Sad, though the inverse happened in Azerbaijan too.
kurdechanian on
No Greeks either huh
Illustrious_Page_984 on
Just to make sure; Sevan Nişanyan is one of the most pro-Armenian, pro-Russian; anti-Turk and probably anti-Azeri people in the planet. So even if he agrees there was an ethnic cleansing in Armenia, you simply cannot argue it otherwise.
Money_Tomorrow_698 on
The expulsion of kurds was done by Stalin not Armenians
Bayaq da saytların birində belə bir şəkil gördüm. Day bilmirəm doğru söhbətdi ya yox.
great_starry_nights on
Opinion of an ethnically cleansed Armenian from Ganca and facts you should know.
This is not the ethnic presence of a minority. It’s the majority in the region. Do you really think Armenians are about to expel Assyrians, the most similar ethnicity to them? And there are many Kurds in Armenia to this day in those same areas.
Most expulsions before the Karabakh conflicts were made by Stalin (with some help from the Dashnaks, tbf)
Finally, I don’t like these types of posts. Where is the side by side ethnic map of Azerbaijan in 1886 to 2024? This type of post highlights one sides crimes over another, when in reality both sides did pretty much the same things to each other.
This is not fake, fellow Armenians or Azerbaijanis. For every post you must see why the user posted it. Every post has an agenda. This post is intended to create conflict and remind of Armenian wrongdoings in times of near peace. Why? I don’t know.
Open-Employ3158 on
Some day there will be justice
jozi-k on
Now do same for roman or byzantine empire 😉
alpguvenn on
Fuck sevan nişanyan btw
Stek02 on
Every caucasian republic comitted ethnic cleansing. The capital of Georgia used to have an Armenian majority in the 19th century. Baku’s population was 10% armenian at one point, not to mention Karabakh and Eastern Turkey.
ernestbonanza on
system of a down’ın türkiye bayrağını öpmesi gibi bir harita olmuş lol
I condemn Armenians g*nociding Azeris but I also condemn turks and Shirvan tatars for g*nociding Armenians none of you are innocent specially what you guys did too Anush Apetyan also watch people in the comments squirm and deny it happend
Die_Steiner on
Makes sense. The killings, forced displacement and exchanges that plagued the Caucasus 100 years ago caused this.
en-prise on
The fact that it is coming from the most pro Armenian and anti Turk person who have ever lived on the world is make it funny.
Sure_Sundae2709 on
Lol, why don’t they show the majority Armenian areas in Turkey and Azerbaijan at the same time?
Lumpy_Drawer_6959 on
You are being dramatic
margustoo on
Something happened between 1915-1917 that forced Armenians to move away from Asia Minor and make Azeris minority in modern day Armenia. I wonder what happened. Mhmmm.
Corleone0 on
Being from the Balkans sadly I know how it feels to live in such a turbulent region like Caucasus 🙁
assets_coldbrew1992 on
Stop you guys. Stop the hate damm
fgda92 on
I can show you a similar map with the armenian population in Eastern Anatolia and probably you won’t accept the reality.
Ergenek0n on
When people talk about 1915, a crucial part of the historical context is often ignored. There’s rarely any mention of how there was a joint invasion with Russia, during which a brutal war was waged against the Muslim population, and how certain regions were ethnically cleansed in the process.
Similar patterns played out in the Balkans. In the 19th and early 20th centuries, Russia fueled nationalist movements, which led to the ethnic cleansing of Balkan Turks and Circassians. Many of them were forcibly pushed into Anatolia.
These aspects of history are frequently left out, even though they’re essential for understanding the full picture of the era.
Btw. Post this in r/Europe and you getting eaten alive.
How2chair on
NOOOOOO! ONLY ARMENIANS CAN PULL THE ETHNIC CLEANSING CARD! EVEN WHEN IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE!!!!!
Crouteauxpommes on
Numbers would have been interesting too, not just raw majority data.
Because 1886 is only a few decades prior to the Hamidian massacres of christians (mostly Armenians but also Assyrian and pontic Greek) that happens under Abdulhamid II that killed tens of thousands and affected half a million people in eastern Anatolia.
Many of them flew to Russian-controlled Armenia and Georgia, thus changing the demographics there.
And after the WWI massacres/genocide, the end of the war and the Turkish revolution, even more Armenians fled to the area.
