Any type of push back from the democrats would be a good start.
Dapper-Condition6041 on
What Democrats should be doing is getting in front of a microphone every single day and attaching whatever bad thing happened that day to Donald Trump.
Chrono_Convoy on
At least fight against your own obsolescence. Reject cowards and those complicit.
crimsonconnect on
Hakeem Jeffries with a bat and photoshopped hips isn’t doing it for you?!! What else do you want!?
InterviewOk8013 on
I think they should keep shrinking and blaming voters. It’s worked so fucking well for them so far. Oh I also like when they get in power and make up a million excuses why they can’t do anything!
invalidpassword on
Time to „go to the mattresses“ as they would say in *The Godfather*. Lives literally depend on it. We’re losing our country and it has got to stop. If not, we will be ruled by middle-age straight white Christian men — just like the Founding Fathers were although no doubt a few of them were gay.
Agnos on
Democrats treat politics as sport, republicans treat politics as war.
CommunityTaco on
You don’t fight fair when your opponent is throwing nut shot after nut shot. I’m sick of the pussy ass democratic party.
Oleg101 on
This headline is crap, with the “there’s need to be blood” part at least. That will just cause this to be weaponized by the right in saying “the left are the ones that want violence!”
oneseason2000 on
And I expect many more are telling them to support progressive policies. Nothing „grabs the attention of the press“ like someone advocating for universal health care, a $30 minimum wage, tax increases for the extremely wealthy. I wonder why that isn’t mentioned and on the table /s … ‚“Our own base is telling us that what we’re doing is not good enough … [that] there needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public,“ one anonymous Democrat told Axios.‘ … ‚“Some of them have suggested … what we really need to do is be willing to get shot“ when visiting ICE facilities or other federal agencies, another lawmaker told *Axios.’*
UncontrolledInfo on
My dem rep just posed in the White House with Netanyahu, so that’s how she’s pushing back …
Fucking spineless. We got people getting kidnapped off the street and she’s standing side by side with a dude wanted by the ICC for genocide.
I don’t think they got our backs. I don’t think they ever did.
Apprehensive-Ad9523 on
Dirty? It’s filthy that Big Name Dems are blatantly understating all problems here and more coming in such a COWARDLY manner. Everyone one.
KingThar on
Not blood. Proper judgement and Consequence. Lasting consequence.
A_Beautiful_Impact on
You’ve gotta fight, for your right…
Marxian_factotum on
We need the Democratic party to openly commit to the program of FDR and LBJ.
Medicare for All, free pre-K through university public education, a right to housing, a right to a good job, an end to poverty wages, an end to the police state, an immigration policy all America can be proud of, prosecution and jail for the fascists.
Socratic_Method_729 on
Storming the White House is sabotage and I doubt their constituents said that. When Capital Hill got stormed, it wasn’t leaders or representatives that did that.
gavinashun on
Yes.
marioansteadi on
Have been impressed with a few strong women legislators and Bernie, but the Democratic Party elite are compromised and part of the problem and not the solution. Won’t happen with either Schumer or Jeffries in charge. You had Supreme Court Justice Jackson admit publicly today that what keeps her up at night is the state of American democracy today. A remarkable statement. This should be viewed as a 5 alarm ⏰ fire warning. Instead, what do we get from Dem.
leadership? Theatrical all night speeches. 🤮
TreeLicker51 on
If they won’t reject coporate money then they probably won’t put their lives on the line.
Historical_Bend_2629 on
Uh, no, voters want accountability, not blood. Stupid vengeance and bloodlust got us this idiocracy.
masstransience on
Instead of “when they go low, we go high”, it needs to be “when they go low, I’ll hold their face next to their shit and say bad dog then show them where to shit outside until they’ve learned not to shit inside”.
SteveSomers on
We’re tired of MAGA pushing their agenda through using loopholes, rulings from 1832, and blatant disregard for the law.
Michelle Obama was wrong. When they go low, put your foot on their throat. No more decorum and tradition. Fuck em.
CreepyWhistle on
inb4 *THE VIOLENT LEFT* comments.
Ok-Vegetable-8170 on
What we need is a strongly worded press release from Senator Wall Street himself, Chuck Schumer.
kinshoBanhammer on
>The outlet spoke to more than two dozen House [Democrats](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/democrats), many of whom said their constituents had demanded extreme measures and even violence in order to exact change.
