„The DOJ memo says that the federal government will pursue denaturalization cases via civil litigation — an especially concerning move, said Cassandra Robertson, a law professor at Case Western Reserve University.
In civil proceedings, any individual subject to denaturalization is not entitled to an attorney, Robertson said; there is also a lower burden of proof for the government to reach, and it is far easier and faster to reach a conclusion in these cases.“
No-Mushroom5934 on
That didn’t take long at all.
Since birthright citizenship is no longer a guarantee- how long do we think before someone who says something trump doesn’t like becomes stateless?
whooo_me on
~~We’re going after the criminals!~~
~~We’re going after the illegal immigrants!~~
We’re going after the (cough, non-white) birthright citizens!
CaptainLawyerDude on
Overseas prisons with zero oversight.
Swamp gulags.
Faceless federal stooges making arrests.
Revoking citizenship on a whim.
Desperate times are here, people.
mkt853 on
Can this be used by the next Democratic president to remove certain prominent conservative talking heads/propagandists?
TubeframeMR2 on
Elon you better lawyer up.
BTRCguy on
>Department leadership is directing its attorneys to prioritize denaturalization in cases involving naturalized citizens who commit certain crimes — and giving district attorneys wider discretion on when to pursue this tactic, according to [a June 11 memo](https://www.justice.gov/civil/media/1404046/dl?inline) published online.
Waiting for the Lèse-majesté Act of 2025…
Cabezone on
They can then claim your children are not USA citizens after they get the Supreme Court to come up with some more king George bullshit reason why birthright citizenship doesn’t exist.
Socratic_Method_729 on
Being stateless means you can’t even travel anymore. No country will recognize you as a person. You’re locked in wherever territory you’re at. No police protection, no human rights. It’s scary because if you’re murdered I’m not even certain you’d qualify as a victim.
Lonely_Refuse4988 on
Putin must be smiling! His little puppet asset Donald is enacting his playbook for authoritarian takeover! 🤷♂️💩🤡🐘
UnfairLetter6166 on
Wow both sides right guys?
SquashDue502 on
Just a reminder that the article states this was used heavily under McCarthyism. You know, that embarrassing period of the 1940s where we had no idea what was going on and were running around blindly calling everyone a communist. Because that went great. History books recorded that one real well.
BadAtExisting on
> Hans von Spakovsky, with the conservative Heritage Foundation, supports the DOJ’s denaturalization efforts. „I do not understand how anyone could possibly be opposed to the Justice Department taking such action to protect the nation from obvious predators, criminals, and terrorists.“
I do not trust the current US Justice Dept. I trust even less the Heritage Foundation
OpenImagination9 on
The karmic bitch-slap for the “Latinos for Trump” and the “I’m going to withhold my vote in protest” crowds came very quickly.
User4C4C4C on
They will eventually use it to threaten people who have done nothing wrong.
Elmer_Whip on
It’s time to metaphorically drag these people out of the house by their hair.
AsamaMaru on
What the fuck country am I living in now? This surely isn’t the United States.
homesickalien337 on
Meanwhile Americans after decades of backsliding into fascism:
Gee I dunno guys I think maybe we might be headed the wrong direction if we don’t do something
Uberslaughter on
MAGAs bout to learn the meaning of “First they came for” since they never cared to read it
Pure-Candidate-8231 on
Therefore one can easily lose citizenship, then is here in US illegally, then El Salvador Mega Prision.
Translation: Any US citizen can be sent to El Salvador Prison
normalizeequality0 on
GENERAL STRIKE 🪧 The 1% *ONLY* want our LABOR. Money is the only language they speak
swallowedbymonsters on
Flat out despicable administration
squatchsax on
Yep, we sure were overreacting to the threats of P2025! /s
Ecstatic_Cloud_2537 on
Notice the example, they are manufacturing consent. The first one is a pedo, the absolute worst the world can offer. Also, he conveniently ticks the culture warriors’ boxes, using “they and them pronouns.” “Look at the types of horrible people we are getting rid of. Of course the American people support getting rid of pedos!” But then they’ll go after what is more vague, and before you know it make good on the far right’s desire to strip Zohran Mamdani of his citizenship.