140 years is too wide of a gap and modern day border Armenia is too small of an area to allow proper analysis. It’s bonkers.
Witty_Confidence_145 on
Stop acting like you are better and that you haven’t been doing the same thing. This goes for Armenians too, you both ethnically cleansed each other.
Jolly_Employee_8430 on
Artvashen being considered „majority armenian“ should be enough to know that this map is bullshit.
Expert-Repair-2971 on
they are drying the urmiya lake to get the turks to leave south azerbaijan ethnic cleansing is still going on
Mammedoff on
some mfs gonna say there were no azerbaijanis in armenia
Able-Dragonfruit4531 on
Azeribaijan will complain for everything and everyone land. where were they before 1900?
Zlevi04 on
Is this a way of Azerbaijan to somehow make themselves a victim? Anyone knows that both sides have committed atrocities but neither is innocent
validproof on
Go back a few more hundred years, where the mongol hord hadn’t come to Anatolia yet and when Turks didn’t exist and it was all just Armenian highlands. With your logic, all of AZ and turkey should not exist.
NapoleonicCode on
A much more helpful projection of this map would be sized up by population. For example, notice that large Molokan strip in the south? It makes it seem like there was one Molokan per square inch, when in reality that was a district which may have had 5 or 5000 people in it. It’s not clear. And as certain areas were multi-ethnic, but we only see one color per district, does the map just color in whoever had the most, even if it’s close?
This kind of map is like the one for the 2016 U.S. presidential election, coloring every district red or blue. If you look at it, you’d think Republicans dominated the country, because the very large areas with low population vote red, while there were only a handful of Democrats anywhere, when in actuality Democrats won the popular vote.
de4cha on
How many Armenians you genocided again?
Popular_Animator_808 on
That’s one hell of a time scale
Gepoo13 on
If you dont believe me, ask ChatGPT, google, if anything CLOSE to this event has happened in 1886. And if you think that those sources are manipulated by Armenians to give out pro Armenians news (🤡) ask actual credible known and neutral historians. You will see how brainwashed you people are. This is truly hilarious. Dont take my word, do your research.
EarthTraditional3329 on
Bad Map, exaggerated and made by Pan-Turks. Here’s a better one.
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Sad, though the inverse happened in Azerbaijan too.
No Greeks either huh
Just to make sure; Sevan Nişanyan is one of the most pro-Armenian, pro-Russian; anti-Turk and probably anti-Azeri people in the planet. So even if he agrees there was an ethnic cleansing in Armenia, you simply cannot argue it otherwise.
The expulsion of kurds was done by Stalin not Armenians
Molokans?
https://preview.redd.it/t306kja5jabf1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48560f7595837a091354fd74f8675ccb00a68e6f
Bayaq da saytların birində belə bir şəkil gördüm. Day bilmirəm doğru söhbətdi ya yox.
Opinion of an ethnically cleansed Armenian from Ganca and facts you should know.
This is not the ethnic presence of a minority. It’s the majority in the region. Do you really think Armenians are about to expel Assyrians, the most similar ethnicity to them? And there are many Kurds in Armenia to this day in those same areas.
Most expulsions before the Karabakh conflicts were made by Stalin (with some help from the Dashnaks, tbf)
Finally, I don’t like these types of posts. Where is the side by side ethnic map of Azerbaijan in 1886 to 2024? This type of post highlights one sides crimes over another, when in reality both sides did pretty much the same things to each other.
This is not fake, fellow Armenians or Azerbaijanis. For every post you must see why the user posted it. Every post has an agenda. This post is intended to create conflict and remind of Armenian wrongdoings in times of near peace. Why? I don’t know.
Some day there will be justice
Now do same for roman or byzantine empire 😉
Fuck sevan nişanyan btw
Every caucasian republic comitted ethnic cleansing. The capital of Georgia used to have an Armenian majority in the 19th century. Baku’s population was 10% armenian at one point, not to mention Karabakh and Eastern Turkey.
system of a down’ın türkiye bayrağını öpmesi gibi bir harita olmuş lol
https://preview.redd.it/ifhku7ir1bbf1.jpeg?width=854&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11d333a4bb3b249b018d59a7806a60c347682932
I condemn Armenians g*nociding Azeris but I also condemn turks and Shirvan tatars for g*nociding Armenians none of you are innocent specially what you guys did too Anush Apetyan also watch people in the comments squirm and deny it happend
Makes sense. The killings, forced displacement and exchanges that plagued the Caucasus 100 years ago caused this.