>“Some of them have suggested … what we really need to do is be willing to get shot“ when visiting ICE facilities or other federal agencies, another lawmaker told *Axios.*
Goddamn….
I’d hate to be a House Dem right now. Have absolutely no power and then I got activist constituents telling me to get shot/killed.
I know Dems are pissed, but this is your punishment. Dems failed to show up in force in the presidential election. Now it’s time to pay the price for sitting home.
The one time we could have done something….shutting down the govt….Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillebrand (NY Dems) refused to take that leap forward. Blame NY for electing some shitty people into office.
Spiritual-Bed3948 on
You mean a strongly worded letter isn’t fighting dirty? I mean I got ink stains on my French cuffs. That’s not going come out in the dry cleaners. I’m just going to have to throw the shirt out. Don’t tell me I’m not sacrificing for my country sir!
Gene020 on
How about the Reps just fight Trump and his MAGA agenda? That would be a start. AFAIK, the Democratic party is still being polite while never failing to ask voters for more money, daily!
grahag on
At the VERY LEAST, fight within the system using all the parliamentary rules that the GOP uses against democracy.
And when you’ve won, change the rules to make it fair for ALL and not just the donors.
Give us medicare for all, legalize marijuana, get rid of citizens united, root out corruption, WHEREVER it exists… Work for the people and make your positions those of servants again.
TeaAndGrumpets on
Is anyone surprised most of the current Democrats are doing nothing outside of strongly written letters? They benefit from the same billionaires and game as the GOP. We need money out of politics.
Ging287 on
Controlled opposition gets people begging the controlled opposition to do something, anything, but be controlled opposition. Ranked choice voting, let’s get our choices back rather than the uniparty’s tricks, lies, deceit, false promises, hypocritical decadence of our FOOLISH leaders.
jonasnew on
Yes, but it doesn’t help when several of you continue to go so far as to claim that the Democrats are the ones responsible for why the Trump regime is doing all these horrible things to begin with. I mean, how does it make our situation regarding fascism any better?
Atmosck on
I really don’t understand why blue state governors aren’t using their state national guard to literally fight back against ICE. The federal government has been taken over by a fascist dictatorship. The old relationship between the states and the fed is long gone, and it’s about damn time elected officials recognize that.
HappyLife1307 on
Kinda like the Jan 6er did
coochitfrita on
Yep. The only good fight i’ve seen is Newsom suing Fox. the next best thing has been that that absolutely fruitless booker speech which made me want to vomit
newsom is currently my guy
MontyAtWork on
Before Trump was elected, they called him dangerous.
Now he’s being dangerous, and literally disappearing people, and they’re still doing the same letter writing campaigns and stern statements.
The Democratic leadership isn’t interested in fighting fascism, they’re only interested in softening it.
DullEstimate2002 on
Yes.
InfinityComplexxx on
Getting arrested or shot at is.silly. but fighting dirty should them finally realizing that the Right has already lit decorum on fire, and the Dems need to act like it. That the norms are now gone.
letsago9987 on
dems are just the other side of the same coin. the progressive and non-bought dems needs to just break off and leave the party. Let the Fetterman’s go be where they want to be.
DaySoc98jr on
Fuck yeah!!!
We ain’t dealing with Trent Lott and Paul Ryan. Time to start acting accordingly.
Jasmine Crockett and AOC are the answer.
Incidentally, I’m a staunch moderate, but this isn’t the time for moderation. Moderation in this era is a luxury we simply cannot afford. Not with evil fucks like Stephen Miller, who makes Dick Cheney look like gramps. They’re playing dirty pool, so should we. Being holier than thou pearl clutchers ain’t gonna get the job done.
Fight, goddamnit!
Fit-Cat3096 on
There are millions of us (I saw you all out there on June 14th in solidarity!) waiting for everyone else, including our „representatives“, to wake the hell up and admit what this is and what needs to be done about it.
immortaldes on
I dont think its a good idea to request blood
BaldBeardedBookworm on
Anson Burlingame energy
KoRaZee on
Democrats are afraid to offend a <0.1% of the population demographic. How are the same people supposed to effectively fight Trump?
supercali45 on
The pushback should have been during Biden’s 4 years
Impressive_Economy70 on
Read LBJ bio by Caro. „He’d cut your arm off and beat you over the head with it.’ Ruthless political animal, and genius. Not a good guy but did pass Civil Rights
XanzMakeHerDance on
Literally
BigBangAssBanger_3D on
Well first, you actually need to make the Democrats DO anything against Trump, Mueller, Vance and the rest of their batshit army before you shed blood.