No_End_273 on
This plus no more birthright citizenship? So who actually is a citizen then? Net worth minimum?
dingusmingus2222 on
Border Wall Construction and Border Security Facilities Improvements -$50 billion
State Border Security Reimbursement -$12 billion
U.S. Customs and Border Protection Personnel and Vehicles -$8 billion
U.S. Customs and Border Protection Technology, National Vetting Center, and Other Border Security Enhancements -$6 billion
Security, Planning, and Other Costs Related to 2026 FIFA World Cup and 2028 Olympics -$2 billion
Homeland Security Grants and Reimbursements to State and Local Jurisdictions -$1 billion
Subtotal, Homeland Security Committee -$79 billion (-$120 billion if permanent)
At this point, Democratic states such as California should attempt to break away from the States as a warning to the current fascist trend. If those in red states want a dictatorship, enjoy that without the funding of rich Democratic states.
spazz720 on
>At least one person has already been denaturalized in recent weeks. On June 13, a judge ordered the revocation of the citizenship of Elliott Duke, who uses they/them pronouns. Duke is an American military veteran originally from the U.K. who was convicted for distributing child sexual abuse material — something they later admitted they were doing prior to becoming a U.S. citizen.
Kujen on
Just like illegal immigrants and “only going after the criminal” ones…they will expand this to people with no criminal history. This will be used on their political rivals. They’re desperate to strip Zohran Madmani of his citizenship and deport him. They’re that afraid of him.
Nadmania on
Start with Melania!!
LadyTalah on
My spouse is a military veteran, the child of two military veterans, but at the time, his father was only a resident of the US, and a citizen of the UK. I cannot fucking *believe* that he, or anyone else in a similar boat, is suddenly up in the air after his entire fucking life.
Fuck this administration, and fuck anyone who supports it.
Anti_shill_cannon on
Whole republican project is just gross and crass.
ketchupbreakfest on
In 1933, Germany used the „Reich Citizenship Law“ to strip Jewish Germans of their citizenship. The parallels between this government and that government become more and more prevalent with each passing day
Mafew1987 on
Next Dem president should deport the Jan 6er’s.
gerryf19 on
This is the modern version of the beginning of the Holocaust. First step: pick a scapegoat. Second: dehumanize. Third: imprison and eliminate.
I hate going „Nazi“ but what the hell is wrong if with the people?
Evil_Weevill on
Huh… I’m sure they won’t use this power to attack their political enemies and deport people who might vote against them…
AdHopeful3801 on
The DOJ Civil Rights Division used to be the division that pursued people who violated the civil rights of Americans.
Now, it is the division that violates the civil rights of Americans.
The party of Orwell, ladies and gentlemen.
jackcviers on
Can anybody on the conservative side explain to me how anyone at all is a citizen if birthright citizenship isn’t guaranteed? It’s just there until the government decides to remove it?
livefromheaven on
Godspeed Latinos for Trump 😵💫
Wild-Zombie-8730 on
The first Lady should be the first deported
casadega873 on
So just a matter of time until they revoke citizenship from those who didn’t vote for him, I.e. Democrats, and independents.
RealPersonResponds on
Shame they can’t prioritize things like domestic terrorism or Nationwide cyber security threats and scams or even missing children… but I guess when you’re an Administration who hates everyone who’s not white this is what you do.
