Every other first world country, and almost all developed nations, have decoupled health insurance from work. This is how you know we are a third world country.
Practical-Bit9905 on
Work till you drop dead Grandma! Sacrifice yourself to the corporations! It it the only way your life has meaning! Kneel before the board and thank them for your existence!
FawningDeer37 on
Are these jobs in the room with us?
You want us to get jobs?
Ban outsourcing all these white collar jobs to India and god knows where.
It’s not like being a field picker will provide you insurance. The problem is that while they use the promise of jobs to deport Hispanics, they’re ignoring the fact that actual good jobs are being hovered up by outsourcing.
dremonearm on
Do all jobs come with health insurance?
BeowulfShaeffer on
With waves of layoffs and all kinds of publicity for how AI will replace jobs, and increasing concentration of wealth this almost literally means “make sure rich people find you useful making themselves richer, otherwise please die.” A very Ayn Randian view of the world.
Aretirednurse on
Not everyone is healthy enough to work to death. After 47 years of working as a nurse my body is broken.
bluntasarock on
It’s a really shameful telling of how fucked the u.s is, where having health care is a luxury rather than a right like it is in some countries. Also what jobs, the ones that pay well enough to afford it, or actually provide benefits in the first place, are very difficult to get for many people. But my words fall on deaf ears because this administration and those that support it don’t give a fuck about rights or doing something to make life easier for anyone. The u.s is completely fucked.
McNuttyNutz on
Says the asshole who has never worked a real job and wanted for health care a day in his life I’m sure
LordSiravant on
What jobs??? The market is extremely competitive and user-unfriendly. Ghost jobs, lean staffing, nepo hires, outsourcing, and applicant tracking AIs have all made finding a job virtually impossible these days. People can send out a hundred applications a week and get not one reply. So I say again: *what jobs*???
Apprehensive-Ad9523 on
Yea what jobs? Do waiters get heath insurance? More scary talk. Oh wait. I can just easily move to Iowa wand work on the farms. Doesn’t all this take place in 18 months.
lr99999 on
13.1 million losing Medicaid are elderly and disabled, and millions more are younger disabled and can’t work.They have lots of ideas about what should happen to the serfs.
I have some ideas about what we need to do to them, but I’d definitely get banned for saying.
YetiSquish on
Oh since when does having a job ensure health insurance? Did I miss the GOP passing a law mandating employers provide health insurance?
jasoncross00 on
Then pass legislation requiring all employers to provide health insurance regardless of size, with minimum standards for what’s covered and the rates.
Asshole.
FormerUsenetUser on
And, is Congress doing anything to stop companies employing people just under half time to avoid giving them any benefits, including health insurance?
After_Flan_2663 on
Really? What kind of a job is available for us poor civilians to find? Tell us old wise one.
Waffuru on
The trick is finding a job that’ll give you insurance…
nychb89 on
I really do wonder when this is all going to come to a head and we have our own French Revolution.
The oligarchs and political elites in this country are bleeding us dry and are completely out of touch with how painful the cost of living has become for much of this country.
Get a job for insurance?? People do work and still can’t get insurance!! The health care in this country is beyond broken and these assholes know it.
romacopia on
Because fuck students, homemakers, and caregivers. If you aren’t currently making a capitalist money, republicans want you to die.
bkdotcom on
Can we please decouple health insurance from employeer?!
spookydooky69420 on
I have a job that provides health coverage and I still end up paying out of pocket because I’m not going to the doctor enough to meet a deductible amount.
ezagreb on
Many starter and low wage jobs don’t provide any sort of health insurance. So this is an empty recommendation
themattboard on
Enjoy this 31.5 hour a week job. Benefits available for employees working 32 hours a week or more.
Edit: this happened to me 25 years ago. I’m sure it is even more prevalent now
williamgman on
The only industrialized country in world that does this.
So <32 hrs at Walmart gets you on what plan..? Asking for a freind.
