Jdvance: Einige Amerikaner sind amerikanischer als andere
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/jd-vance-some-americans-are-more-american-than-others
Jdvance: Einige Amerikaner sind amerikanischer als andere
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/jd-vance-some-americans-are-more-american-than-others
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Animal Farm
We know, it’s called the electoral college.
That’s not how that works you fucking tool.
And some couches are more fuckable than others.
He wants to replace “American as a set of ideals” with “Americans are a people.” And who, in his mind, will determine the criteria and mythology for such a people? The GOP.
That is some straight up Nazi shit
Wake up America. There’s only one way out of it and the sooner you start the less messy it is.
I assume he’s not talking about his wife
What kind of American are you?
>“I think the people whose ancestors fought in the Civil War have a hell of a lot more claim over America than the people who say they don’t belong,” he concluded.
On which side, JD? ON WHICH SIDE?!?
Vance has gotta be quoting Animal Farm intentionally, right?
MAGA is un-American.
Do we want to identify ourselves as the people who are most committed to the ideals of liberty, equality, and democracy; or do we want to identify ourselves as the people whose ancestors were the best at killing Indians and exploiting Black people?
I know which vision of America *I* think is worth being proud of.
Damn. We actually completed a legitimate Wiemar Republic to Nazi Germany to Fall of Nazi Germany speed run.
My question is how? We didn’t even get fancy new uniforms for the Army. I mean we got doofball renta-cops for ICE but that can’t count, can it?
Does pretending to hold little boxes, while talking, make one more American?
Lemme guess: 2/5 more American?
Remind me, BJ Vance, where your wife Usha is from?
Thinking this is un-American
Well, since his kids are half-Indian, does that mean that they are less ‚Murikan than me?
Straight out of animal farm.
„some animals are more equal than others“
> “Identifying America just with agreeing with the principles, let’s say, of the Declaration of Independence — that’s a definition that is way over-inclusive and under-inclusive at the same time,” Vance said.
> He explained that such a definition “would include hundreds of millions, maybe billions of foreign citizens who agree” with the principles of the Declaration of Independence, dubbing it “the logic of America as a purely Creole nation.”
> By the opposite token, Vance said, conceiving of American citizenship “purely as an idea” would “reject a lot of people that the ADL would label as domestic extremists, even though those very Americans had their ancestors fight in the Revolutionary War and the Civil War,” he said, referencing the Anti-Defamation League, a nonprofit that was founded to combat antisemitism and that, among other activities, tracks far-right groups.
> “I think the people whose ancestors fought in the Civil War have a hell of a lot more claim over America than the people who say they don’t belong,” he concluded.
Similar vibes to:
– „All Animals are Equal! But Some Animals are More Equal Than Others!“ – Animal Farm (1945)
– „What kind of American are you?“ – Civil War (2024)
I’m guessing the percentage of European Americans with ancestors that were even here in the 1860s is low. Huge numbers arrived well after.
Not sure what his goal is with statement, but he better not look this up.
Can we just keep the immigrants and throw these mfs out of the country?
Are we at the „true Scotsman“ stage? That always ends well /s
Listen, you are American or you are not. There is no grey. Americans are born all over the world. They just haven’t come home yet.
“Some Germans Are More German Than Others” Adolf Hitler, 1936 (probably)
Those who wear mascara are way more American!
Vance is deeply dishonest. If he believes what he says he believes, he should be discarding his wife and babies.
Always interesting to hear what the make-up wearing leaders of the party that has an issue with transgender folks have to say about patriotism. 🤮
I can’t believe we are still feeling the repercussions of the Union not completely wiping out all confederates. The ancestors of confederates have been fighting the USA ever since the end of the civil war. They oppose all progress and vote against their own interests with the sole objective of destabilizing the country and causing division.
We need to purge the racists, homophobes, and misogynists not only from our government but from our society! They do not deserve all the benefits they receive from people they hate.
Native americans ?
My ancestors fought in the revolutionary war.
They relocated to Canada after they lost.
This is the most important aspect of my ancestry as it pertains to my freedom and happiness.
Native Americans must be having seizures reading this.
Somebody should post this to the Conspiracy sub. I’d do it, but I got permabanned there for suggesting that the sub kisses Putin’s ass.
“I think the people whose ancestors fought in the Civil War have a hell of a lot more claim over America than the people who say they don’t belong,” he concluded.
Fighting for the Confederacy, against the Union, against the very essence of the United States, is pretty fucking un-American!
Oh. Oh we’re not even trying to NOT look like Animal Farm now?
I guess Natives are the most American then. They should have all the say.
You know what? I agree with him.
Because people that say shitty things like this aren’t very American. Absolutely unamerican
Cool, then can we deport folks whose professed heritage aligns them with the Confederacy?
It’s true though.
Vance is much less American than a lot of other Americans.
The insane ravings of an ignorant racist.
Just more proof that for all their whining about Orwell whenever the government does literally anything, none of these cretins have actually read a word of his works.
The Native American community has entered the chat.
Native Americans are more American than Trump and Vance.
I guarantee no one asked him how do African-Americans whose ancestors were brought over as slaves ranked IAW with his f’ed up logic. When you consider that slaves could no longer be brought over after 1807, many of them of them were here longer than Europeans.
Just sayin.
He’s more or less doing a „blood and soil“ bit that’s geared to appeal to a certain type of person. A type of person you really don’t want a part of this society.
Correct. People who say shit like this are, indeed, the least American
Did they seriously never take sophomore Literature? Is he paraphrasing Animal Farm on purpose?
What’s next, immigrants are double plus ungood?
It’s true. Democrats are more American than republicans. Republicans are barely human.
Maga is one of the most anti-american groups this country has ever seen. However, I doubt that’s what JP Mandel meant by that…
Non-American in chrinological order:
1. Illegal immigrants
2. Non-whites with immigrant parents.
***we are here***
3. Non-whites.
4. Democrats.
5. Any resistance to republican authority.