Am_Deer on
But they only wanted to get rid of criminals? I’m starting to think they were just fear mongers. /s
cCowgirl on
Fuck this fucking Fourth Reich speed run
freexanarchy on
Do Elon first
AlliedR2 on
Get rid of the „undocumented criminals“ without due process morphs into get rid of the „undocumented people“ without due process morphs into get rid of the „Naturalized citizen criminals“ without due process will morph into get rid of the Naturalized citizens“ without due process will morph into get rid of the „citizen criminals“ without due process which will, of course, morph into get rid of the citizens without due process. With a clear pass from the Supreme Court trump can start deporting people who disagree with him or run against him because he feels it is best for the country, and therefore a presidential act for which he has immunity. There will be no opposition because the opposition will be deported in the name of what is ‚best‘ for the United States of Trump.
volanger on
They are 100% doing this to stop Mamdani
Roklam on
So basically now 25M Citizens can’t trust the Country they’ve literally Pledged Allegiance to…
**K**
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„The DOJ memo says that the federal government will pursue denaturalization cases via civil litigation — an especially concerning move, said Cassandra Robertson, a law professor at Case Western Reserve University.
In civil proceedings, any individual subject to denaturalization is not entitled to an attorney, Robertson said; there is also a lower burden of proof for the government to reach, and it is far easier and faster to reach a conclusion in these cases.“
That didn’t take long at all.
Since birthright citizenship is no longer a guarantee- how long do we think before someone who says something trump doesn’t like becomes stateless?
~~We’re going after the criminals!~~
~~We’re going after the illegal immigrants!~~
We’re going after the (cough, non-white) birthright citizens!
Overseas prisons with zero oversight.
Swamp gulags.
Faceless federal stooges making arrests.
Revoking citizenship on a whim.
Desperate times are here, people.
Can this be used by the next Democratic president to remove certain prominent conservative talking heads/propagandists?
Elon you better lawyer up.
>Department leadership is directing its attorneys to prioritize denaturalization in cases involving naturalized citizens who commit certain crimes — and giving district attorneys wider discretion on when to pursue this tactic, according to [a June 11 memo](https://www.justice.gov/civil/media/1404046/dl?inline) published online.
Waiting for the Lèse-majesté Act of 2025…
They can then claim your children are not USA citizens after they get the Supreme Court to come up with some more king George bullshit reason why birthright citizenship doesn’t exist.
Being stateless means you can’t even travel anymore. No country will recognize you as a person. You’re locked in wherever territory you’re at. No police protection, no human rights. It’s scary because if you’re murdered I’m not even certain you’d qualify as a victim.
Putin must be smiling! His little puppet asset Donald is enacting his playbook for authoritarian takeover! 🤷♂️💩🤡🐘
Wow both sides right guys?
Just a reminder that the article states this was used heavily under McCarthyism. You know, that embarrassing period of the 1940s where we had no idea what was going on and were running around blindly calling everyone a communist. Because that went great. History books recorded that one real well.
> Hans von Spakovsky, with the conservative Heritage Foundation, supports the DOJ’s denaturalization efforts. „I do not understand how anyone could possibly be opposed to the Justice Department taking such action to protect the nation from obvious predators, criminals, and terrorists.“
I do not trust the current US Justice Dept. I trust even less the Heritage Foundation
The karmic bitch-slap for the “Latinos for Trump” and the “I’m going to withhold my vote in protest” crowds came very quickly.
They will eventually use it to threaten people who have done nothing wrong.
It’s time to metaphorically drag these people out of the house by their hair.
What the fuck country am I living in now? This surely isn’t the United States.
Meanwhile Americans after decades of backsliding into fascism:
Gee I dunno guys I think maybe we might be headed the wrong direction if we don’t do something
MAGAs bout to learn the meaning of “First they came for” since they never cared to read it
Therefore one can easily lose citizenship, then is here in US illegally, then El Salvador Mega Prision.
Translation: Any US citizen can be sent to El Salvador Prison
GENERAL STRIKE 🪧 The 1% *ONLY* want our LABOR. Money is the only language they speak
Flat out despicable administration
Yep, we sure were overreacting to the threats of P2025! /s
Notice the example, they are manufacturing consent. The first one is a pedo, the absolute worst the world can offer. Also, he conveniently ticks the culture warriors’ boxes, using “they and them pronouns.” “Look at the types of horrible people we are getting rid of. Of course the American people support getting rid of pedos!” But then they’ll go after what is more vague, and before you know it make good on the far right’s desire to strip Zohran Mamdani of his citizenship.