Zeddo52SD on
I have a job. I don’t make enough to afford below average health insurance, but I make too much to qualify for Medicaid. The expansion has a waitlist in my state, and they just lowered the total available spots as is.
darth_helcaraxe_82 on
America the only modern nation that cannot figure out how to provide healthcare for everyone living there.
cepcpa on
This is hilarious, do these people not understand that many jobs do not come with health insurance? Why aren’t they going after Walmart (and other big companies) when some huge percentage of their employees are eligible for Medicaid?
dancefan2019 on
A lot of companies don’t offer health insurance. A lot of companies will keep employee hours just under the amount needed to qualify for their health insurance. Getting a job is no guarantee of health insurance.
RancidHorseJizz on
Do you mean all those gig economy jobs without health care or all the jobs paying $14/hour without healthcare? Just get ACA coverage, you say? You mean the coverage you are killing off? I’m sure we can afford private healthcare in the free market on $30,000/year and if not, we’ll have to go on Medicaid.
Rusalka-rusalka on
Yea, all you seniors collecting SSI and Medicare just need to get a job!
FedrinKeening on
I have a job. My health insurance fucking sucks.
LulzLookatTheseNoobs on
Get a job as they cut as many federal jobs as possible.
TheFirstLanguage on
Medical students can no longer borrow enough money to go to medical school, so health insurance isn’t going to matter in a few years anyway.
percydaman on
Politicians (national level specifically) need do nothing more than win a „popularity“ contest, and they have cadillac level health insurance for life. Fuck these guys.
ThereGoesTheSquash on
It’s just awesome that my husband who has cancer and is a stay at home dad is completely reliant on my health and my job to live, as he cannot work.
I am serious when I say this: burn it all fucking down.
DramaticCattleDog on
I graduated summa cum laude in college, also earning an additional award for being top of class in my degree program. I’ve got 10 years of experience as a software engineer and have led development teams for the past few years, delivering software and apps used by companies operating globally.
I got laid off in February, my role backfilled by offshore contractors within a few weeks. After 5 months and 200+ applications, each resume and cover letter tailored specifically to the job posting without making ChatGPT write them for me, guess how many interviews I’ve gotten?
2. And those were just the initial phone screening to talk with the recruiter. Both ghosted me after the first call, not even attempting to test my technical skills or deep dive into my resume.
So tell me, where are all these jobs we’re supposed to get? I can’t even get a job as a bartender, which I did full-time while in college, because they don’t want to waste the time hiring me so I would ultimately leave when I got an engineering offer.
So now I get to spend month after month, draining my savings and everything I built up in my career, all without health insurance because it costs too much to purchase privately.
GunnieGraves on
I’ve been out of work since March. I’ve applied to hundreds of jobs. I’ve gotten 2 interviews. One employer ghosted me after the second round, another I’m waiting to hear back from. I’ve got maybe 2 months worth of unemployment left, which is about 2500 per month. I’ve got to support a family of 4 on that. I’m on my states Medicaid plan, and that’s the one thing keeping me from being completely desperate. That at least I have health coverage should something happen to myself or my family.
I’m fairly sane, I don’t own a firearm, and I wouldn’t do well in jail. But what do they think is going to happen when people keep getting pushed further and further? I mean, they’re hitting their own voters pretty hard too, and they’ve shown a propensity for violence. I guess their plan is to keep people so desperate they’re just too busy scraping by to revolt.
Blochamolesauce on
Oh, a job? You want me to just get a job?! Well how about I strap on my job helmet, get into a job canon, and shoot off in to Job-land, where the jobs grow on jobbies!
chuang-tzu on
Tying access to healthcare to employment is the kind of monstrously barbaric thinking/policy that should shake people lose from the delusion that Capitalism is anything other than an immoral pyramid scheme that will always spiral toward authoritarianism and cruelty (for the sake of profit!!!) and will always service the needs/wants of the few at the expense of the many. They quite literally build political and judicial systems to enforce that ethos.
