Warum Labour Großbritannien sagt, sie soll mehr Kinder haben
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Warum Labour Großbritannien sagt, sie soll mehr Kinder haben
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/natalism-birth-rate-fg8dr7vxq?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Reddit#Echobox=1751304374
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Bridget Phillipson’s argument is couched in the language of personal choice, but the thrust is clear. Young people should have more children.
The education secretary has gone where Sir Keir Starmer and other senior figures in the Labour Party have refused to tread, saying that Britain needs to deal with “our plummeting birth rate”.
The figures are stark. According to official figures, 1.44 children are being born per woman, down 21% in a decade. In some parts of the country it has slumped to 1.14 and led to the closure of primary schools.
Few others have dared to enter this discussion. Nigel Farage, the leader of Reform UK, said earlier this year that there needs to be a “complete 180 degree shift in attitudes”. He has suggested that there need to be more generous tax breaks for married people and that the two-child benefit limit needs to be scrapped
Housing and cost of groceries should be focussed on then
Yes the UK would be happier and wealthier long term if the birth rate went up
But it does feel more than a little stupid to heat them say this ***after*** them whining abiut the „dangers and harms“ of immigration
At this point they are explicitly saying „more white babies less brown people please“ 😒
I mean to be fair they’re not directly telling people to have more children, they’re acknowledging the low birth rate and pointing to the measures they’ve taken to make it easier to raise kids, such as expansion of free childcare.
Shouldn’t all the countries besides America worry less about the birth rate lowering? Americans will continue to flee to other countries and can help out the labor forces when they do. Countries always freak out about the birth rate lowering but only because they care about the labor force. America should be the only country that worries about this but they’ll ban abortion nationwide and enpower rapists solve their problem with the labor force
Kids ain’t happening because people have no money and no free time.
please have more kids so we have more people to sell things to! Please! The population must increase! we’re already harvesting your economic value at max! We need more of you!
People will have more children when the circumstances for having more children are right. For instance hero of the left Trudeau saw a massive price in renting and housing prices in Canada while boosting immigration. People will have less children in those circumstances. There are people who will never have children while supporting Trudeau and never understand how he affected their lives for instance. I know them. I grew up with them. I’ve read all their comments on facebook about housing etc while being in their 40’s with a long term partner and never having kids and they never make the connection.
You need to have more kids but we will do nothing to help like provide affordable housing and nationalise essential utilities among other measures to help with the cost of living because that will look too much like socialism to the right wing voters we’re trying so hard to pander to.
Didn’t start a family because it took me until I was 38 to get a house and that was through inheritance
Please have more kids so we can have workers to keep us rich!
Every Western nation: „Lets make cost of living spiral out of control, with unchecked housing costs, no climate initiatives, gut healthcare, education and social safety nets!“
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„Why arent people having children?!“
Paywalled.
We as society should focus on making sure that it’s easy to have and support children for people who want to have them. Rather then try to force people to have children who don’t want to have them.
* Part time work, so parents both have time with their children
* Free daycare,
* Free education, don’t make people start their adult life with an dept.
* Affordable and available housing for younger people. Not just couples, it’s harder to get an partner when living with your parents.
* Affordable life in general. People need an decent amount of money left at the end of the month in order to afford children.
… because they’re going to make childcare affordable or even free for new parents right? …right?
My above-average salary in a low cost of living area is barely enough to get by and afford some luxuries. Aye sure, I’ll have kids in this pokey flat with radgies for neighbours, that’ll go well.
First, where is my state-mandated girlfriend? Then we’ll talk.
To bring them into what? A fucked planet, war, political turmoil that doesn’t believe in actual science, resource wars in the next 20-40 years, a dried up job market due to AI and other technologies, mass migration when the planet becomes too hot to inhabit a good percentage of it.. What’s even the point in having kids if the future’s even bleaker than the present?
The only way to get people to have kids is for the incentive to have kids to be there and for the barriers in the way of having kids to be torn down.
Most people don’t want to have kids until they’re in a stable position to do so.
It’s not that complicated, stop trying to cater to rich people and start catering to the common people as you’re supposed to and you’ll get more kids.
I can’t afford even a single child and doubt I will ever be able to.
Hang on. Am I misremembering or did they u-turn on scrapping the two child benefit cap.
All the cash goes to the few, so nobody can afford kids and they are making it all worse, going after the poorest like the greedy Christmas ghost of a long dead Tory.
I’m sick of hearing their pish to be honest.
Stop making it fucking impossible to survive on a normal salary then. People have kids when they can afford housing and childcare. Cut immigration drastically, build more houses, and help working families with childcare support. I know many people (usually women) who say there’s literally no point working as all it would do is cover childcare costs.
1990s to 2010s: Don’t have kids if you can’t afford them!
2020s: Wait, not like that.
Sure. Find me someone. I make enough money. I’m waiting.
And here I was thinking the name was about unions and stuff.
Yeah, well you might want to fix the capitalist hellscape first. Let us know what your plans for that are.
Kids happen when it’s economicslly viable to do so.
Farmers back in the day had tons of kids to have more help on the farm. Economics.
People who have lots of kids today make enough money for there to usually be one breadwinner who is wealthy.
My grandparents generation you could have a single hard working parent with a manufacturing job buy a home, own a car, go on vacations, have 5 kids, and have a second family on the other side of town.
Now a person in this position had their spouse working full time and they only have 2 kids while renting and owning old fixed up cars.
Will not work no country found a solution to falling birth rate. What ever you think the solution is, there is a country that doesn’t have that problem but also has population decline.
One does not simply tell people to have kids.
One needs to create the necessary support structure, incentives, a stable, safe, inclusive and empathic environment, for kids to live, learn and prosper and adults to be able to support their families not only financially, but also emotionally.
No? I guess no kids then.
With no affordable housing and the cost of living on the up and up, plus wages not being increased to actually match up to the cost of living, it’s no wonder we aren’t having children. We can’t bloody afford to.
Politicians are so patronising, they’ve got no idea. And I’m not even from the UK (although I’m from an equally expensive country with similar, if not worse, issues).