The fact that it is coming from the most pro Armenian and anti Turk person who have ever lived on the world is make it funny.
Lol, why don’t they show the majority Armenian areas in Turkey and Azerbaijan at the same time?
You are being dramatic
Something happened between 1915-1917 that forced Armenians to move away from Asia Minor and make Azeris minority in modern day Armenia. I wonder what happened. Mhmmm.
Being from the Balkans sadly I know how it feels to live in such a turbulent region like Caucasus 🙁
Stop you guys. Stop the hate damm
I can show you a similar map with the armenian population in Eastern Anatolia and probably you won’t accept the reality.
When people talk about 1915, a crucial part of the historical context is often ignored. There’s rarely any mention of how there was a joint invasion with Russia, during which a brutal war was waged against the Muslim population, and how certain regions were ethnically cleansed in the process.
Similar patterns played out in the Balkans. In the 19th and early 20th centuries, Russia fueled nationalist movements, which led to the ethnic cleansing of Balkan Turks and Circassians. Many of them were forcibly pushed into Anatolia.
These aspects of history are frequently left out, even though they’re essential for understanding the full picture of the era.
Btw. Post this in r/Europe and you getting eaten alive.
NOOOOOO! ONLY ARMENIANS CAN PULL THE ETHNIC CLEANSING CARD! EVEN WHEN IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE!!!!!
Numbers would have been interesting too, not just raw majority data.
Because 1886 is only a few decades prior to the Hamidian massacres of christians (mostly Armenians but also Assyrian and pontic Greek) that happens under Abdulhamid II that killed tens of thousands and affected half a million people in eastern Anatolia.
Many of them flew to Russian-controlled Armenia and Georgia, thus changing the demographics there.
And after the WWI massacres/genocide, the end of the war and the Turkish revolution, even more Armenians fled to the area.
140 years is too wide of a gap and modern day border Armenia is too small of an area to allow proper analysis. It’s bonkers.
Stop acting like you are better and that you haven’t been doing the same thing. This goes for Armenians too, you both ethnically cleansed each other.
Artvashen being considered „majority armenian“ should be enough to know that this map is bullshit.
they are drying the urmiya lake to get the turks to leave south azerbaijan ethnic cleansing is still going on
some mfs gonna say there were no azerbaijanis in armenia
Azeribaijan will complain for everything and everyone land. where were they before 1900?
Is this a way of Azerbaijan to somehow make themselves a victim? Anyone knows that both sides have committed atrocities but neither is innocent
Go back a few more hundred years, where the mongol hord hadn’t come to Anatolia yet and when Turks didn’t exist and it was all just Armenian highlands. With your logic, all of AZ and turkey should not exist.
A much more helpful projection of this map would be sized up by population. For example, notice that large Molokan strip in the south? It makes it seem like there was one Molokan per square inch, when in reality that was a district which may have had 5 or 5000 people in it. It’s not clear. And as certain areas were multi-ethnic, but we only see one color per district, does the map just color in whoever had the most, even if it’s close?
This kind of map is like the one for the 2016 U.S. presidential election, coloring every district red or blue. If you look at it, you’d think Republicans dominated the country, because the very large areas with low population vote red, while there were only a handful of Democrats anywhere, when in actuality Democrats won the popular vote.
How many Armenians you genocided again?
That’s one hell of a time scale
If you dont believe me, ask ChatGPT, google, if anything CLOSE to this event has happened in 1886. And if you think that those sources are manipulated by Armenians to give out pro Armenians news (🤡) ask actual credible known and neutral historians. You will see how brainwashed you people are. This is truly hilarious. Dont take my word, do your research.
Bad Map, exaggerated and made by Pan-Turks. Here’s a better one.
https://preview.redd.it/4g4optd73jbf1.png?width=3912&format=png&auto=webp&s=6fa0bd0c7a67e676a9933e833d20f16846b53ee5
https://preview.redd.it/v6fy5tilrjbf1.jpeg?width=5400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=394c92f9179aff7f203180c1c08514ed12b7621d