The_High_Life on
46% of US jobs don’t provide healthcare. I guess fuck those people, right?
homesweethome2020 on
Insurance is a scam and never should be tied to your job Other developed countries can make universal healthcare work but the insurance companies are making too much money to ever want that to happen. It has also been a fact that universal healthcare is less expensive than the system we have now
ktc653 on
This is why a majority of Americans (57%) support Medicare for All.
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Every other first world country, and almost all developed nations, have decoupled health insurance from work. This is how you know we are a third world country.
Work till you drop dead Grandma! Sacrifice yourself to the corporations! It it the only way your life has meaning! Kneel before the board and thank them for your existence!
Are these jobs in the room with us?
You want us to get jobs?
Ban outsourcing all these white collar jobs to India and god knows where.
It’s not like being a field picker will provide you insurance. The problem is that while they use the promise of jobs to deport Hispanics, they’re ignoring the fact that actual good jobs are being hovered up by outsourcing.
Do all jobs come with health insurance?
With waves of layoffs and all kinds of publicity for how AI will replace jobs, and increasing concentration of wealth this almost literally means “make sure rich people find you useful making themselves richer, otherwise please die.” A very Ayn Randian view of the world.
Not everyone is healthy enough to work to death. After 47 years of working as a nurse my body is broken.
It’s a really shameful telling of how fucked the u.s is, where having health care is a luxury rather than a right like it is in some countries. Also what jobs, the ones that pay well enough to afford it, or actually provide benefits in the first place, are very difficult to get for many people. But my words fall on deaf ears because this administration and those that support it don’t give a fuck about rights or doing something to make life easier for anyone. The u.s is completely fucked.
Says the asshole who has never worked a real job and wanted for health care a day in his life I’m sure
What jobs??? The market is extremely competitive and user-unfriendly. Ghost jobs, lean staffing, nepo hires, outsourcing, and applicant tracking AIs have all made finding a job virtually impossible these days. People can send out a hundred applications a week and get not one reply. So I say again: *what jobs*???
Yea what jobs? Do waiters get heath insurance? More scary talk. Oh wait. I can just easily move to Iowa wand work on the farms. Doesn’t all this take place in 18 months.
13.1 million losing Medicaid are elderly and disabled, and millions more are younger disabled and can’t work.They have lots of ideas about what should happen to the serfs.
I have some ideas about what we need to do to them, but I’d definitely get banned for saying.
Oh since when does having a job ensure health insurance? Did I miss the GOP passing a law mandating employers provide health insurance?
Then pass legislation requiring all employers to provide health insurance regardless of size, with minimum standards for what’s covered and the rates.
Asshole.
And, is Congress doing anything to stop companies employing people just under half time to avoid giving them any benefits, including health insurance?
Really? What kind of a job is available for us poor civilians to find? Tell us old wise one.
The trick is finding a job that’ll give you insurance…
I really do wonder when this is all going to come to a head and we have our own French Revolution.
The oligarchs and political elites in this country are bleeding us dry and are completely out of touch with how painful the cost of living has become for much of this country.
Get a job for insurance?? People do work and still can’t get insurance!! The health care in this country is beyond broken and these assholes know it.
Because fuck students, homemakers, and caregivers. If you aren’t currently making a capitalist money, republicans want you to die.
Can we please decouple health insurance from employeer?!
I have a job that provides health coverage and I still end up paying out of pocket because I’m not going to the doctor enough to meet a deductible amount.
Many starter and low wage jobs don’t provide any sort of health insurance. So this is an empty recommendation
Enjoy this 31.5 hour a week job. Benefits available for employees working 32 hours a week or more.
Edit: this happened to me 25 years ago. I’m sure it is even more prevalent now
The only industrialized country in world that does this.
So <32 hrs at Walmart gets you on what plan..? Asking for a freind.
I have a job. I don’t make enough to afford below average health insurance, but I make too much to qualify for Medicaid. The expansion has a waitlist in my state, and they just lowered the total available spots as is.