Because it seems like they’ve resigned themselves to this fate if they aren’t trying to get rid of Mamdani before the MAGA crowd does it for them.
I wouldn’t be shocked if they lost midterms the way things are going with their party and the lack of inaction despite the repeated call to arms.
PotatoeGuru on
Democrats REALLY need to listen to Sean Connery’s Chicago Way speech from The Untouchables.
ponyflip on
UK paper foments rebellion in US.
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Any type of push back from the democrats would be a good start.
What Democrats should be doing is getting in front of a microphone every single day and attaching whatever bad thing happened that day to Donald Trump.
At least fight against your own obsolescence. Reject cowards and those complicit.
Hakeem Jeffries with a bat and photoshopped hips isn’t doing it for you?!! What else do you want!?
I think they should keep shrinking and blaming voters. It’s worked so fucking well for them so far. Oh I also like when they get in power and make up a million excuses why they can’t do anything!
Time to „go to the mattresses“ as they would say in *The Godfather*. Lives literally depend on it. We’re losing our country and it has got to stop. If not, we will be ruled by middle-age straight white Christian men — just like the Founding Fathers were although no doubt a few of them were gay.
Democrats treat politics as sport, republicans treat politics as war.
You don’t fight fair when your opponent is throwing nut shot after nut shot. I’m sick of the pussy ass democratic party.
This headline is crap, with the “there’s need to be blood” part at least. That will just cause this to be weaponized by the right in saying “the left are the ones that want violence!”
And I expect many more are telling them to support progressive policies. Nothing „grabs the attention of the press“ like someone advocating for universal health care, a $30 minimum wage, tax increases for the extremely wealthy. I wonder why that isn’t mentioned and on the table /s … ‚“Our own base is telling us that what we’re doing is not good enough … [that] there needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public,“ one anonymous Democrat told Axios.‘ … ‚“Some of them have suggested … what we really need to do is be willing to get shot“ when visiting ICE facilities or other federal agencies, another lawmaker told *Axios.’*
My dem rep just posed in the White House with Netanyahu, so that’s how she’s pushing back …
Fucking spineless. We got people getting kidnapped off the street and she’s standing side by side with a dude wanted by the ICC for genocide.
I don’t think they got our backs. I don’t think they ever did.
Dirty? It’s filthy that Big Name Dems are blatantly understating all problems here and more coming in such a COWARDLY manner. Everyone one.
Not blood. Proper judgement and Consequence. Lasting consequence.
You’ve gotta fight, for your right…
We need the Democratic party to openly commit to the program of FDR and LBJ.
Medicare for All, free pre-K through university public education, a right to housing, a right to a good job, an end to poverty wages, an end to the police state, an immigration policy all America can be proud of, prosecution and jail for the fascists.
Storming the White House is sabotage and I doubt their constituents said that. When Capital Hill got stormed, it wasn’t leaders or representatives that did that.
Yes.
Have been impressed with a few strong women legislators and Bernie, but the Democratic Party elite are compromised and part of the problem and not the solution. Won’t happen with either Schumer or Jeffries in charge. You had Supreme Court Justice Jackson admit publicly today that what keeps her up at night is the state of American democracy today. A remarkable statement. This should be viewed as a 5 alarm ⏰ fire warning. Instead, what do we get from Dem.
leadership? Theatrical all night speeches. 🤮
If they won’t reject coporate money then they probably won’t put their lives on the line.
Uh, no, voters want accountability, not blood. Stupid vengeance and bloodlust got us this idiocracy.
Instead of “when they go low, we go high”, it needs to be “when they go low, I’ll hold their face next to their shit and say bad dog then show them where to shit outside until they’ve learned not to shit inside”.
We’re tired of MAGA pushing their agenda through using loopholes, rulings from 1832, and blatant disregard for the law.
Michelle Obama was wrong. When they go low, put your foot on their throat. No more decorum and tradition. Fuck em.
inb4 *THE VIOLENT LEFT* comments.
What we need is a strongly worded press release from Senator Wall Street himself, Chuck Schumer.
>The outlet spoke to more than two dozen House [Democrats](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/democrats), many of whom said their constituents had demanded extreme measures and even violence in order to exact change.