This plus no more birthright citizenship? So who actually is a citizen then? Net worth minimum?
Border Wall Construction and Border Security Facilities Improvements -$50 billion
State Border Security Reimbursement -$12 billion
U.S. Customs and Border Protection Personnel and Vehicles -$8 billion
U.S. Customs and Border Protection Technology, National Vetting Center, and Other Border Security Enhancements -$6 billion
Security, Planning, and Other Costs Related to 2026 FIFA World Cup and 2028 Olympics -$2 billion
Homeland Security Grants and Reimbursements to State and Local Jurisdictions -$1 billion
Subtotal, Homeland Security Committee -$79 billion (-$120 billion if permanent)
[https://www.crfb.org/blogs/breaking-down-one-big-beautiful-bill](https://www.crfb.org/blogs/breaking-down-one-big-beautiful-bill)
DOGE my ass.
At this point, Democratic states such as California should attempt to break away from the States as a warning to the current fascist trend. If those in red states want a dictatorship, enjoy that without the funding of rich Democratic states.
>At least one person has already been denaturalized in recent weeks. On June 13, a judge ordered the revocation of the citizenship of Elliott Duke, who uses they/them pronouns. Duke is an American military veteran originally from the U.K. who was convicted for distributing child sexual abuse material — something they later admitted they were doing prior to becoming a U.S. citizen.
Just like illegal immigrants and “only going after the criminal” ones…they will expand this to people with no criminal history. This will be used on their political rivals. They’re desperate to strip Zohran Madmani of his citizenship and deport him. They’re that afraid of him.
Start with Melania!!
My spouse is a military veteran, the child of two military veterans, but at the time, his father was only a resident of the US, and a citizen of the UK. I cannot fucking *believe* that he, or anyone else in a similar boat, is suddenly up in the air after his entire fucking life.
Fuck this administration, and fuck anyone who supports it.
Whole republican project is just gross and crass.
In 1933, Germany used the „Reich Citizenship Law“ to strip Jewish Germans of their citizenship. The parallels between this government and that government become more and more prevalent with each passing day
Next Dem president should deport the Jan 6er’s.
This is the modern version of the beginning of the Holocaust. First step: pick a scapegoat. Second: dehumanize. Third: imprison and eliminate.
I hate going „Nazi“ but what the hell is wrong if with the people?
Huh… I’m sure they won’t use this power to attack their political enemies and deport people who might vote against them…
The DOJ Civil Rights Division used to be the division that pursued people who violated the civil rights of Americans.
Now, it is the division that violates the civil rights of Americans.
The party of Orwell, ladies and gentlemen.
Can anybody on the conservative side explain to me how anyone at all is a citizen if birthright citizenship isn’t guaranteed? It’s just there until the government decides to remove it?
Godspeed Latinos for Trump 😵💫
The first Lady should be the first deported
So just a matter of time until they revoke citizenship from those who didn’t vote for him, I.e. Democrats, and independents.
Shame they can’t prioritize things like domestic terrorism or Nationwide cyber security threats and scams or even missing children… but I guess when you’re an Administration who hates everyone who’s not white this is what you do.
But they only wanted to get rid of criminals? I’m starting to think they were just fear mongers. /s
Fuck this fucking Fourth Reich speed run
Do Elon first
Get rid of the „undocumented criminals“ without due process morphs into get rid of the „undocumented people“ without due process morphs into get rid of the „Naturalized citizen criminals“ without due process will morph into get rid of the Naturalized citizens“ without due process will morph into get rid of the „citizen criminals“ without due process which will, of course, morph into get rid of the citizens without due process. With a clear pass from the Supreme Court trump can start deporting people who disagree with him or run against him because he feels it is best for the country, and therefore a presidential act for which he has immunity. There will be no opposition because the opposition will be deported in the name of what is ‚best‘ for the United States of Trump.
They are 100% doing this to stop Mamdani
So basically now 25M Citizens can’t trust the Country they’ve literally Pledged Allegiance to…
**K**