America the only modern nation that cannot figure out how to provide healthcare for everyone living there.
This is hilarious, do these people not understand that many jobs do not come with health insurance? Why aren’t they going after Walmart (and other big companies) when some huge percentage of their employees are eligible for Medicaid?
A lot of companies don’t offer health insurance. A lot of companies will keep employee hours just under the amount needed to qualify for their health insurance. Getting a job is no guarantee of health insurance.
Do you mean all those gig economy jobs without health care or all the jobs paying $14/hour without healthcare? Just get ACA coverage, you say? You mean the coverage you are killing off? I’m sure we can afford private healthcare in the free market on $30,000/year and if not, we’ll have to go on Medicaid.
Yea, all you seniors collecting SSI and Medicare just need to get a job!
I have a job. My health insurance fucking sucks.
Get a job as they cut as many federal jobs as possible.
Medical students can no longer borrow enough money to go to medical school, so health insurance isn’t going to matter in a few years anyway.
Politicians (national level specifically) need do nothing more than win a „popularity“ contest, and they have cadillac level health insurance for life. Fuck these guys.
It’s just awesome that my husband who has cancer and is a stay at home dad is completely reliant on my health and my job to live, as he cannot work.
I am serious when I say this: burn it all fucking down.
I graduated summa cum laude in college, also earning an additional award for being top of class in my degree program. I’ve got 10 years of experience as a software engineer and have led development teams for the past few years, delivering software and apps used by companies operating globally.
I got laid off in February, my role backfilled by offshore contractors within a few weeks. After 5 months and 200+ applications, each resume and cover letter tailored specifically to the job posting without making ChatGPT write them for me, guess how many interviews I’ve gotten?
2. And those were just the initial phone screening to talk with the recruiter. Both ghosted me after the first call, not even attempting to test my technical skills or deep dive into my resume.
So tell me, where are all these jobs we’re supposed to get? I can’t even get a job as a bartender, which I did full-time while in college, because they don’t want to waste the time hiring me so I would ultimately leave when I got an engineering offer.
So now I get to spend month after month, draining my savings and everything I built up in my career, all without health insurance because it costs too much to purchase privately.
I’ve been out of work since March. I’ve applied to hundreds of jobs. I’ve gotten 2 interviews. One employer ghosted me after the second round, another I’m waiting to hear back from. I’ve got maybe 2 months worth of unemployment left, which is about 2500 per month. I’ve got to support a family of 4 on that. I’m on my states Medicaid plan, and that’s the one thing keeping me from being completely desperate. That at least I have health coverage should something happen to myself or my family.
I’m fairly sane, I don’t own a firearm, and I wouldn’t do well in jail. But what do they think is going to happen when people keep getting pushed further and further? I mean, they’re hitting their own voters pretty hard too, and they’ve shown a propensity for violence. I guess their plan is to keep people so desperate they’re just too busy scraping by to revolt.
Oh, a job? You want me to just get a job?! Well how about I strap on my job helmet, get into a job canon, and shoot off in to Job-land, where the jobs grow on jobbies!
Tying access to healthcare to employment is the kind of monstrously barbaric thinking/policy that should shake people lose from the delusion that Capitalism is anything other than an immoral pyramid scheme that will always spiral toward authoritarianism and cruelty (for the sake of profit!!!) and will always service the needs/wants of the few at the expense of the many. They quite literally build political and judicial systems to enforce that ethos.
46% of US jobs don’t provide healthcare. I guess fuck those people, right?
Insurance is a scam and never should be tied to your job Other developed countries can make universal healthcare work but the insurance companies are making too much money to ever want that to happen. It has also been a fact that universal healthcare is less expensive than the system we have now
This is why a majority of Americans (57%) support Medicare for All.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/468401/majority-say-gov-ensure-healthcare.aspx
Every human deserves health care, period. No strings attached. Anything less is undeserving of a civil and humane society.
America is the only country on the planet where health insurance is tied to employment