Throughout the campaign, Carney said that supply management and culture were off the table. The DST never came up; neither did banking.
If he holds firm to his red lines, the DST cancellation won’t matter, but I think that his government will quickly fall if he rolls back the other two. Both Ontario and Quebec governments hold firmly to supply management, and he’s more accountable to them than to Trump.
The problem is that there is no acting trade resolution entity to enforce trade agreements, the USA has judicial blocked appointments to the WTO Appellate Body, so they can’t render decisions.
zoziw on
I don’t even know where to begin to comment on this.
Trump says we have no cards but we do. Ford played one a few months ago that resulted in a meeting with Ford, LeBlanc and Lutnick. All we got out of that meeting was Ford saying that Lutnick gave a masterclass in tariffs, but the specifics were just what Lutnick had been saying since December. It was „elbows down“ after that.
Was the message to Ford that we will work something out or was it some kind of threat? Even with the increase in steel and aluminum tariffs to 50% it has just been delays and stalling tactics in our retaliation. If talks are going well, why hike our tariffs while leaving the UK tariffs at 25% because the US and UK were still talking when the tariffs went up.
The Canadian Ambassador to the US, who is now leading trade talks, told the media a couple of weeks ago that Canada still aimed to have all tariffs removed, but that same week, Carney was calling business leaders asking what kind of tariff they could live with.
When Trump cancelled talks over the DST, news leaked out that, up until that point, trade talks were moving swiftly. If they are moving swiftly, and they have been talking for months, what exactly is on the table? Is this just about steel, aluminium and autos? What else is on the table?
Trump keeps talking about supply management, we just passed legislation making it much more difficult to negotiate on that, yet there are no new threats…are we discussing that or not?
Right now, most CUSMA complaint goods are tariff free. Are those items on the table or not?
Carney called auto CEOs this week to update them on trade talks but all we heard out of that was the Auto CEOs wanting the EV mandate lifted.
We don’t want to negotiate in public but Canadians don’t even know what is being discussed and what we are being told publicly does not match what the government appears to be saying privately to CEOs and business leaders.
edit: a word
drjgmail on
It’s just caving in to Trump’s bullying. If he gets an inch, his next demand will be a mile.
I would have announced an increase to the DST as a starting poi6for talks.
MarkCEINE on
The DST is still the law of the land. It can be reimplemented any time. Let’s see how the whole deal goes down and then make necessary adjustments if Trump breaks it again or we can’t get something decent.
Duckriders4r on
Fold to what? We aren’t losing anything. The US has already lost hundreds of billions of dollars of trade to Canada in just the last 2 weeks.
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Throughout the campaign, Carney said that supply management and culture were off the table. The DST never came up; neither did banking.
If he holds firm to his red lines, the DST cancellation won’t matter, but I think that his government will quickly fall if he rolls back the other two. Both Ontario and Quebec governments hold firmly to supply management, and he’s more accountable to them than to Trump.
The problem is that there is no acting trade resolution entity to enforce trade agreements, the USA has judicial blocked appointments to the WTO Appellate Body, so they can’t render decisions.
I don’t even know where to begin to comment on this.
Trump says we have no cards but we do. Ford played one a few months ago that resulted in a meeting with Ford, LeBlanc and Lutnick. All we got out of that meeting was Ford saying that Lutnick gave a masterclass in tariffs, but the specifics were just what Lutnick had been saying since December. It was „elbows down“ after that.
Was the message to Ford that we will work something out or was it some kind of threat? Even with the increase in steel and aluminum tariffs to 50% it has just been delays and stalling tactics in our retaliation. If talks are going well, why hike our tariffs while leaving the UK tariffs at 25% because the US and UK were still talking when the tariffs went up.
The Canadian Ambassador to the US, who is now leading trade talks, told the media a couple of weeks ago that Canada still aimed to have all tariffs removed, but that same week, Carney was calling business leaders asking what kind of tariff they could live with.
When Trump cancelled talks over the DST, news leaked out that, up until that point, trade talks were moving swiftly. If they are moving swiftly, and they have been talking for months, what exactly is on the table? Is this just about steel, aluminium and autos? What else is on the table?
Trump keeps talking about supply management, we just passed legislation making it much more difficult to negotiate on that, yet there are no new threats…are we discussing that or not?
Right now, most CUSMA complaint goods are tariff free. Are those items on the table or not?
Carney called auto CEOs this week to update them on trade talks but all we heard out of that was the Auto CEOs wanting the EV mandate lifted.
We don’t want to negotiate in public but Canadians don’t even know what is being discussed and what we are being told publicly does not match what the government appears to be saying privately to CEOs and business leaders.
edit: a word
It’s just caving in to Trump’s bullying. If he gets an inch, his next demand will be a mile.
I would have announced an increase to the DST as a starting poi6for talks.
The DST is still the law of the land. It can be reimplemented any time. Let’s see how the whole deal goes down and then make necessary adjustments if Trump breaks it again or we can’t get something decent.
Fold to what? We aren’t losing anything. The US has already lost hundreds of billions of dollars of trade to Canada in just the last 2 weeks.