>“Some of them have suggested … what we really need to do is be willing to get shot“ when visiting ICE facilities or other federal agencies, another lawmaker told *Axios.*
Goddamn….
I’d hate to be a House Dem right now. Have absolutely no power and then I got activist constituents telling me to get shot/killed.
I know Dems are pissed, but this is your punishment. Dems failed to show up in force in the presidential election. Now it’s time to pay the price for sitting home.
The one time we could have done something….shutting down the govt….Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillebrand (NY Dems) refused to take that leap forward. Blame NY for electing some shitty people into office.
You mean a strongly worded letter isn’t fighting dirty? I mean I got ink stains on my French cuffs. That’s not going come out in the dry cleaners. I’m just going to have to throw the shirt out. Don’t tell me I’m not sacrificing for my country sir!
How about the Reps just fight Trump and his MAGA agenda? That would be a start. AFAIK, the Democratic party is still being polite while never failing to ask voters for more money, daily!
At the VERY LEAST, fight within the system using all the parliamentary rules that the GOP uses against democracy.
And when you’ve won, change the rules to make it fair for ALL and not just the donors.
Give us medicare for all, legalize marijuana, get rid of citizens united, root out corruption, WHEREVER it exists… Work for the people and make your positions those of servants again.
Is anyone surprised most of the current Democrats are doing nothing outside of strongly written letters? They benefit from the same billionaires and game as the GOP. We need money out of politics.
Controlled opposition gets people begging the controlled opposition to do something, anything, but be controlled opposition. Ranked choice voting, let’s get our choices back rather than the uniparty’s tricks, lies, deceit, false promises, hypocritical decadence of our FOOLISH leaders.
Yes, but it doesn’t help when several of you continue to go so far as to claim that the Democrats are the ones responsible for why the Trump regime is doing all these horrible things to begin with. I mean, how does it make our situation regarding fascism any better?
I really don’t understand why blue state governors aren’t using their state national guard to literally fight back against ICE. The federal government has been taken over by a fascist dictatorship. The old relationship between the states and the fed is long gone, and it’s about damn time elected officials recognize that.
Kinda like the Jan 6er did
Yep. The only good fight i’ve seen is Newsom suing Fox. the next best thing has been that that absolutely fruitless booker speech which made me want to vomit
newsom is currently my guy
Before Trump was elected, they called him dangerous.
Now he’s being dangerous, and literally disappearing people, and they’re still doing the same letter writing campaigns and stern statements.
The Democratic leadership isn’t interested in fighting fascism, they’re only interested in softening it.
Yes.
Getting arrested or shot at is.silly. but fighting dirty should them finally realizing that the Right has already lit decorum on fire, and the Dems need to act like it. That the norms are now gone.
dems are just the other side of the same coin. the progressive and non-bought dems needs to just break off and leave the party. Let the Fetterman’s go be where they want to be.
Fuck yeah!!!
We ain’t dealing with Trent Lott and Paul Ryan. Time to start acting accordingly.
Jasmine Crockett and AOC are the answer.
Incidentally, I’m a staunch moderate, but this isn’t the time for moderation. Moderation in this era is a luxury we simply cannot afford. Not with evil fucks like Stephen Miller, who makes Dick Cheney look like gramps. They’re playing dirty pool, so should we. Being holier than thou pearl clutchers ain’t gonna get the job done.
Fight, goddamnit!
There are millions of us (I saw you all out there on June 14th in solidarity!) waiting for everyone else, including our „representatives“, to wake the hell up and admit what this is and what needs to be done about it.
I dont think its a good idea to request blood
Anson Burlingame energy
Democrats are afraid to offend a <0.1% of the population demographic. How are the same people supposed to effectively fight Trump?
The pushback should have been during Biden’s 4 years
Read LBJ bio by Caro. „He’d cut your arm off and beat you over the head with it.’ Ruthless political animal, and genius. Not a good guy but did pass Civil Rights
Literally
Well first, you actually need to make the Democrats DO anything against Trump, Mueller, Vance and the rest of their batshit army before you shed blood.
Because it seems like they’ve resigned themselves to this fate if they aren’t trying to get rid of Mamdani before the MAGA crowd does it for them.
I wouldn’t be shocked if they lost midterms the way things are going with their party and the lack of inaction despite the repeated call to arms.
Democrats REALLY need to listen to Sean Connery’s Chicago Way speech from The Untouchables.
UK paper foments rebellion in US.