trump supporters / GOP meeting.
thisbondisaaarated on
We’ll pay when the Moors and the Romans pay us. There, fixed.
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They definitely should pay reparations to anyone with proof that they were enslaved by the Portuguese state.
And still alive of course.
The reparations thing is always weird to me.
I get the impulse, and on the surface, I also fully understand the logic: people were enslaved, wealth was immorally extracted at the end of the whip, this wealth benefitted the colonial core, and reparations are a way to apologize and correct historical injustices.
The part that gets me is: why should people today pay for the mistakes of previous governments/people? Some people argue “but it’s the government paying”. Ok, but with my money. The government doesn’t just have money. It takes my money. I’m not pro-slavery. I don’t defend its use. I don’t defend imperialism.
Secondly, a lot of governments that engaged in slavery were about as democratic as Putin’s Russia. Holding the descendents of people in Lisbon financially responsible for what some monarch dipshit did 300 years ago, without their input or say, seems strange.
Now, if you wanted to pay reparations by forcing monarchies that still exist today to part with their wealth which was garnered on the backs of slaves, that makes more sense.
As they should. Portugal just tapped into the existing slave market when they reached Africa.
“When the trans-Saharan slave trade, Red Sea slave trade, Indian Ocean slave trade and Atlantic slave trade (which started in the 16th century) began, many of the pre-existing local African slave systems began supplying captives for slave markets outside Africa. Slavery in contemporary Africa is still practised despite it being illegal.”
They should only ever pay to living people logically. Weird why this is even a thing?
All Protestant Europeans kicked out of Europe because of their religion should also demand reparations. Catherine De Medici and the catholic church got their hands on some of the best wine farms in the Epernay region and never paid a cent.
#
Portugal doesn’t have the funds to pay reparations,second people who never enslaved anyone will have to pay reparations to people who haven’t been enslaved.Hard pass !!!!
The whole “slavery reparations” is one massive grift to get easy money.
And just like r/europe turned into a Trump supporters / GOP meeting.
We’ll pay when the Moors and the Romans pay us. There, fixed.