yes because GCHQ invades and spies on absolutely everything we do.
they catch terrorists before they can properly organise to make bombs, let alone before they can get on the tube with them.
not a huge fan of such invasive state surveillance but can’t deny its stopped A LOT of incidents in their tracks without the public ever knowing.
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Let’s think about it. We went from being terrified of mass, intricately organised plots like 7/7 and the bottle bombing flights to a string of smaller, but still effective ISIS attacks in the 2010s, to today when Islamic terrorism is a virtually nullified issue and our biggest terror concern is a growing far right and potential lone wolf actors. I’d say we’re much safer.
I’d also like to state that age plays a big factor. There is a major concern with the radicalisation of 13-18 year olds by the far right. If their ideological views are not countered by the time they reach adulthood, we will have a generation of radicalised young adults with the means to commit acts of terror that teenagers do not possess.
ItsDominare on
The UK was safe before 7/7 and it’s been safe after it. Your odds of dying a violent death in this country are among the lowest in the entire world.
ShadowDarkstream on
Considering how many Muslims population has grown since then there really hasn’t been many attacks. Good on the authorities keeping us safe
Sensitive_Echo5058 on
Simple answer, no.
One only needs to look at the list of Islamic inspired terrorist attacks across Europe to see that they have increased in prevalence since 7/7. The list is too long for Reddit, so I can only attach a Wikipedia page:
We’ve absolutely failed as a nation to appropriately address and combat the rise in Islamist ideologies because we’re too kind and too tolerant. Collectively, we’d rather not risk being called racist than confront the Islamist in the room. British Muslims have also failed to inspire confidence that they will acknowledge pervasive problems exist within their own communities.
Whether it’s a governmental strategy to hire civil servants to pretend that everything is OK through ‚controlled spontaneity‘ or preplanned candlelight vigils:
Or the reluctance of the press to openly report on the background of perpetrators of extreme acts of violence.
It is no longer possible to bury heads in the sand and dismiss valid concerns as Islmaphobic.
The point at which we are safe is the point we can acknowledge these problems openly and debate the most effective (nonviolent) strategies to combat them.
Wouldn’t it be great if we could live in a country where we don’t need to ’see it, say it, sort it‘ for unattended luggage on the tube, we don’t need to take our shoes off for security checks or be scanned when catching a plane. We’re not exposed to public beheadings in the street (Lee Rigby), and our citizens don’t have to go into hiding and change their identities due to offending one community.
We are not free, whether restrictions exist on speech or through acts of daily living where there is always a risk that there will be an Islamic inspired terrorist attack. I don’t believe this was true pre 7/7.
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Security’s improved a lot, but the fear never totally goes away for some of us who remember 7/7
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yes because GCHQ invades and spies on absolutely everything we do.
they catch terrorists before they can properly organise to make bombs, let alone before they can get on the tube with them.
not a huge fan of such invasive state surveillance but can’t deny its stopped A LOT of incidents in their tracks without the public ever knowing.
Let’s think about it. We went from being terrified of mass, intricately organised plots like 7/7 and the bottle bombing flights to a string of smaller, but still effective ISIS attacks in the 2010s, to today when Islamic terrorism is a virtually nullified issue and our biggest terror concern is a growing far right and potential lone wolf actors. I’d say we’re much safer.
Edit: this comment seems to have sparked a bit of an argument over whether or not a growing radical far right is actually our next biggest terror threat. I say yes because if you look at the data, whilst Islamic extremism is still a severe threat, the quantity of PREVENT referrals which are far right has risen to 19% as of 2024, whereas Islamic extremism made up 13%. [Subsection 4.1 Referrals by Type of Concern](https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/individuals-referred-to-prevent-to-march-2024/individuals-referred-to-and-supported-through-the-prevent-programme-april-2023-to-march-2024).
In 2023 the [parliamentary record](https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2023-07-19/debates/68108A8C-0DCD-4E7F-A10A-BD376F3504F4/ContestUKStrategyForCounteringTerrorism2023?utm) said that far right cases made up 25% of MI5’s workload, to Islamic extremism’s 75%. This is evident of a growing trend, as Islamic extremism made up an overwhelmingly larger quantity of workload prior.
I’d also like to state that age plays a big factor. There is a major concern with the radicalisation of 13-18 year olds by the far right. If their ideological views are not countered by the time they reach adulthood, we will have a generation of radicalised young adults with the means to commit acts of terror that teenagers do not possess.
The UK was safe before 7/7 and it’s been safe after it. Your odds of dying a violent death in this country are among the lowest in the entire world.
Considering how many Muslims population has grown since then there really hasn’t been many attacks. Good on the authorities keeping us safe
Simple answer, no.
One only needs to look at the list of Islamic inspired terrorist attacks across Europe to see that they have increased in prevalence since 7/7. The list is too long for Reddit, so I can only attach a Wikipedia page:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism_in_Europe
We’ve absolutely failed as a nation to appropriately address and combat the rise in Islamist ideologies because we’re too kind and too tolerant. Collectively, we’d rather not risk being called racist than confront the Islamist in the room. British Muslims have also failed to inspire confidence that they will acknowledge pervasive problems exist within their own communities.
Whether it’s a governmental strategy to hire civil servants to pretend that everything is OK through ‚controlled spontaneity‘ or preplanned candlelight vigils:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/video/controlled-spontaneity-how-western-governments-plan-aftermath-terrorist-attacks
Or the reluctance of the press to openly report on the background of perpetrators of extreme acts of violence.
It is no longer possible to bury heads in the sand and dismiss valid concerns as Islmaphobic.
The point at which we are safe is the point we can acknowledge these problems openly and debate the most effective (nonviolent) strategies to combat them.
Wouldn’t it be great if we could live in a country where we don’t need to ’see it, say it, sort it‘ for unattended luggage on the tube, we don’t need to take our shoes off for security checks or be scanned when catching a plane. We’re not exposed to public beheadings in the street (Lee Rigby), and our citizens don’t have to go into hiding and change their identities due to offending one community.
We are not free, whether restrictions exist on speech or through acts of daily living where there is always a risk that there will be an Islamic inspired terrorist attack. I don’t believe this was true pre 7/7.
Security’s improved a lot, but the fear never totally goes away for some of us who remember 7/7